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Gil really needs to go for this. Evidence the AFL covered it up and hampered the seasons of two afl clubs (not Melbourne), despite Melbourne being guilty.
Corrupt pieces of s**t.
I think for most of us, this is about a bent AFL administration, rather than any club.Who cares. We all know tanking doesn’t actually make your club better, it makes it worse. We tanked and it took us a decade to play finals again. Good clubs don’t do it. We aren’t a good club. Nothing to see here.
Geelong had plenty of handouts w/ father son selections. Hawthorn had priority picks. Sydney COLA.If the there were any intelligent journalists around and wanted to make a stand on tanking they’d want articles written re how successful Geelong, Hawthorn, Sydney, Adelaide, WC and Collingwood have been for not tanking...
Let’s give some credit to the winners here.
Yeah I can't understand how Carlton got away with that Kruezer cup game and Fevola getting benched when he looked like beating Collingwood of all teams from memory....How the Blues escaped any sanctions for their blatant tanking in the mid 2000's in beyond me.. Did the AFL go soft after they had already punished them so much over salary cap breaches?
If the there were any intelligent journalists around and wanted to make a stand on tanking they’d want articles written re how successful Geelong, Hawthorn, Sydney, Adelaide, WC and Collingwood have been for not tanking. Talk about why it’s bad and why successful clubs don’t do it. Talk about losing cultures cultivated by Melbourne and Carlton and why they’ve had so many no.1-2 selections between them but are still total losers.
Let’s give some credit to the winners here.
How the Blues escaped any sanctions for their blatant tanking in the mid 2000's in beyond me.. Did the AFL go soft after they had already punished them so much over salary cap breaches?
Don't forget about Tony Liberatore's tell all on Open Mike a few years back too.. The AFL clearly turned a blind eye on Carlton and doubled down on Melbourne. Quite sickening really.
Which clubs? Not Geelong, Hawthorn and WC. Adelaide has always been finals thereabouts and Collingwood up until 2011 were top 4. Lean patch under Buckley but did they tank?Except that some of the clubs mentioned did tank, but that doesn’t suit the narrative.
We were also playing finals within 2 years of the Kreuzer Cup.
Which clubs? Not Geelong, Hawthorn and WC. Adelaide has always been finals thereabouts and Collingwood up until 2011 were top 4. Lean patch under Buckley but did they tank?
You played finals in 2009 probably off the back of some decent experienced players but it was well and truly downhill from there. Nevertheless, your abundance of top picks like ours proved nothing in the light of day.
Who cares. We all know tanking doesn’t actually make your club better, it makes it worse. We tanked and it took us a decade to play finals again. Good clubs don’t do it. We aren’t a good club. Nothing to see here.
Bullshit. I mean I strongly disagree with your comments. If you're talking about '04 & '05, the Pies were decimated by injury. The entire forward line & the entire ruck division were missing for most of those seasons. No surprise that a half back in Clement won the B&F both years. We lost to Freo by 100 points, and that's too humiliating to be tanking.The AFL needs to investigate clubs like Carlton and Richmond whose coaches admitted to tanking but weren't even investigated. Collingwood, Hawthorn, Richmond, WC all tanked and won flags from their ill gotten gains.