Hawthorn Reserves Coach 1979?

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Very specific query sorry - looking for who coached Hawthorn's reserves in 1979. The club / historian doesn't have the info, so I'm hoping one of the clever sleuths on here might find it.

According to the club, John O'Mahony finished coaching in 1978 and Des Meagher took over in 1980, but they don't know who did it in 1979.

 

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If anyone is interested - these are the others I've found

1925    Elliman, Dave
1926    Carbarns, Les
1927    Unknown
1928    Carbarns, Les
1929    Carbarns, Les
1930    Carbarns, Les
1931    Unknown
1932    Unknown
1933    Utting, Ern
1934    Unknown
1935    Utting, Ern
1936    Stewart, Stuart
1937    Stewart, Stuart
1938    Stewart, Stuart
1939    McAlpine, Ivan
1940    Byrne, Tom
1941    Murphy, Leo
1943    Utting, Ern
1944    Unknown
1945    Unknown
1946    Unknown
1947    Carmody, Jack
1948    Carmody, Jack
1949    Carmody, Jack
1950    Hale, Jack
1951    Hale, Jack
1952    Edmonds, Horace S.
1953    Edmonds, Horace S.
1954    Edmonds, Horace S.
1955    Edmonds, Horace S.
1956    Edmonds, Horace S.
1957    Edmonds, Horace S.
1958    Edmonds, Horace S.
1959    Edmonds, Horace S.
1960    Edmonds, Horace S.
1961    O'Brien, Phil
1962    O'Brien, Phil
1963    Winneke, John
1964    McArthur, John
1965    O'Donohue, Peter
1966    Considine, Maurice
1967    Considine, Maurice
1968    Considine, Maurice
1969    Considine, Maurice
1970    Considine, Maurice
1971    Considine, Maurice
1972    Simmonds, Roy
1973    Simmonds, Roy
1974    Parkin, David
1975    O'Mahony, John
1976    Parkin, David
1977    O'Mahony, John
1978    O'Mahony, John
1979    Unknown
1980    Meagher, Des
1981    Meagher, Des
1982    Meagher, Des
1983    Meagher, Des
1984    Meagher, Des
1985    Meagher, Des
1986    Meagher, Des
1987    Meagher, Des
1988    Meagher, Des
1989    Meagher, Des
1990    Meagher, Des
1991    Meagher, Des
1992    Meagher, Des
1993    Meagher, Des
1994    Rowlings, Barry
1995    Rowlings, Barry
1996    German, Peter
1997    German, Peter
1998    German, Peter
1999    German, Peter
2000    McDonald, Donald
2001    McDonald, Donald
2002    McDonald, Donald
2003    Liberatore, Tony
2004    Collins, Andrew
2005    Collins, Andrew
2006    Christensen, Damien
2007    Christensen, Damien
2008    Mitchell, Barry
2009    Bolton, Brendan
2010    Bolton, Brendan
2011    Carroll, Damian
2012    Carroll, Damian
2013    Carroll, Damian
2014    Bello, Marco
2015    Bello, Marco
2016    Bello, Marco
2017    Newman, Chris
2018    Newman, Chris
2019    Bailey, Max

 

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Very specific query sorry - looking for who coached Hawthorn's reserves in 1979. The club / historian doesn't have the info, so I'm hoping one of the clever sleuths on here might find it.

According to the club, John O'Mahony finished coaching in 1978 and Des Meagher took over in 1980, but they don't know who did it in 1979.

According to report of a pre-season practice match Hawthorn v Richmond in The Age, 19 March 1979 p29 the coach was Ross Smith (ex St Kilda).

 

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You absolute legend. Thanks!

Don't suppose you could be enticed to have a look for the other Unknowns?
1927, 31, 32, 34, 44, 45, 46?

 

[35Daicos]

You absolute legend. Thanks!

Don't suppose you could be enticed to have a look for the other Unknowns?
1927, 31, 32, 34, 44, 45, 46?

Hope it's okay for me to help out!

This says Ern Utting was reappointed for the job in 1935, and that would be his third year in a row.: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/204276711

Les. Carbarns was reappointed in 1931: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/205832213

This has Carbarns as captain and coach from 1926-1931: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/189120711

 

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Brilliant gets - thanks heaps!

So that leaves 32, and 44-46.

Those articles confirm '32 wasn't Utting or Carbarns... going to be tricky to find.

Thanks again. I've been looking for these for a while, should have posted on here ages ago, obviously!

 

[35Daicos]

Brilliant gets - thanks heaps!

So that leaves 32, and 44-46.

Those articles confirm '32 wasn't Utting or Carbarns... going to be tricky to find.

Thanks again. I've been looking for these for a while, should have posted on here ages ago, obviously!

Nothing has shown up so far for 1932, and I haven't tried looking yet for 1944-46.

 

[the croucher]

Nothing has shown up so far for 1932, and I haven't tried looking yet for 1944-46.

There is more than one Hawthorn suburban paper on Trove for 1914-18 period, but might be a while before the period of this thread's interest becomes available online.

Suspect it could come down to a visit to SLV to check micro-film copies.

 

[35Daicos]

Brilliant gets - thanks heaps!

So that leaves 32, and 44-46.

Those articles confirm '32 wasn't Utting or Carbarns... going to be tricky to find.

Thanks again. I've been looking for these for a while, should have posted on here ages ago, obviously!

Looks like Pat Keary for 1932: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/205094735


It must have been around that year (or more likely the next) when he started as manager of the Hawthorn Seconds, a position he held for (at least) 25 years, and the Seconds B&F was named after him: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/22437717

I've had a decent look now and I'm not getting anywhere with the 40's! Surely something has to show up?!

 

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It looks like it was Alf Hurley for 1945: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/979828

This is most likely referring to Hurley being captain, but could it mean coach for 1944? Probably just captain, but worth looking into: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/11815216

This says he was appointed captain in 1944: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/206780050

Hurley was (again) appointed captain for 1946 (doesn't mention coaching but perhaps he did it again?): https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/22232679

So he had the coaching job in 1945, but still not sure on 1944 and 1946. I'd say it was pretty likely, since he was captain in those two years, but not at all proven at this stage.

 

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This is such great info - thanks again.

I clearly need some lessons in using smarter search parameters in trove.

 

[35Daicos]

If anyone is interested - these are the others I've found

1925    Elliman, Dave

I'm wondering if you've seen any of this? You have Dave Elliman doing the job in 1925 but he seems to have only done it in the latter part of the year: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/184839993 (14 Aug 1926)


: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/243770747 (15 May 1925)


I presume this is meant to be Eugene (Glynn), who played for Hawthorn in the VFA: https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL Tenant/Hawthorn/PDFs/VFA.pdf


Elliman got a permit to go from Hawthorn to Hawthorn Seconds in June 1925 (and didn't play for the senior team again), so perhaps he took over as coach some time after that?: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/155769527 (6 Jun 1925)

I haven't found anything about Glynn being replaced during 1925, but it seems to have happened.

 

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Interesting! Thanks for that.

 

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Anyone looking for a challenge... 1946 HFC Reserves coach still unknown.

 

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For want of better knowledge
I'd say it was Hurley

FARRANT RETURNS TO HAWTHORN - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - 12 Jun 1946

In the absence of Keith Shea, coach, who has influenza, and J. Bohan, captain, Hawthorn players trained under the supervision of ...

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[35Daicos]

I'm wondering if you've seen any of this? You have Dave Elliman doing the job in 1925 but he seems to have only done it in the latter part of the year: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/184839993 (14 Aug 1926)
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: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/243770747 (15 May 1925)
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I presume this is meant to be Eugene (Glynn), who played for Hawthorn in the VFA: https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL Tenant/Hawthorn/PDFs/VFA.pdf
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Elliman got a permit to go from Hawthorn to Hawthorn Seconds in June 1925 (and didn't play for the senior team again), so perhaps he took over as coach some time after that?: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/155769527 (6 Jun 1925)

I haven't found anything about Glynn being replaced during 1925, but it seems to have happened.

Interesting! Thanks for that.

I just noticed this: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2124472