So Just to recap:
Other posters think:
Other posters think:
- Hawks got rid of lewis and mitchell too soon, too cheaply, made a balls up because they could still be contending, only intended to get rid of one
- Hawks have lots of old slow players and should be replacing them as quickly as possible (except michell and Lewis in point 1)
- Hawks shouldn't try to speed up the process: no other team has ever rebuild under seven years so why should they (its borderline unfair)
- Clarko's a temperamantal loose cannon, and somehow has been a great coach but its really the assistants who are now departed who were the real brains
- Hawthorns players dont rate, they were in the right place at the right time ( or three times to be exact) However once a player leaves he has been an absolute champion and in some cases tin the top 50 in the last 25 years
- They paid too much for omeara in picks swaps, and vickery in contract value, even more so because they arent instantly taking us to top four status which was our assessment wrongly last year
- Its even more embarrassing because bigfooty is eagerly waiting the pick number of the one traded to st kilda, no doubt the poor kid drafted will be scrutinised every week by people with nothing better to do
- The club is delusional, the supporters are delusional, or they have abandoned already, bandwaggoners that they are
- Just because they have been quite successful, it doesnt mean the club will continue this way. didnt they go bust last time they were this successful?
- Most other organizations continue to be successful, but with hawthorn the success means they are closer to folding altogether
Mitchell is still providing output, so they'd probably be better with him than without.
I reckon the Lewis trade to Melbourne was lose-lose so far. Might change if the Dees make the finals and really need Lewis' experience.
Didn't get enough back for Hill either, he's probably the biggest loss for the club.
I seriously think the major problem has been with messaging from the club. Clarko continually said they were contenders early in the season, many supporters (and the odds were saying the same thing). The club and supporters are realising some of their players are pretty ordinary on the front-line.
Vickery was a mistake, but despite the whole AFL world telling Hawthorn this, supporters and the club were adamant he would turn it around if he just came to Hawthorn. O'Meara has a bung knee, again, Hawthorn fans have insisted this will miraculously heal because of the wonder-juice at Hawthorn. Jury is out on this, but again, the messaging has been poor, bringing him back only for him to be out seemingly indefinitely.
It's not so much the outcomes as the head-in-the-sand approach of Hawthorn as a club and as a group of supporters, it's a serious delusion and the truth is slowly dawning on them than the glory days are over. The biggest risk is if the club goes into the next trade period still believing their own hype. No club has been successful without good draftees and the likelihood of drafting good players increases as you get earlier in the draft.

