Hey true blue, is it me and you? Citizenship and the Constitution.

[tandino]

WHat did i miss ?

 

[NSWCROW]

The greens and Libs use the same lawyer ?

 

[tandino]

The greens and Libs use the same lawyer ?

Why the need for a High Court then if we're just going to rely on a lawyer's legal opinion.

It's not like a lawyer has ever been wrong, have they?

 

[GreyCrow]

Why the need for a High Court then if we're just going to rely on a lawyer's legal opinion.

It's not like a lawyer has ever been wrong, have they?

You do realise the HC is full of lawyers

 

[Dry Rot]

High Court looked at Bartlett's situation. He's OK.

 

[tandino]

You do realise the HC is full of lawyers

Yes. Well aware.

But until such time as we can appeal to the Privy Council again, their word is law.

 

[tandino]

High Court looked at Bartlett's situation. He's OK.

Somebody better tell the Professor then.

 

[NSWCROW]

I'm lost

 

[Dry Rot]

High Court looked at Bartlett's situation. He's OK.

Might have that wrong.

Curiously the HC confirmed Bartlett knowing his background, but rejected Nash's replacement.

Now this may be re-examined

Greens seek fresh legal advice over Andrew Bartlett's eligibility

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...egal-advice-over-andrew-bartletts-eligibility

 

[Forward Press]

At this point in time why aren't we pushing for a referendum to amend section 44 at the time of the next Federal election?

Two birds with one stone and I am confident a big majority of Australian voters would like to end this farce. I have enjoyed Barnaby Joyce being disqualified but I agree with those that think it's too harsh for someone born in Australia to Australian-born parents to have unknown dual citizenship and fall under s.44.

 

[Dry Rot]

At this point in time why aren't we pushing for a referendum to amend section 44 at the time of the next Federal election?

Two birds with one stone and I am confident a big majority of Australian voters would like to end this farce. I have enjoyed Barnaby Joyce being disqualified but I agree with those that think it's too harsh for someone born in Australia to Australian-born parents to have unknown dual citizenship and fall under s.44.

Can we also have a referendum to excuse and exonerate any poor old citizens who likewise screw up their ATO/ASIC/Centrelink paperwork?

 

[Crankyhawk]

So is this the new S44 thread ??

Fiona Nash's replacement Hollie Hughes is ineligible

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-...ghes-ineligible-to-replace-fiona-nash/9153638

I find that decision harsh. What is she supposed to do, not work in a government job on the hope that she gets called up? She met the criteria when the election was understood to be complete, took a job after losing, quit the same job to take up the nomination...

 

[Crankyhawk]

At this point in time why aren't we pushing for a referendum to amend section 44 at the time of the next Federal election?

Two birds with one stone and I am confident a big majority of Australian voters would like to end this farce. I have enjoyed Barnaby Joyce being disqualified but I agree with those that think it's too harsh for someone born in Australia to Australian-born parents to have unknown dual citizenship and fall under s.44.

Generally referendums don't succeed. And all it will take is an appeal to the "you can't trust dual national" argument.

 

[NSWCROW]

I find that decision harsh. What is she supposed to do, not work in a government job on the hope that she gets called up? She met the criteria when the election was understood to be complete, took a job after losing, quit the same job to take up the nomination...

Yeah haven't looked at the details but seems Bartlett IS in the same boat

 

[Bradesmaen]

So.. now that Joyce is outed as a sheep shagger.. are him and Lambie doing it?

 

[Gough]

At this point in time why aren't we pushing for a referendum to amend section 44 at the time of the next Federal election?

Two birds with one stone and I am confident a big majority of Australian voters would like to end this farce. I have enjoyed Barnaby Joyce being disqualified but I agree with those that think it's too harsh for someone born in Australia to Australian-born parents to have unknown dual citizenship and fall under s.44.

If we can't have a referendum on indigenous recognition, they can f*** off with one that exists solely make politicians' life a little easier.

 

[madmug]

So.. now that Joyce is outed as a sheep shagger.. are him and Lambie doing it?

Quality

 

[GreyCrow]

I find that decision harsh. What is she supposed to do, not work in a government job on the hope that she gets called up? She met the criteria when the election was understood to be complete, took a job after losing, quit the same job to take up the nomination...

I am a little baffled as well. At what stage of an election cycle are you deemed to be clear of any obligations? ie if the vacancy occurred a month before an election the assumption is the seat would hold over until the GE (correct? ) so any employment would be able to be cleared in the appropriate time. That Hughes vacated her appointment within 45 minutes of her eligibility must fall into a similar boat

If a person dies do all possible candidates have to resign before that person dies?

 

[Underarm]

At this point in time why aren't we pushing for a referendum to amend section 44 at the time of the next Federal election?

Two birds with one stone and I am confident a big majority of Australian voters would like to end this farce. I have enjoyed Barnaby Joyce being disqualified but I agree with those that think it's too harsh for someone born in Australia to Australian-born parents to have unknown dual citizenship and fall under s.44.

None of their dual citizenship is Unknown after a 5 minute google search.

 

[Crankyhawk]

I am a little baffled as well. At what stage of an election cycle are you deemed to be clear of any obligations? ie if the vacancy occurred a month before an election the assumption is the seat would hold over until the GE (correct? ) so any employment would be able to be cleared in the appropriate time. That Hughes vacated her appointment within 45 minutes of her eligibility must fall into a similar boat

If a person dies do all possible candidates have to resign before that person dies?

I think the argument the court is using is that the election is incomplete as an ineligble person was voted in. Therefore by taking up the job while the election was still open she is ineligible. Of course, what about every other member of parliament as, if the election is still open, all the candidates have an office of profit under the crown (that of being a paid parlimentarian)

So.. SACK EM ALL!

 

[NSWCROW]

Oh dear

 

[aCunningPlan]

I find that decision harsh. What is she supposed to do, not work in a government job on the hope that she gets called up? She met the criteria when the election was understood to be complete, took a job after losing, quit the same job to take up the nomination...

That would make the most sense. I still think it's rubbish. There are whole careers that will never be represented in parliament simply because they are highly dependent upon the public sector, a sector that accounts for roughly twenty percent of the nations economy. Instead of bankers and lawyers and union bosses, I'd like to see csiro scientists, public nurses and librarians get the chance to have a crack at representing the people's wishes.

 

[Dry Rot]

Another one bites the dust

NXT Skye Kakoschke-Moore quits over UK citizenship

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...uits-over-uk-citizenship-20171122-gzqevo.html

 

[Forward Press]

Very real chance NXT goes from multiple Senate seats to 0 in the next election.

Eat your heart out Palmer United.

 

[Satan]

Is Mugabe a chance ?