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Hewitt v Roddick

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Safin needs to be switched on. I look at it from the point of view because he has beaten Federer he could easily get lulled into a false sense of security. He needs to start well. Bearing in mind this is his 3rd Open Final, will any doubt surface if he finds himself under pressure?
 
Thats Power said:
You lost all your crediblity there.Nadal is a very dangerous player who is breaking through now with a huge forehand.He destroyed federer last year on hardcourts with that weapon. You are looking at statistics too much.
He's a talented youngster. He'll be a great player in afew years.

But he's still never been past the 4 th round of Grand Slam, nor has he won a five-set match in major.

Not "a quality name player". A talented youngster, but not an established threat.

He beat Federer once last year. Are you sure it was on hardcourt? I thought it was on clay.....

BTW, you yourself have zero credibility so I won't be taking advice from you.....
 
SYDNEY_EAGLE said:
Quality name players? Like who?

Nalbadian was seeded 9.
He just beat number 2 in the world
he beat Juan Ignacio Chela in the 1st round, he is ranked 25th in the world........anything else?
What is it that people try to say Hewitt can't win??????
 
Thats Power said:
You lost all your crediblity there.Nadal is a very dangerous player who is breaking through now with a huge forehand.He destroyed federer last year on hardcourts with that weapon. You are looking at statistics too much.

Add to that Clement who many will remeber from his Aussie Open exploits a few years ago, James Blake who is one of the best 25-30 players in the world, just had a unbelievable 2004, Nadal will be a top 10 player within the next 18 months. Chela is a very dangerous opponent especially on the slower rebound ace courts, add in Nalbandian who is one of the most respected players on the tour. Then you get to Roddick who demolished everyone in his way, and is in the top 4 players in the world.

I don't think Hewitt could have had a harder run without facing Federer actually.
 

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AirportWest #17 said:
Nalbadian was seeded 9.
He just beat number 2 in the world
he beat Juan Ignacio Chela in the 1st round, he is ranked 25th in the world........anything else?
What is it that people try to say Hewitt can't win??????
First of all, I tipped Hewitt to win. I did so emphatically. Check the top of page 2.

Juan Ignacio Chela was a 3rd round match. Arnaud Clement was 1st round.

Neither Nalbandian nor Chela have any weapons. They are baseliners that don't attack.

Neither are name players. Neither have won a major. Rodick ws a great scalp, but one that I predicted.

In closing, Roddick is the only real quality name player that Hewitt has beaten.
 
AirportWest #17 said:
Hewitt is #3 in the world
Saffin is #4 in the world.

Buy this Hewitt should win, stats don't lie!
Not a relevant statistic. Lower ranked players often beat higher ranked players.

For example, both semi-finals.
 
SYDNEY_EAGLE said:
First of all, I tipped Hewitt to win. I did so emphatically. Check the top of page 2.

Juan Ignacio Chela was a 3rd round match. Arnaud Clement was 1st round.

Neither Nalbandian nor Chela have any weapons. They are baseliners that don't attack.

Neither are name players. Neither have won a major. Rodick ws a great scalp, but one that I predicted.

In closing, Roddick is the only real quality name player that Hewitt has beaten.

Thats fair enough, however Nalbandian did make the Wimbeldon final, as a matter of fact that was the year that Hewitt took the title
 
cameronk said:
Add to that Clement who many will remeber from his Aussie Open exploits a few years ago, James Blake who is one of the best 25-30 players in the world, just had a unbelievable 2004, Nadal will be a top 10 player within the next 18 months. Chela is a very dangerous opponent especially on the slower rebound ace courts, add in Nalbandian who is one of the most respected players on the tour. Then you get to Roddick who demolished everyone in his way, and is in the top 4 players in the world.

I don't think Hewitt could have had a harder run without facing Federer actually.
Clement had to qualify. He's another baseliner. Hewitt eats those guys for breakfast.

Fair call on Blake. That was a tough second round draw. But ultimately he didn't have the fitness or the game to go the distance and that's ben a hallmark of his whole career.
 
SYDNEY_EAGLE said:
He's a talented youngster. He'll be a great player in afew years.
.....
He sure will be.. and he is showing majors signs now.Any up and coming youngster playing solid tennis is not worth it huh?
SYDNEY_EAGLE said:
But he's still never been past the 4 th round of Grand Slam, nor has he won a five-set match in major.
.....
Playing his 4th grand slam , what do you expect? oh btw he did beat roddick in 5 set 2 months ago in davis cup but thats nothing huh? :rolleyes:
SYDNEY_EAGLE said:
Not "a quality name player". A talented youngster, but not an established threat.

He beat Federer once last year. Are you sure it was on hardcourt? I thought it was on clay.....
Keybiscaybe, miami! check the atp site if you want..that even in straight sets..about time you learn something about the game.
SYDNEY_EAGLE said:
BTW, you yourself have zero credibility so I won't be taking advice from you.....
Sure :D
 
SYDNEY_EAGLE said:
Clement had to qualify. He's another baseliner. Hewitt eats those guys for breakfast.

Fair call on Blake. That was a tough second round draw. But ultimately he didn't have the fitness or the game to go the distance and that's ben a hallmark of his whole career.
black had a swag of injuries last year so that was to be expected
 
AirportWest #17 said:
Thats fair enough, however Nalbandian did make the Wimbeldon final, as a matter of fact that was the year that Hewitt took the title
I'm not denying his talent.

He made the final as an unknown claycourter, who was even younger than Hewitt.

He didn't beat anyone on the way to the final, and was promptly thrashed once he got there.

Sure he's top 10, but still nowhere near the top 4 in terms of game, achievement and mental toughness.
 
Thats Power said:
He sure will be.. and he is showing majors signs now.Any up and coming youngster playing solid tennis is not worth it huh?

Playing his 4th grand slam , what do you expect? oh btw he did beat roddick in 5 set 2 months ago in davis cup but thats nothing huh? :rolleyes:

Keybiscaybe, miami! check the atp site if you want..that even in straight sets..about time you learn something about the game.
My point is that beating an super-talented 18 y.o. with no Grand Slam pedigree does not constitute a major scalp.

I'm not degrading Nadal. I think he's fantastic and it's only a matter of time before he wins a major.

But he's ranked 56th in the world and has never made an impact at a Grand Slam. So while it was a tough draw, it's not much of a feather in Hewitt's cap.
 

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SYDNEY_EAGLE said:
I'm not denying his talent.

He made the final as an unknown claycourter, who was even younger than Hewitt.

He didn't beat anyone on the way to the final, and was promptly thrashed once he got there.

Sure he's top 10, but still nowhere near the top 4 in terms of game, achievement and mental toughness.

okay fair enough, just to get this straight we both want Lleyton to win right?
 
SYDNEY_EAGLE said:
I'm not denying his talent.

He made the final as an unknown claycourter, who was even younger than Hewitt.

He didn't beat anyone on the way to the final, and was promptly thrashed once he got there.

Sure he's top 10, but still nowhere near the top 4 in terms of game, achievement and mental toughness.
He was injured last year.He is a french open semi finalist in 2004 and 2003 US open semi finalist..he is far from a claycourter.He is also the last year aussie open quarter finalist.
 
Hewitt has done it tough and his fighting spirit has been admirable.

But none of his victories are even in the same ballpark as Safin's win over Federer.

In all of his matches, prior to tonight, Hewitt played less fancied opponents who he let into the game.

He did well to fight back, but ultimately, he probably should have beaten them from the outset.

Safin went 5 sets with a guy who had been 25 -0 against top 10 players since October 2003.

That's a f*cking victory.

Hewitt rolling 3 lower-ranked claycourters after giving them a sniff doesn't even compare!
 
Thats Power said:
He was injured last year.He is a french open semi finalist in 2004 and 2003 US open semi finalist..he is far from a claycourter.He is also the last year aussie open quarter finalist.

He doesn't let facts get in the way of the story.
 
AirportWest #17 said:
okay fair enough, just to get this straight we both want Lleyton to win right?
Actually I'd like to see Safin win.

I think he deserves it after beating Federer.

If Federer had won, he would have kicked Hewitt's arse.
 

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Thats Power said:
He was injured last year.He is a french open semi finalist in 2004 and 2003 US open semi finalist..he is far from a claycourter.He is also the last year aussie open quarter finalist.
I'm not saying he's a hack. But he is 2nd tier.

Hewitt dominated him for 2 sets before letting him back into the match.

He has no weapons, and while he's one of the fittest guys on tour he's yet to really look like winning a Grand Slam. He had zero chance in the Wimbledon final against Hewitt.
 
Thats Power said:
You are too right..its worthless to go on about it with him :D
You're just bitter because you fancy yourself as an expert but read tonight's match completely wrong.

I, on the other hand, called it early and emphatically, and I was vindicated.

You, my friend, don't know sh*t, as demonstrated by your thoughts pre-match on Hewitt's chances.
 
SYDNEY_EAGLE said:
What's the deal?

Hewitt owns Roddick, and injury premitting he should kick his ass.

Didn't you guys see the match at the Masters Cup? Hewitt destroyed Roddick when it came to the crunch.

Hewitt has a massive psychological edge over Roddick and there's no doubt that his best tennis (as long as he's not hobbling around the court) will get him over the line.
Called it....
 
SYDNEY_EAGLE said:
I'm not saying he's a hack. But he is 2nd tier.

Hewitt dominated him for 2 sets before letting him back into the match.

He has no weapons, and while he's one of the fittest guys on tour he's yet to really look like winning a Grand Slam. He had zero chance in the Wimbledon final against Hewitt.
Sigh..maybe you need to see some of his old tapes.His backhand down the line is rated one of the best in the game behind marat safin's! ever heard about darren cahill's column? read that! he said exactly the same thing.He is one of the fastest guys on tour too! yeah i agree he was pathetic in the first two sets against hewitt..but this was his first big tournament after a huge injury prone 2004! give it a rest
 
SYDNEY_EAGLE said:
I think he deserves it after beating Federer..
Hewitt has had three 5 set matches that he has had to fight his way through and ur saying he doesnt deserve to win?

SYDNEY_EAGLE said:
If Federer had won, he would have kicked Hewitt's arse.
But Federer didnt win, and all he can do is watch from the side lines!
 

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