Analysis Hine Picking too Many of the Same Type

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I have noticed a bit this Season we have Depth in some Postions like Medium Forwards but we don't have any Real KPF's at all as Hine has only picked Paine,Gault.McLarty in the National Draft and other 2 Moore and Kelly where Father Sons since 2010.

Also we have a Real Lack of Crumbers. Yes we had Abbott and Kirby and we did not have much luck with them. With Abbott going AWOL after 1 Season and then Kirby's Heart Issue.

Then look at our Midfield we have some Good Inside/Outside Mids but outside of Adams and Maybe Sier we don't have many other Inside/Clarence Players.

Hine has been good of finding players but there too similar to each other.

Thoughts?
 

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Frank Gallagher

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I have noticed a bit this Season we have Depth in some Postions like Medium Forwards but we don't have any Real KPF's at all as Hine has only picked Paine,Gault.McLarty in the National Draft and other 2 Moore and Kelly where Father Sons since 2010.

Also we have a Real Lack of Crumbers. Yes we had Abbott and Kirby and we did not have much luck with them. With Abbott going AWOL after 1 Season and then Kirby's Heart Issue.

Then look at our Midfield we have some Good Inside/Outside Mids but outside of Adams and Maybe Sier we don't have many other Inside/Clarence Players.

Hine has been good of finding players but there too similar to each other.

Thoughts?
Having a million injuries a year certainly isn't helping.
 

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manicpie

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I have noticed a bit this Season we have Depth in some Postions like Medium Forwards but we don't have any Real KPF's at all as Hine has only picked Paine,Gault.McLarty in the National Draft and other 2 Moore and Kelly where Father Sons since 2010.

Also we have a Real Lack of Crumbers. Yes we had Abbott and Kirby and we did not have much luck with them. With Abbott going AWOL after 1 Season and then Kirby's Heart Issue.

Then look at our Midfield we have some Good Inside/Outside Mids but outside of Adams and Maybe Sier we don't have many other Inside/Clarence Players.

Hine has been good of finding players but there too similar to each other.

Thoughts?
Spot on dave and i know people will say that we have keane, Kelly etc. but they might not even make it, we need ready made KPP and a couple of genuine, fast small forwards
 

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Lack of KPP depth is the recurring issue for mine throughout 2018 -2019. An example of that is Keeffe. Could of kept him for next to nothing and he probably would have been happy playing VFL 90% of the time - but offloaded him.

Would've been great to have him out there today. Likewise Finlayson had we taken the punt on him when he was available.

I suggested names like Casbolt, L Jones and Rowe as cheap pickups at the end of last year and was laughed at. Rowe was picked up as depth for St Kilda, Jones has been solid and Casboult has performed at both ends of the ground in 2019...

Casboult would probably have gotten a game at times over Cox this year. Or covered down back so Roughead played ruck forward.

Our repeated lack of KPP depth just comes down to poor list management.
 

manicpie

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Lack of KPP depth is the recurring issue for mine throughout 2018 -2019. An example of that is Keeffe. Could of kept him for next to nothing and he probably would have been happy playing VFL 90% of the time - but offloaded him.

Would've been great to have him out there today. Likewise Finlayson had we taken the punt on him when he was available.

I suggested names like Casbolt, L Jones and Rowe as cheap pickups at the end of last year and was laughed at. Rowe was picked up as depth for St Kilda, Jones has been solid and Casboult has performed at both ends of the ground in 2019...

Casboult would probably have gotten a game at times over Cox this year. Or covered down back so Roughead played ruck forward.

Our repeated lack of KPP depth just comes down to poor list management.
great post, nailed it, Hine too busy picking midfielders who are one paced, we could have picked up a KPD in the mid season draft but once again he couldn't help himself and picked another midfielder
 

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Lack of KPP depth is the recurring issue for mine throughout 2018 -2019. An example of that is Keeffe. Could of kept him for next to nothing and he probably would have been happy playing VFL 90% of the time - but offloaded him.

Would've been great to have him out there today. Likewise Finlayson had we taken the punt on him when he was available.

I suggested names like Casbolt, L Jones and Rowe as cheap pickups at the end of last year and was laughed at. Rowe was picked up as depth for St Kilda, Jones has been solid and Casboult has performed at both ends of the ground in 2019...

Casboult would probably have gotten a game at times over Cox this year. Or covered down back so Roughead played ruck forward.

Our repeated lack of KPP depth just comes down to poor list management.
If you have solid KP depth who can play a role when required, that gives us license to be a bit more creative with guys like Moore and Howe.

Dictate terms to the opposition a bit more.
 

nahnah

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great post, nailed it, Hine too busy picking midfielders who are one paced, we could have picked up a KPD in the mid season draft but once again he couldn't help himself and picked another midfielder
Don’t think that is fair. Last year we drafted Stephenson who is fast, traded for Murray who’s a pacey half back. This year we drafted a pacey half back in Quaynor and young KPP in Kelly.

Could we have used another mature age defender? Sure. But he’s not picking purely one paced mids all the time
 

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