Not sure it's as bad as the one you speak of, I'll have to harden up and at least walk it in the next few weeks and see what elevation and gradient info my garmin gives, me. Won't be attempting to run it, my knees don't appreciate it these days.Do you know what kind of grade (%) the hill is? There's an evil trail run called the Rollercoaster in the Dandenongs that has some ridiculous bits in it that barely anyone can run. The worst one is around 40%, which might not sound like much but is hard enough to walk up. I've never even tried to run it.