Moved Thread Himmelberg or McKay for $700k

[The Nostradamus]

Not only is McKay getting 850k a year on average

He’s probably the highest paid player next year due to front ending

1.4-1.5mil lol

And people actually thought there would be some debate around compo

 

[Libbaaaa]

Not only is McKay getting 850k a year on average

He’s probably the highest paid player next year due to front ending

1.4-1.5mil lol

And people actually thought there would be some debate around compo

Such a spud and he’ll be the highest paid player in the league next year.

 

[Unfazed]

I assumed (and hoped) McKay's contract would be heavily front ended. Good to have it confirmed. Means there will be plenty of space in 2025 and beyond to bring in more players.

 

[Orange Agent]

So he'll be asking to be traded after year 4 to go play with his brother or some other BS.

 

[DEVO]

Not only is McKay getting 850k a year on average

He’s probably the highest paid player next year due to front ending

1.4-1.5mil lol

And people actually thought there would be some debate around compo

On that kind of coin, I'm a little peeved we didn't get a second compo pick.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Not only is McKay getting 850k a year on average

He’s probably the highest paid player next year due to front ending

1.4-1.5mil lol

And people actually thought there would be some debate around compo

Wow, that would be more than $6K per disposal based on this season.

 

[Caligo]

Himmelberg and it isn't close.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Himmelberg and it isn't close.

Not only a much better player, but much better value for money.

McKay would now be the highest paid AFL player next season, yet I wouldn't even have him in the top 100 players.

Ridiculous!

 

[Caligo]

Not only a much better player, but much better value for money.

McKay would now be the highest paid AFL player next season, yet I wouldn't even have him in the top 100 players.

Ridiculous!

No kidding. Makes you think the quoted numbers might not be entirely accurate.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

No kidding. Makes you think the quoted numbers might not be entirely accurate.

Had 232 disposals this season in 23 games.

AFL Tables - Ben McKay - Stats - Statistics

$1.4m / 232 = $6K per disposal.

Insane if anywhere near true.

 

[Orange crush]

Not only a much better player, but much better value for money.

McKay would now be the highest paid AFL player next season, yet I wouldn't even have him in the top 100 players.

Ridiculous!

Both brothers are way over-valued

 

[Caligo]

Had 232 disposals this season in 23 games.

AFL Tables - Ben McKay - Stats - Statistics

$1.4m / 232 = $6K per disposal.

Insane if anywhere near true.

This is why I just don't believe it.

 

[manang magoos]

Such a spud and he’ll be the highest paid player in the league next year.

Almost as big a spud as Naughton

 

[Yoda_]

People obviously don't understand a position like a club like Essendon is in. Pay a marginal player like Jack Bowes

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Jack Bowes

Age

26

Ht

189cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

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Last 5

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16.3

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K

9.7

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6.6

4star

M

3.9

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T

2.5

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318.1

4star

D

18.0

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K

11.8

5star

HB

6.3

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.1

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MG

318.1

4star

D

11.6

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.4

4star

, Rory Atkins

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29

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185cm

Wt

82kg

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19.9

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12.1

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7.9

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M

4.6

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T

1.9

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MG

367.4

5star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.3

1star

T

2.7

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MG

147.7

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D

14.2

4star

K

8.8

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5.4

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M

4.0

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1.2

3star

MG

217.8

4star

or Adam Tomlinson

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Adam Tomlinson

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30

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194cm

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95kg

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15.5

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9.8

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4.8

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15.5

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K

9.8

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5.8

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4.8

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2.3

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15.5

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9.8

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5.8

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4.8

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2.3

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overs for a possible AFL standard player or pay overs for a player you know can be an AFL standard player?

Not only are we paying said AFL standard player enough, he is chewing up salary that we don't need to gift players not worth the money (most would agree that Cox, Perkins, Reid etc are not worth what others from there drafts class would command).


Now one can try to argue it's overs, yeah, probably is but read point b from this post and tell me who you would prefer from this years key back carousel?

 

[Yoda_]

Almost as big a spud as Naughton

Naughton's not a spud mate, he can play. however, he's probably one of the most over rated players in the game yes

 

[Caligo]

People obviously don't understand a position like a club like Essendon is in. Pay a marginal player like Jack Bowes, Rory Atkins or Adam Tomlinson overs for a possible AFL standard player or pay overs for a player you know can be an AFL standard player?

Not only are we paying said AFL standard player enough, he is chewing up salary that we don't need to gift players not worth the money (most would agree that Cox, Perkins, Reid etc are not worth what others from there drafts class would command).


Now one can try to argue it's overs, yeah, probably is but read point b from this post and tell me who you would prefer from this years key back carousel?

I would pay Jack Bowes if I could get pick 7 with him.

Otherwise you just front load young stars, for my club I would front load the heck out of Lewis, newcombe, day.

 

[Yoda_]

I would pay Jack Bowes if I could get pick 7 with him.

Otherwise you just front load young stars, for my club I would front load the heck out of Lewis, newcombe, day.

yeah, all good when you have young stars worth it. Essendon don't.

 

[Caligo]

yeah, all good when you have young stars worth it. Essendon don't.

I would happily give Nic Martin an absolute mint. Love the bloke and wish Hawthorn would yoink him.

 

[Westlo]

Such a spud and he’ll be the highest paid player in the league next year.

Yeah we’re doing that so we can target not only free agents but perhaps some out of contract players next year, any suggestions for an out of contract forward?

 

[HairyO]

I assumed (and hoped) McKay's contract would be heavily front ended. Good to have it confirmed. Means there will be plenty of space in 2025 and beyond to bring in more players.

Imagine thinking paying $1.5m a year to McKay has some sort of "win" to it.

 

[Lars27]

Imagine thinking paying $1.5m a year to McKay has some sort of "win" to it.

Hawthorn and Essendon are in the same position - lots of salary cap space to the point of needing to front load contracts just to meet the salary cap floor. We also both have poor mature key defender options. You only have Blanck/Frost as options right? Unless you play Sicily out of position. We have so much salary cap space that we have to do something with it, and McKay was pretty much the best option available. Overpaying him will not hurt us one bit, as we will have plenty of cap space at the end of 2024 to target more players. So getting McKay can only be seen as a positive to me.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Imagine thinking paying $1.5m a year to McKay has some sort of "win" to it.

You have to pay a min 95% of the cap and by paying him this much in his first year we reach that. Then subsequent years ..let’s say second year ..McKay drops back in pay and opens up cap space for us again for other players

 

[Mofra]

Yeah we’re doing that so we can target not only free agents but perhaps some out of contract players next year, any suggestions for an out of contract forward?

Josh Schache
You're welcome

 

[Caligo]

Hawthorn and Essendon are in the same position - lots of salary cap space to the point of needing to front load contracts just to meet the salary cap floor. We also both have poor mature key defender options. You only have Blanck/Frost as options right? Unless you play Sicily out of position. We have so much salary cap space that we have to do something with it, and McKay was pretty much the best option available. Overpaying him will not hurt us one bit, as we will have plenty of cap space at the end of 2024 to target more players. So getting McKay can only be seen as a positive to me.

Not the same at all. Hawthorn can front load elite young players. This sets up our future. Essendon chose to overpay for a spud (who blanck out performed in 2023 in 1on1s despite being 3 years younger).

You would have to be hoping he is on pretty serious inducements, because we have seen what McKay is like when he doesn't care.

 

[HairyO]

You have to pay a min 95% of the cap and by paying him this much in his first year we reach that. Then subsequent years ..let’s say second year ..McKay drops back in pay and opens up cap space for us again for other players

So front load all the good players. Him likely being the highest paid player in the comp next year is insane.

I wonder what people would have thought about Horace Grant having a front loaded contract and earning double what Jordan, Pippen and Rodman were on.