Hewitts Aus open

[TheMase]

Originally posted by eastaugh36

Also dont forget what philipoosis has done in the past, one word - CHILDISH.

When has he acted childish ON COURT. He hasn't, and that is the point.

Hewitt acts like a spoilt bratt on court. Whereas Philippoussis gets on with the job. How often do you see Mark have a go at the umpire, or insult the lines person? Rarely to never

 

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by TheMase


When has he acted childish ON COURT. He hasn't, and that is the point.

Hewitt acts like a spoilt bratt on court. Whereas Philippoussis gets on with the job. How often do you see Mark have a go at the umpire, or insult the lines person? Rarely to never

who cares where he acts childish , he still does and has in the past ! He is S-O-F-T !
And best of all, he lost today !!!!!!

 

[Grendel]

Originally posted by Jars458


That's right the guy who has done so much for Australia in the past.

People need to get some perspective

Leyton has given his all for Australia and should be respected for that at least.


Oh sorry, he's not an arrogant selfish show pony who drives a Lamborghini

Pathetic.

Or a bloke that drives said Lamborghini given an apology by so-called teamates (including one L.Hewitt) who questioned the seriousness of his knee injury... you know... that knee thats kept him out for twelve months....

Oh and Scud won us a Davis Cup... didnt choke like a certain pox ridden little sook did either.... He also won it away from home while said pox ridden sook choked in his own backyard..... Never heard Scud refering to a coloured man as 'one of them' either...


*service returned, awaits reply... or will it be dumped into the net*!?!....

 

[Grendel]

Originally posted by GOALden Hawk


It probably didn't affect the result, Hewitt was never playing well enough, but pretty poor sportsmanship if you ask me.

Np mention yet of Hewitt taking exactly the same option in the third set to stop Martins 'zone' play. Match was much more even after that little break.

Goose/Gander..... think theres something about a sword in there as well...

 

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by Grendel


Or a bloke that drives said Lamborghini given an apology by so-called teamates (including one L.Hewitt) who questioned the seriousness of his knee injury... you know... that knee thats kept him out for twelve months....

Oh and Scud won us a Davis Cup... didnt choke like a certain pox ridden little sook did either.... He also won it away from home while said pox ridden sook choked in his own backyard..... Never heard Scud refering to a coloured man as 'one of them' either...


*service returned, awaits reply... or will it be dumped into the net*!?!....

great match today wasnt it ? HAHAHA, soft as ever !
also, as long as hewitt is around pihilipoussis will always be behind him in australias ratings of our players !
so choke on that one. !!!!!! haha, the only sook is that sook who complains - "aaaagh, roche is in rafters box, aaaagh" - DER obviously he is, roche is rafters coach ! DER !!!!!

 

[Grendel]

Originally posted by eastaugh36


great match today wasnt it ? HAHAHA, soft as ever !
also, as long as hewitt is around pihilipoussis will always be behind him in australias ratings of our players !
so choke on that one. !!!!!! haha, the only sook is that sook who complains - "aaaagh, roche is in rafters box, aaaagh" - DER obviously he is, roche is rafters coach ! DER !!!!!

yep, dumped into the net.

Where was any mention about Flips performance in this or his comeback/recovery? No, cant mention that or profer up excuses on his behalf like a certain pox ridden sook can we?? Goes out plays and accepted he was defeated by the better player.

Gee, wonder if Hewitt could try that?

*service clean down the middle, looks a whitewash*

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Originally posted by elt
The biggest problem with the injury timeout is that it isn't against the rules, and for good reason. I don't think we ever want a situation where a player needs medical attention but can't get it until the end of a game.

Unfortunately some players will always try to take advantage of it. In Hewitt's press conference he was saying that he thought Martin struggled to run at the 4-4 point in the tiebreak so it would seem his cramps were genuine.

A difficult situation with no ideal solution.

Actually, I believe Lleyton was being sarcastic with that comment. He was suggesting that Martin had no problem hitting the winner to go to 5-4 in the tiebreak.

Gren, I know Lleyton had injury timeouts as well and even if the match did even up after them, we are talking about two serves at 4-5 down in a tiebreak of a must win set. Hardly the same as during the middle of a game in which you have the opportunity to recapture your momentum. To actually show some sign of struggling and needing the timeout to try to get yourself right possibly should be a prerequisite, not look to be on fire by winning 5 of the last 6 tiebreak points and put the pressure back on your opponent. Shall we agree that all injury timeouts are equal but some are more equal than others?

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by jod23

I think Lleyton is great for australia and tennis. To be honest its time tennis grew up! He gets **** for pumping his fist and shouting cmon??????

no...he gets sh!!t for acting like an arrogant turd...calling everyone names, and acting like a spoilt brat whenever things dont go his way.

Its called PASSION.

Cockatoo Collins does the same thing when he kicks a goal..yet people think hes a dilhead for doing the same thing. So whats the difference??

Just because Tennis is supposed to be a gentlemens game doesnt mean someone cant show a little passion.

passion is fine....calling half a dozen people names, telling the crowd to shut up, abusing the umpire, and acting like a spoilt brat when things dont go your way is not showing passion.
He has always been like that. Always acted like the typical spolit kid who gets everything he asks for.

I think Lleytons great (Pats better but we all love Pat) and i wish him all the best for the remainder of the year.

hes a talented player, noones doubting that...but hes a tool. How many people hate Wayne Carey for the way he acts?? Noones doubting his talent...just his attitude.

 

[Joe Mama]

It is typical of the pathetic nature of certain members of the Australian public that do nothing but bag those who have the talent and the courage to succeed, whilst achieving nothing for themselves.

This goes for all of those who bag both Hewitt and Phillippoussis, they have talent and have a little intestinal fortitude (unlike some of you pissants out there) and deserve the rewards that they get, no wonder we are seen as a pissy little island in the middle of nowhere, when we don't encourage the talent that we have in this country (in all fields, not just sport).

Why can't we just forgive them both, they have made some mistakes, and are paying the price for them, but you knockers out there just want to just go out and crap on about yesterdays' news, whilst their recent behaviour has been excellent (that goes for both Hewitt and Phillippoussis)

WE ARE ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC, WE DON'T DESERVE TO LIVE IN SUCH A PLACE, WE DESERVE TO GO BECOME THE WHITE TRASH OF ASIA WHEN ALL WE DO IS JUST CRITICISE THOSE WHO ACHIEVE.

 

[Grendel]

Originally posted by Wayde Petersen
whilst their recent behaviour has been excellent

Tell that to the linesman Hewitt abused yesterday for having his chair in the way (a chair thats been in the same place probably since the inception of the tournament).

Btw, I dont like Hewitt, that doesnt make me Un-Australian. It makes me un-Hewitt. Or is it wrong to think that I would like to see all our sportsmen and women behave like Rafter, Rosewall, Goolagong, Dent, Fitzpatrick, Emerson, Court, etc etc...

Never liked Cash either!

 

[jod23]

Originally posted by Macca19


Cockatoo Collins does the same thing when he kicks a goal..yet people think hes a dilhead for doing the same thing. So whats the difference??



passion is fine....calling half a dozen people names, telling the crowd to shut up, abusing the umpire, and acting like a spoilt brat when things dont go your way is not showing passion.
He has always been like that. Always acted like the typical spolit kid who gets everything he asks for.



hes a talented player, noones doubting that...but hes a tool. How many people hate Wayne Carey for the way he acts?? Noones doubting his talent...just his attitude.

Since the Blake incident he hasnt done much wrong at all. You can think whatever you like but i think he is a champion and im proud of him. He will probably go on to be our greatest ever tennis player.

CMON!!

 

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by Grendel


yep, dumped into the net.

Where was any mention about Flips performance in this or his comeback/recovery? No, cant mention that or profer up excuses on his behalf like a certain pox ridden sook can we?? Goes out plays and accepted he was defeated by the better player.

Gee, wonder if Hewitt could try that?

*service clean down the middle, looks a whitewash*

haha, hewitt did have chicken pox and had virtually no hard matchplay leading up to the aussie open, its fact.
Philipoosis played in the best leadup to the aussie open, the aapt championships here in adelaide, and I was not impressed with his performance, sure his serve is a killer but he makes alot of little mistakes once the serve was returned by one of the best returns of serve in the world - tim henman.

I dislike philipoosis and I have just as much a reason to dislike him as you do hewitt, take a look at all the things he has done. Oh and another surpise, he complained of injury problems again, oh and I also forgot, after his match declared he wouldnt be playing in davis cup round 1 in argentina ! At least hewitt has 10 times the toughness of philipoosis despite his small stature. He is guts personified, onya lleyton.

 

[elt]

Originally posted by jod23
He will probably go on to be our greatest ever tennis player.

I can't believe I just read this. One of the most uninformed tennis opinions I've seen on this board.

 

[elt]

Originally posted by Grendel
Never liked Cash either!

A truly wise man

 

[evade28]

Tell that to the linesman Hewitt abused yesterday for having his chair in the way (a chair thats been in the same place probably since the inception of the tournament).

grendel, the linesman was 2 meters in front of the chair.
it wasnt the chair that was the problem, he wasnt where he was supposed to be and therefore got in the way.

 

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by elt


I can't believe I just read this. One of the most uninformed tennis opinions I've seen on this board.

but its true

 

[elt]

To say that he will "probably" (i.e. more likely than not) go on to be a more successful player than Laver is laughable.

Rocket as the only man to win two grand slams, is regarded by many as the greatest of all time and to make any comparison between him and Hewitt is not only ridiculous, it is a sign of pure ignorance.

BTW, there are plenty of other Australian tennis players that I rate above Hewitt. I have used Laver as an example because he is imho the greatest ever especially when you consider the rules of the day regarding professionalism.

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by jod23

He will probably go on to be our greatest ever tennis player.

CMON!!

In the last 20 years maybe...'ever'...fraid not

 

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by elt
To say that he will "probably" (i.e. more likely than not) go on to be a more successful player than Laver is laughable.

Rocket as the only man to win two grand slams, is regarded by many as the greatest of all time and to make any comparison between him and Hewitt is not only ridiculous, it is a sign of pure ignorance.

BTW, there are plenty of other Australian tennis players that I rate above Hewitt. I have used Laver as an example because he is imho the greatest ever especially when you consider the rules of the day regarding professionalism.

No he wont end up being rated better than laver but remember in lavers day there wasnt the depth there was today, these days to win 1 of the big 4 in a year would make a player happy with their season. Remember too that hewitt is only just starting what should be a great career, and has made number 1 after only about 3 or 4 years as a pro ! so he is a chance to end his career with at least 4 or 5 of the majors, if not more. This would rate him up there with our very best.

 

[Benoit is god]

What an idiotic comment Hewitt will be better than Laver.
BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

well it was amusing because you just couldn't have be serious.
Laver now would still sipe the little cry baby off the court in straight sets.

Hewitt is going to be better than Laver god thats made my night.

 

[jod23]

Why wont he go on with it?? He is young and with 1 Slam under his belt. I think Lavers record was 11 before Sampras broke it.

Hewitt is 20 years old, the current world number 1, lets say if he plays to 30 like Agassi and Sampras. Thats 10 years with 4 slams each year. That is 40 grand slams he has to play. Theres no reason he cant do it.

I know its tough and to be considered in the same field as Laver etc is silly at this stage of his career but i think he can and may do it. Just an opinion.

 

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by jod23
Why wont he go on with it?? He is young and with 1 Slam under his belt. I think Lavers record was 11 before Sampras broke it.

Hewitt is 20 years old, the current world number 1, lets say if he plays to 30 like Agassi and Sampras. Thats 10 years with 4 slams each year. That is 40 grand slams he has to play. Theres no reason he cant do it.

I know its tough and to be considered in the same field as Laver etc is silly at this stage of his career but i think he can and may do it. Just an opinion.

your spot on. These days there is alot more depth in mens tennis. Also benoit, if the laver of old went against the hewitt of today I am afraid to inform you that hewitt would win , due to the power in the game these days compared to the 60s.

 

[Joe Mama]

I don't necesarrily blame Lleyton Hewitt for his sometimes brattish behaviour or Mark Phillippoussis's love of fast cars and even faster women. (the media beats it up a wee bit, but that's another story) They are just card-carrying members of the "I love Me" generation, that seeks self contentment above all else, people of thier generation.

But, when someone arrives onto the scene, Grendel, that exemplifies the virtues of tennis greats such as Rod Laver, Arthur Ashe, Steffi Graf and Ken Rosewall (Pete Sampras, the greatest of all time) we berate him and say that he's as dull as dishwater (Sampras, once said a few years ago "I wish I could have played in an era where talent matters, and not the fact that wheter I make a good shoe commercial".

The problem here is that we don't know what we want in a modern-day athlete, do we want a showman or a gentleman. Sadly it seems, we don't want either.

 

[elt]

Originally posted by jod23
Why wont he go on with it?? He is young and with 1 Slam under his belt. I think Lavers record was 11 before Sampras broke it.

Hewitt is 20 years old, the current world number 1, lets say if he plays to 30 like Agassi and Sampras. Thats 10 years with 4 slams each year. That is 40 grand slams he has to play. Theres no reason he cant do it.

It wasn't Laver who held the record for most grand slams won. It was Emerson. There is a very good reason why and it illustrates my point. You can't just look at the stats and say Sampras (13 GS titles) is better than Emerson (12 GS titles) is better than Laver (11 GS titles) without understanding the history of professional tennis.

Laver made the Wimbledon finals four years in a row from 1959 and went on to win the Grand Slam in 1962. As a professional he wasn't allowed to compete again until 1968. He promptly made two more Wimbledon finals (1968,1969) and won another Grand Slam in 1969 in arguably the best year by a male professional. Consider that. 11 GS titles over ten years when there was a five year break in the middle without being able to compete and a Grand Slam on either side of the break.

If not for the rules regarding professionalism I have no doubt he would have won many more GS titles. Obviously we'll never know but to rate players solely on their Grand Slam performances when comparing eras is foolhardy. Until Sampras overtook him, Emerson held the record for GS titles but many people rated Emerson below Laver by virtue of the fact that he won 10 of them in the period where Laver wasn't allowed to compete.

I agree with the point being made about depth. There are more touring professionals now than previously, but that would be true of almost any sport. However, to dwell on it diminishes Laver's achievements in an era of very fine players. His abilities, his all court game and his talent to play shots nobody else was capable of were the reason he became the only male to win two Grand Slams.

Once you understand this and see the dominance Laver had you can see why I scoff at the suggestions Lleyton will go on to be our finest ever player.

Originally posted by jod23
I know its tough and to be considered in the same field as Laver etc is silly at this stage of his career but i think he can and may do it. Just an opinion.

No problems with opinions jod, everyone is entitled to them. However when they are based on shaky premises they can make you appear foolish.