Traded Hawthorn trade #30 to North Melbourne for #53, #70 and their 2020 R2 pick

[Thetrader15]

I doubt this is the end of it for us.

You'd hope there was something else at play here

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

Hawks future 1st alone would get pick 15 at best from the Suns in this draft.

Packaged with pick 11 this year, it may get 5 from swans or 6 from crows with something coming back later in either year.

I would prefer they try and get a second pick ahead of the Finn bid than try and trade up for one higher pick...

 

[Suma Magic]

Ports future first is worth more than the hawks future first.

Didn’t that only get pick 16 (and port had to add more to the deal to get that).

I’d guess early 20s is the best case scenario for the hawks future first.

 

[Two Planks]

I would prefer they try and get a second pick ahead of the Finn bid than try and trade up for one higher pick...

Port won't trade 12, 16 or 18.
Dogs won't trade 13
Doubt cats trade 14 or 17 for another future 1st (we already have 2)

Leaves Suns at 15 as the only possibilities.

Doubt Finn gets past 18

 

[The Filth Wizard]

So North have traded a future Rd 2 (26) 729pts, Rd 3 (50) 273pts & Rd 4 (73) 9pts for a Rd 2 (30) 629pts. Why would you do that? I guess North already have two first Rd selections in 2020 & maybe they anticipated that this 2020 Rd2 (26) pick will drift lower. Would that be the case? Even if this was the case the points would probably be even. They must have some compelling motivation.

I think you're bang on the money here.

End of the day we don't have the list spots to use 50 and 73 (we'll upgrade Zurhaar with our pick in the 80's) so those picks are dead to us anyway and with two first rounders next year and the draft rumoured to be fairly compromised up to our second we probably feel we're dropping a pick in the mid 30's next season for 30ish this season. And with 26/27/30/47 to play with there very well may be another move down the order.

 

[Crow till I die]

Id be happy enough if the hawks traded their pick 11 and 2020 1st for our pick 6. Still going to get a good player at 11 and have 3 x 1sts next year to go hard for a particular player that may be out of contract

 

[Suma Magic]

I guess hawks can only trade in a pick that they can use instantly. Otherwise a risk that the bid comes for their f/s. So this means that they might do their trade after they match a bid, but this won’t impact it as they can still bring in a second top 25 to go with the f/s.

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

Port won't trade 12, 16 or 18.
Dogs won't trade 13
Doubt cats trade 14 or 17 for another future 1st (we already have 2)

Leaves Suns at 15 as the only possibilities.

Doubt Finn gets past 18

Lots to play out yet.

 

[Slysh]

Id be happy enough if the hawks traded their pick 11 and 2020 1st for our pick 6. Still going to get a good player at 11 and have 3 x 1sts next year to go hard for a particular player that may be out of contract

I would be very upset if we did, i don't see any stand out players at 6 in this Draft.

decent chance that one of Kemp, Stephens, Robertson, McAsey is still available at 11. I want a 2nd top 20 pick if we are using our future first.

 

[Mitchell54]

Couldn't be happier about this trade.

 

[The Nostradamus]

hawks did well out of this. they definetly gained while for us it was a net result, we didnt lose or gain

hopefully we package 2 of our picks for 1 higher pick

 

[Blueeygrey]

Brady Rawlings pulled some pretty audacious and successful stunts like this for your lot.

Yes, he dragged us out of our conservative mire, it was a WC traders dream. Then he left and we gave all our picks away. Either way he was entertaining.

 

[TazHawk15]

I think the plan is to get two top 20 picks + Finn instead of trying to get inside the top 10.

Spot on.

 

[Vindicater]

Spot on.

2020 1st for #15 from Gold Coast?

 

[TazHawk15]

2020 1st for #15 from Gold Coast?

Could be.

I think the Hawks would be happy with two top 15 draft picks plus Finn, would be a nice haul I imagine.

 

[Slysh]

2020 1st for #15 from Gold Coast?

Yeah that is the pick i was hoping for.

If the Suns want to hold 15 i would be willing to look at 19 from Richmond as well depending on who is still available.

 

[Pykie]

53 and 70 were about to evaporate anyway.

We don’t have the list spots for them and couldn’t take them to the draft, we had to burn them.

Essentially it leaves our 2020 for #30, which with the 10+ academy/nga/fs next year I’d say it’s fairly even.

We obviously value that Gould, Rantall, Taylor, De Koning type group this year I’d say.

 

[Rob R]

2020 1st for #15 from Gold Coast?

Only reasonable option it seems. There doesnt seem to be anyone available past the first two worth enough that we would want to spend two first rounders to upgrade to pick 6 or 7.

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[The Nostradamus]

Anyone know how many senior list spots gc have available?

 

[La Dispute]

I think you're bang on the money here.

End of the day we don't have the list spots to use 50 and 73 (we'll upgrade Zurhaar with our pick in the 80's) so those picks are dead to us anyway and with two first rounders next year and the draft rumoured to be fairly compromised up to our second we probably feel we're dropping a pick in the mid 30's next season for 30ish this season. And with 26/27/30/47 to play with there very well may be another move down the order.

I’d say North are backing themselves to be Top 8 material next year so they’re looking to fast-track another second rounder by flipping a few useless picks to Hawthorn.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Rawlings is up to something with this one. As stated by a few posters already, the later picks were virtually useless for North anyway, so who cares about points differential with this one at the end of the day.

 

[Peel67skin]

Anyone know how many senior list spots gc have available?

Excluding Jack Martin, 5 spots. Including Jack Martin 4 spots.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Excluding Jack Martin, 5 spots. Including Jack Martin 4 spots.

Ok so 5 spots for gc

 

[Peel67skin]

Ok so 5 spots for gc

Could be drafting someone on pre season draft maybe Martin or Maybe not, going to let Carlton keep guessing for two more draft night and 1st pick of pre season draft. ( whether pass, call someone else or Jack Martin). Carlton need to allocated one senior spot for Martin not knowing what GCS do with PSD pick 1.

 

[Suma Magic]

Not sure why hawks fans think they can get pick 15 when pick 16 cost port more than their future first.

Adelaide would be happy to trade it for 23 I’d guess. Hard to see a club before that who would be keen.