Gralin
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But the round matters for perspective. If that list was our last 10 first round selections it paints a different picture.I said our first selections not what round they where drafted.
Howe, Lovell and O'Brien are still on the list with various chances to become as you called them good AFL contributors, you've written them off before the club has moved them on, too soon. You can say looking like a fail but you can't say categorically a fail.Howe - fail
O'Brien - fail
Hartung - fail
Burton - should pass
Lovell - (a few selections later) - fail
Hill - No longer with us
Schoey - Fail (premierships have nothing to do whether you're a good draft selection or not, plenty of average footballers get flags)
Grimley - Fail
Smith - Big pass
Hill may no longer be with us but you can't say he wasn't a pass
Nice to see you doing your best to add more fails in, you added in Lovell when you said first selections each year, then you add in another with putting both Dowler and Ellis in, plus adding a few more years when you don't feel like 10 made your point well enough.We can even go before 2008 if you like?
Dowler - fail
Thorp - fail
Ellis - fail
Rioli - big pass
I didn't say that, you asked for good AFL contributors we'd picked up not great players, Schoey has played over 100 games, played in two grand finals, won one, contributed to the team. You'd like more from him but he's given the club more than a lot of higher picks have at a lot of clubsYou can't say that just because a player plays in a flag it automatically makes them a great selection, if they don't play 100 games as our 1st selection in a National draft its a fail, how else can you make a case otherwise?
ah the old worst player to win an AFL premiership chestnutChris Dawes won a premiership
Sharrod Wellingham won a premiership
Trent West won a premiership
Steven Armstrong won a premiership
Matthew Bishop won a premiership
Toby Thurstan won a premiership
Are any of those good footballers?
guess what if you are on an AFL list playing in a premiership you are a good footballer. Doesn't mean better footballers don't miss out due to injury/being on the wrong team but to make the starting 22 of a flag winner isn't something you or I could do so yes they are good footballers.
You asked for a list of our first choices over the last 10 years, I gave you them, I didn't add in any other good picks we got out of those drafts, I didn't add in any of the players we traded in that pushed some of those first selections back, I gave you your list of 10 players
From those 10 players we got so far 3 Premiership players and 589 games played, it's not a bad return from 10 picks let alone the fact that 7 of them weren't first round picks.
Now it's your turn, pick a club to compare their first selections over the last 10 years to