Heath Streak admits corruption offences, banned for eight years

[Freo Big Fella]

Heath Streak handed eight-year ban for corruption

Streak is understood to have facilitated approaches by a corruptor to people within teams he was coach at

www.espncricinfo.com

Former Zimbabwe captain Heath Streak has been banned for eight years after being charged with - and admitting to - five breaches of the ICC's anti-corruption code, including accepting a payment in bitcoins from a potential corruptor.

Streak, Zimbabwe's greatest fast bowler, had been under investigation for an extensive list of games through 2017 and 2018, during his post-playing career as a coach, from his time in international cricket - with Zimbabwe from 2016 to 2018 - as well as stints in T20 leagues including the IPL, the BPL and the Afghanistan Premier League (APL).

Crazy to contemplate - always gave off the vibe of being a genuinely honest toiler after the post 2000s collapse of Zimbabwe.

 

[Belnakor]

Crazy to contemplate - always gave off the vibe of being a genuinely honest toiler after the post 2000s collapse of Zimbabwe.

Yeah he did. His case is really bad because he is basically the guy who was vouching for the dodgy bloke. Without Streak, Shakib wouldn't have even been approached.

Another example of the haves/have nots in cricket. India is always going to be the hot bed for this kind of stuff.

I bet he is spewing he sold those bitcoins when he did by the way!

 

[Hamingja]

Another example of the haves/have nots in cricket. India is always going to be the hot bed for this kind of stuff.

Would be interesting to know how much Heath Streak earned throughout his career compared to say an Australian contemporary of a similiar ability / playing span, maybe a Jason Gillespie?

Although Streak played a fair bit of county cricket and obviously he was on the coaching gravy train too so he can't have been completely hard up.

 

[t_94]

If I had to list all the former international players I suspected of match fixing, Heath Streak would have been close to last on the list.

 

[Headless]

Upsetting. Always really enjoyed watching Streak.

 

[t_94]

Upsetting. Always really enjoyed watching Streak.

I really loved watching him and Tatenda Taibu stage rescue missions with the bat in the lower middle order. Both were very, very good cricketers.

Really like Zimbabwe cricket. It hasn’t been the same since about 2003 and I fear it will get worse when Taylor, Raza, Craig Ervine and Williams retire (which can’t be far away).

 

[Bedi]

Absolutely disgraceful he'd do something like this. You'd think prison time would be a more suitable charge than an 8 year ban

 

[mouncey2franklin]

Do you guys still believe these kinds of things are rare? Or the exception to the norm?

 

[iluvparis]

Do you guys still believe these kinds of things are rare? Or the exception to the norm?

Pretty common I would have thought given that I'd say 80% of global T20 games are basically held for the purposes of match fixing

 

[mouncey2franklin]

Pretty common I would have thought given that I'd say 80% of global T20 games are basically held for the purposes of match fixing

It is fair to say that you are more circumspect and logical about these kinds of things than the average sports fan.

What ever happened to blackcat ?

I remember back when Lance got done for doping, it was like BC was the only dude on the forum with his eyes open.

Everybody else wants to remain in fantasyland about what professional sports are all about, and what they entail.

 

[iluvparis]

It is fair to say that you are more circumspect and logical about these kinds of things than the average sports fan.

What ever happened to blackcat ?

I remember back when Lance got done for doping, it was like BC was the only dude on the forum with his eyes open.

Everybody else wants to remain in fantasyland about what professional sports are all about, and what they entail.

I think blackcat jumped the shark and went full QAnon crazy

 

[blackcat]

It is fair to say that you are more circumspect and logical about these kinds of things than the average sports fan.

What ever happened to blackcat ?

I remember back when Lance got done for doping, it was like BC was the only dude on the forum with his eyes open.

Everybody else wants to remain in fantasyland about what professional sports are all about, and what they entail.

The largest <tell> poker metaphor tell
was when Steve Waugh was asked at a desk press conference , about the late Hansie Cronje

Tugga says words2effect "let's be circumspect , allow the facts to play out"

off-the-record to his teammates , associates , trusted journo's[offtherecord] &wife , Tugga is surely more frank and knew $h!t was occurring

re: 2020
you have part of the story correct, and iluvparis part incorrect

reconcile BetFAIR and economics and BCCI and Freakonomics ....

ICU and BCCI have access to most of the internet betting agencies ledgers , they can spot most corruption a mile off with algorithms

Do a SP telephone bookie OVER qua o.v.e.r. you will do so at your own peril

So it would be infinitesimal

cui bono ?

Who gets most revenue from cricket ? CUB/large national breweries , who makes most money from UFC ? Not Joe Rogan or Emirati sovereign fund or Fertitta brothers or pubs or casinos or Colin McGregor or Jon Jones ,

Budweiser , by far , even in the era of craft-beer and a ten bucks IPA , AnheuserBusch-Budweiser

But BCCI keep on programming more and more and more and more and more T20 cos they CAN
and the revenue COMPELS them to , it is __d.e.t.e.r.m.i.n.e.d.__ by the raw , the raw rupees



RussellEbertHandball

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

The largest <tell> poker metaphor tell
was when Steve Waugh was asked at a desk press conference , about the late Hansie Cronje

Tugga says words2effect "let's be circumspect , allow the facts to play out"

off-the-record to his teammates , associates , trusted journo's[offtherecord] &wife , Tugga is surely more frank and knew $h!t was occurring

re: 2020
you have part of the story correct, and iluvparis part incorrect

reconcile BetFAIR and economics and BCCI and Freakonomics ....

ICU and BCCI have access to most of the internet betting agencies ledgers , they can spot most corruption a mile off with algorithms

Do a SP telephone bookie OVER qua o.v.e.r. you will do so at your own peril

So it would be infinitesimal

Who gets most revenue from cricket ? CUB/large national breweries , who makes most money from UFC ? Not Joe Rogan or Emirati sovereign fund or Fertitta brothers or pubs or casinos or Colin McGregor or Jon Jones ,

Budweiser , by far , even in the era of craft-beer and a ten bucks IPA , AnheuserBusch-Budweiser

RussellEbertHandball

Sounds like a bit of microdosing to use a PED analogy by Heath Streak rather than blatant full on PED use.

A little bit of cheating can't hurt rather than blatant cheat, everyone is dong this sort of s**t, would have been his thinking, and many others, I suspect.

 

[blackcat]

Sounds like a bit of microdosing to use a PED analogy by Heath Streak rather than blatant full on PED use.

A little bit of cheating can't hurt rather than blatant cheat, everyone is dong this sort of sh*t, would have been his thinking, and many others, I suspect.

But the micro-fixing , the authorities have access to the (reams of) data and have multiple data inspection method(s) to analyse a s.u.s.p.i.c.i.o.u.s no-ball and no-balls and trends , plus access to bank-accounts , bot-coin wallets , vodafone records
As Freakonomics would write -

the bounty must exceed the risk, but there are multiple actions at the whims of the paymasters

remember when they got some County Cricket Pakistani bowlers for micro fixing about 15 years back , impoverished cricketers from Pakistan backwaters can be solved relatively simply

 

[blackcat]

I think blackcat jumped the shark and went full QAnon crazy

n.o.p.e

 

[blackcat]

I think blackcat jumped the shark and went full QAnon crazy

I think my record on RussiaGATE is unsurpassed wrt Australian media , I had it right wrt Pappadopoulos Ambassador greasy cheeks ruddy-nosed AleXander Downer

This is about 5 I's (five intelligence services anglophones US UK Canada Australia NZ) this is about ThucydidesTrap*
it is about China and red scare and the Putin/Moscow thing is mere displacement

*asterisk most overused gobbet in media in last 30 months

μ___ psychology definition for displacement qua d.i.s.p.l.a.c.e.m.e.n.t

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

But the micro-fixing , the authorities have access to the (teams of) data and have multiple data inspection method(s) to analyse a s.u.s.p.i.c.i.o.u.s no-ball and no-balls and trends , plus access to bank-accounts , bot-coin wallets , vodafone records
As Freakonomics would write -

the bounty must exceed the risk, but there are multiple actions at the whims of the paymasters

remember when they got some County Cricket Pakistani bowlers for micro fixing about 15 years back , impoverished cricketers from Pakistan backwaters can be solved relatively simply

Do you mean Mohammed Amir in 2010 at Lord's Test, the 18 year old fast bowler who toured Oz in 2009-10 bowled well in couple test he played in, was still 17 then and took 8 or 10 wickets?

Geoff Lawson who had coached Pakistan for a few years before the tour but was back in Oz after finishing up with Pakistan, told the story of him living in northern Pakistan and had to dodge the Taliban just to get to training to play cricket. He was one of seven or eight maybe 10 kids, think he was the youngest or second youngest.

He was offered £50,000 to bowl 2 no balls at a certain stage in a test at Lord's v England in 2010. That amount was more than his parents could earn in 25 years, combined.

His captain asked him to do it, Salman Butt as well as older bowler Mohammed Asif who was 28. Butt and Asif got a 10 year ban from all forms of cricket and Amir a 5 year ban from the ICC. But all 3 got jail time. Amir 6 months, only served 3 in a juvenile detention centre and the other 2 served about 2.5 years in jail all in the UK.

I don't remember how much Butt and Asif made out of the spot fixing and how wealthy they were, but Amir definitely fits the Freakonomics rule of thumb for risk and reward.

I just couldn't get outraged by what Amir did. Seriously 2 no balls in test cricket is meaningless. If people are that greedy to gamble on no balls and bookies want to offer odds on it, then stuff that, that is a first world privilege problem and bad luck if an 18 year old kid could set up his parents for the rest of their lives.

 

[blackcat]

Do you mean Mohammed Amir in 2010 at Lord's Test, the 18 year old fast bowler who toured Oz in 2009-10 bowled well in couple test he played in, was still 17 then and took 8 or 10 wickets?

Geoff Lawson who had coached Pakistan for a few years before the tour but was back in Oz after finishing up with Pakistan, told the story of him living in northern Pakistan and had to dodge the Taliban just to get to training to play cricket. He was one of seven or eight maybe 10 kids, think he was the youngest or second youngest.

He was offered £50,000 to bowl 2 no balls at a certain stage in a test at Lord's v England in 2010. That amount was more than his parents could earn in 25 years, combined.

His captain asked him to do it, Salman Butt as well as older bowler Mohammed Asif who was 28. Butt and Asif got a 10 year ban from all forms of cricket and Amir a 5 year ban from the ICC. But all 3 got jail time. Amir 6 months, only served 3 in a juvenile detention centre and the other 2 served about 2.5 years in jail all in the UK.

I don't remember how much Butt and Asif made out of the spot fixing and how wealthy they were, but Amir definitely fits the Freakonomics rule of thumb for risk and reward.

I just couldn't get outraged by what Amir did. Seriously 2 no balls in test cricket is meaningless. If people are that greedy to gamble on no balls and bookies want to offer odds on it, then stuff that, that is a first world privilege problem and bad luck if an 18 year old kid could set up his parents for the rest of their lives.

No just the County Cricket medium pacers who were either premier grade County Cricket or first division and/or playing League A matches, they were done over and served gaol in the UK for spot-fixing in the early part of the naughties

good Fauves song "Medium pacer"

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

No just the County Cricket medium pacers who were either premier grade County Cricket or first division and/or playing League A matches, they were done over and served gaol in the UK for spot-fixing in the early part of the naughties

good Fauves song "Medium pacer"

I'm struggling to remember who they were and who they played for. I know there was stuff happening before that 2010 test spot fixing, but I didn't realize those guys did jail time.

 

[blackcat]

Do you mean Mohammed Amir in 2010 at Lord's Test, the 18 year old fast bowler who toured Oz in 2009-10 bowled well in couple test he played in, was still 17 then and took 8 or 10 wickets?

Geoff Lawson who had coached Pakistan for a few years before the tour but was back in Oz after finishing up with Pakistan, told the story of him living in northern Pakistan and had to dodge the Taliban just to get to training to play cricket. He was one of seven or eight maybe 10 kids, think he was the youngest or second youngest.

He was offered £50,000 to bowl 2 no balls at a certain stage in a test at Lord's v England in 2010. That amount was more than his parents could earn in 25 years, combined.

His captain asked him to do it, Salman Butt as well as older bowler Mohammed Asif who was 28. Butt and Asif got a 10 year ban from all forms of cricket and Amir a 5 year ban from the ICC. But all 3 got jail time. Amir 6 months, only served 3 in a juvenile detention centre and the other 2 served about 2.5 years in jail all in the UK.

I don't remember how much Butt and Asif made out of the spot fixing and how wealthy they were, but Amir definitely fits the Freakonomics rule of thumb for risk and reward.

I just couldn't get outraged by what Amir did. Seriously 2 no balls in test cricket is meaningless. If people are that greedy to gamble on no balls and bookies want to offer odds on it, then stuff that, that is a first world privilege problem and bad luck if an 18 year old kid could set up his parents for the rest of their lives.

^ you may have relayed the anecdote correct and I m.a.y. be thinking of the same anecdote and transposing it to County cricket...

... like the optometrist is talking his way back from the atrocious press conference when he was national coach

#henryNOTaPOET
#WIlliAmSburRougHsCutUpteChNiQUe

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

^ you may have relayed the anecdote correct and I m.a.y. be thinking of the same anecdote and transposing it to County cricket...

... like the optometrist is talking his way back from the atrocious press conference when he was national coach

#henryNOTaPOET
#WIlliAmSburRougHsCutUpteChNiQUe

That might be it. There is only 1 Paki mention in county cricket and its in 2011, in this list under the Domestic Cricket of cricketers banned for corruption associated with betting.

List of cricketers banned for corruption - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Teen Wolf]

I was pretty outraged when poor Bob Woolmer was murdered died because of bookmakers who didn't want to be exposed natural causes.

A no-ball here or there, who cares, corruption in cricket is harmless!

 

[blackcat]

I was pretty outraged when poor Bob Woolmer was murdered died because of bookmakers who didn't want to be exposed natural causes.

A no-ball here or there, who cares, corruption in cricket is harmless!

perspective

How many balls are bowled and how many micro-spotfixes ? Will you protest for drones murdering adolescents in Yemen ?

One needs to put this on context for the complete spectrum of human d.e.p.r.a.v.i.t.y. on this planet

that is false equivalence and a syllogism fallacy , folks are accountable to common law and criminal code in the West

there were sport regulations that compelled a player to uphold effort
there are criminal law that make murder a crime

you wring your fingers , self-flaggelate , po-faced , inner staring navel gazing , but how can you rectify the whole of the world

 

[Teen Wolf]

perspective

How many balls are bowled and how many micro-spotfixes ? Will you protest for drones murdering adolescents in Yemen ?

One needs to put this on context for the complete spectrum of human d.e.p.r.a.v.i.t.y. on this planet

that is false equivalence and a syllogism fallacy , folks are accountable to common law and criminal code in the West

the were sport regulations that compelled a player to uphold effort
there are criminal law that make murder a crime

you wring your fingers , self-flaggelate , po-faced , inner staring navel gazing , but how can you rectify the word of the world

From the oldest of times, people danced for a number of reasons. They danced in prayer or so that their crops would be plentiful or so their hunt would be good. And they danced to stay physically fit and show their community spirit. And they danced to celebrate. And that, that is the dancing that we’re talking about. Aren’t we told in Psalm 149: ‘Praise ye the Lord. Sing unto the Lord a new song. Let them praise His name in the dance’?…It was King David. King David, who we read about in Samuel, and, and what did David do? What did David do? What did David do? ‘David danced before the Lord with all his might, leaping, leaping and dancing before the Lord.’ Leaping and dancing! Ecclesiastes assures us that there is a time to every purpose under heaven. A time to laugh and a time to weep. A time to mourn and there is a time to dance. And there was a time for this law, but not anymore. See, this is our time to dance. It is our way of, of celebrating life. It’s the way it was in the beginning. It’s the way it’s always been. It’s the way it should be now.

 

[blackcat]

From the oldest of times, people danced for a number of reasons. They danced in prayer or so that their crops would be plentiful or so their hunt would be good. And they danced to stay physically fit and show their community spirit. And they danced to celebrate. And that, that is the dancing that we’re talking about. Aren’t we told in Psalm 149: ‘Praise ye the Lord. Sing unto the Lord a new song. Let them praise His name in the dance’?…It was King David. King David, who we read about in Samuel, and, and what did David do? What did David do? What did David do? ‘David danced before the Lord with all his might, leaping, leaping and dancing before the Lord.’ Leaping and dancing! Ecclesiastes assures us that there is a time to every purpose under heaven. A time to laugh and a time to weep. A time to mourn and there is a time to dance. And there was a time for this law, but not anymore. See, this is our time to dance. It is our way of, of celebrating life. It’s the way it was in the beginning. It’s the way it’s always been. It’s the way it should be now.

The BCCA ACB ICU do have financial & regulatory weapons at their disposal to <trend to> compel compliance

there will be regulatory tension , cultural difference and the risk v reward scales

It was not Warne and Mark Waugh that opened the bottle , it was not Steve Smith or a few Pakistani's with bottle tops in the 80s in Karachi , this was determined , humans don't ascribe to strict regulatory conditions , it was not Trevor Chappell and underarm deliveries