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If you do, then you would support the option for people to post on this board unregistered. Of course you must support this, since you provided the facility to do it in the first place, right?

There seems to be a new ploy recently taken up by someone on your board. It seems designed to silence any unregistered voice.

The handle I post this message under is the third similar one I have used. I started with CrowsOK. Someone registered it, and has posted all of two messages under that name.

So OK, then I chose to post under the name CrowsRok. Someone has registered that now, too. I suspect the same person.

I suspect also that very shortly someone will register this name, Crows-r-ok. None of these registrations are being used to actually post, the only objective seems to be to silence an unregistered voice.

So, if you want to maintain the integrity of your provision on this board of the ability that "Anyone may post" and also "Registration is recommended, but not required" ... perhaps you could look into this?

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Well, there you go. And I thought I might have been imagining it. All this effort to get me to do something you want me to do? Or to get me to stop doing something you don't want me to do?

Whats all the fuss about, here anyway?

It leaves me more than a little mystified.

Is that you, Dan???????????? Trying to be all autocratic again, are we?
 
What's the problem ? Don't know who it is ?
That's probably because they aren't registered. Get the point now ?

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Originally posted by Carey_is_King:
What's the problem ? Don't know who it is ?
That's probably because they aren't registered. Get the point now ?


Not at all, C-I-K. You are registered, and I don't know who you are, either. I assume that you support Kangaroos, from your handle. If I use a consistent handle as an unregistered poster, and identify my allegience within that handle, then we both reveal exactly the same level of information about ourselves to other posters.

Someone is trying to prevent me from being consistent, god knows why.

But do go on, pray tell, what is this point which I'm failing to see?
 
Originally posted by Darky:
Have you also noticed that none of your imitators used your nickname? Not as much in demand as you might think!

Surely its apparent that the objective in registering the nicks is *NOT* to use it. Take it out of circulation. Beyond that, I can't fathom what this person hopes to achieve.

Its simply not a question of demand.
 
Originally posted by Crows-r-ok:
Not at all, C-I-K. You are registered, and I don't know who you are, either. I assume that you support Kangaroos, from your handle. If I use a consistent handle as an unregistered poster, and identify my allegience within that handle, then we both reveal exactly the same level of information about ourselves to other posters.

Someone is trying to prevent me from being consistent, god knows why.

But do go on, pray tell, what is this point which I'm failing to see?

OK, I will spell it out for you. If you post (or read) here regularly, you very quickly start to develop a "profile" of most of the other posters, and sometimes you glean information such as their age group, their occupation, whether they are married or single etc. So what ? I hear you asking. Well, it then becomes a more "personal", (though still anonymous) exchange of posts, and you start to feel that you almost know some of the other posters.
Assuming that registered posters retain the same nickname, then you know who you are dealing with, but with unregistered posters, you don't.
The question you need to ask is this;
If the only difference between posting unregistered and registering is agreeing to the conditions set out, and providing Bluey with your email address, what is the problem ?? I frankly, do not see any.



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Originally posted by Carey_is_King:
OK, I will spell it out for you. If you post (or read) here regularly, you very quickly start to develop a "profile" of most of the other posters, and sometimes you glean information such as their age group, their occupation, whether they are married or single etc. So what ? I hear you asking. Well, it then becomes a more "personal", (though still anonymous) exchange of posts, and you start to feel that you almost know some of the other posters.
Assuming that registered posters retain the same nickname, then you know who you are dealing with, but with unregistered posters, you don't.

Point of order - if an unregistered poster uses a handle consistently, then you still build up your profile of that reader. For a consistent unregistered poster, your point is invalid.

Second point - if a registered poster wants to post something nasty and out of character, he/she would just use a new nick and post unregistered. Registered or unregistered you can be inconsistent- there is no difference here.

So once again, it amounts to the same thing. Once again, why would someone try to prevent me from being consistent - sure the point of registering is to ENCOURAGE consistency - if I'm doing that anyway why try to stop it???

The question you need to ask is this;
If the only difference between posting unregistered and registering is agreeing to the conditions set out, and providing Bluey with your email address, what is the problem ?? I frankly, do not see any.

I have a generic policy - I do not give out e-mail address willy-nilly. Especially to and site which ends in .com - its just asking for trouble. I'll end up with all sorts of spamvertising and junkemail, and thats the LEAST of the bad things that could potentially happen.

If Bluey represents his site as being for footy discussion and open to anyone who wishes to post without registering, then why should it not be allowed to be so?

Where is the profit in stopping me from being consistent?
 
I have received no emails at all from Bigfooty, nor have I received any other spam or advertising emails since I joined.
It's not like you hand over your email address and then secret agents come to your house and kidnap you, is it?
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I wasn't going to enter this debate because it has been done to death. Crows whatever you are now, you don't have to worry about spamming or being sent unwanted emails. I have been registered for a long time & have not received 1 email that I haven't requested. Have a look, when you REGISTER it asks you whether you want big footy to send you emails, just tick no, guess what no unwanted emails, but then you wouldn't know that because you haven't bothered to register.
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I dont know why people care wether others are registered or not. Its no biggie.
Havent people got better things to do than crusade against unregistered posters on bigfooty and go around registering unregistered posters names? its pathetic.

the only time its a problem is when someone is to whimpy to use their registered name when they r dishing out abuse.

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What a bloody great storm in a teacup. You refuse to register, and then you march about claiming some constitutional right. You have a perfect right not to register. It gives you the right to post under whatever name you think fit. It also gives anyone else the right to use your name. If you want to stop it happening, register. If you don't want to register, well, you made your choice.

I'm reading it right now. Registration is recommended. And now you know why.
 
Originally posted by Darky:
I have received no emails at all from Bigfooty, nor have I received any other spam or advertising emails since I joined.
It's not like you hand over your email address and then secret agents come to your house and kidnap you, is it?
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Fine, thats good. You are lucky, and Bigfooty is apperently reputable. Its not that I really thought they weren't, its only that, why should I take a risk? They aren't automatically trustworthy, they are a commercial opertaion.

You lot all seem to think so "in the box" and "follow the leader".

And no-one has yet come up with an answer to - why should I compromise my (eminently sensible) policy?

This board claims "Anyone may post - even unregistered". Why should I not avail myself of that offer, and why do you all seem to beseech me to abandon my snesible policy?

Whats in it for you guys if I do ?
 
If your so paranoid about the whole situation, why don't u just sign up for a new e-mail at www.hotmail.com and get a new e-mail that you will never use except to register for bigfooty. Its not really that big a deal

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Originally posted by RogerC:
What a bloody great storm in a teacup. You refuse to register, and then you march about claiming some constitutional right. You have a perfect right not to register. It gives you the right to post under whatever name you think fit. It also gives anyone else the right to use your name. If you want to stop it happening, register. If you don't want to register, well, you made your choice.

I'm reading it right now. Registration is recommended. And now you know why.

I actually don't care much, its only about footy (entertainment) after all. I have a way of getting around the idiot. I'm posting here only for a bit of entertainment. I choose not to jeopardise my privacy over that. I am told I have the option to do just that.

What the HELL is the point in trying to prevent me?

And why oh why is everyone so upset over it, and why are you all so keen on trying to pester me into compromising my privacy, for no good reason?
 
I don't get it. You're unregistered. And you are posting. That's about all you are guaranteed, so you can't have a complaint about that. I don't see any policy regarding protection of unregistered names. And if your policy is so sensible, then why are you suffering problems that can't happen to a registered poster?
 
Originally posted by WCE2000:
If your so paranoid about the whole situation, why don't u just sign up for a new e-mail at www.hotmail.com and get a new e-mail that you will never use except to register for bigfooty. Its not really that big a deal


That should be obvious. You would have to give hotmail.com your real email. They too are a .com address. One level of indirection like this is not going to be enough to prevent a troublemaker from finding your real email.

Again, there should be no need for these .com addresses to know, or be trusted with, your email addresses. For example, whats to prevent Bigfooty from being hacked, and spilling all your email to a virus spreader or a "make money fast" chainmailer?

So why are you all trying to get me to violate my policy?

Sounds like a bit of retrospective self-justification to me. You lot didn't think of all this stuff, did you?
 

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