Roast Hislop = Wasted Pick

[tigerfansince86]

Yeah but there are alot of talented players in the country you just gotta find em.

 

[_RT_]

Not a fan of the move but considering that the players picked after Hislop in the rookie draft had been overlooked by every other club in the previous 120 odd selections through the National/PSD/Rookie drafts suggests to me that Hislop was better than what was available.

Now if a kid or a couple of kids picked after Hislop go on to play 300 games and win multiple flags and the odd Brownlow and Hislop fails then we have something to be upset about, but right now the odds of those kids reaching that level is about the same as us winning the flag in 2011, i.e. not bloody likely.

As for Hislop himself, now that he is back on the list I'm quite happy to give him a crack if his form and fitness warrant it. If not what have we lost, not much really, but if he comes off we've gained a player. Seems like a no lose situation to me.

 

[tugga]

Gold Coast hijacked all the best 17 year olds in the country last year. They dominated the National Draft this year and were included in the PSD and Rookie Draft. GWS had the first 1/2 dozen players in the Rookie Draft. Add the other current 16 clubs having their usual picks and people here are genuinely surprised Hardwick took Hislop. The next best 17 year old in the country is clearly way way off.
Hence why Geelong took a Kilsyth Basketballer(Bathie), Essendon a country ruckman (Jenkins), Melb took a retired Hawk (Campbell). Adel took a midget who's trialled at 4 clubs in 6 years (Callinan) and Collingwood took another skinny irishman (Cribbin).

You make some excellent points.
I think people forget at how much GC17 have r*ped the country of it's talent. Add that GWS took the best young rookies today, and you have your answer. Quite simply the cupboard was bare.

 

[Goldust]

Gold Coast hijacked all the best 17 year olds in the country last year. They dominated the National Draft this year and were included in the PSD and Rookie Draft. GWS had the first 1/2 dozen players in the Rookie Draft. Add the other current 16 clubs having their usual picks and people here are genuinely surprised Hardwick took Hislop. The next best 17 year old in the country is clearly way way off.
Hence why Geelong took a Kilsyth Basketballer(Bathie), Essendon a country ruckman (Jenkins), Melb took a retired Hawk (Campbell). Adel took a midget who's trialled at 4 clubs in 6 years (Callinan) and Collingwood took another skinny irishman (Cribbin).

WAS commenting today at work to someone that after seeing Gold Coast have the first eight selections in the rookie draft that they seem to have about 72 players on theirlist.
They had a phenomenol amount of picks ... put simply the cupboard was dry.
I rate Hislop higher than others ... I'd be intrigued to see what he can do with an extended run without injury. Clearly Hardwick rates him .... that's enough of an endorsement for mine.
I keep repeating it ... we haven't made too many bad calls to this point in the past two drafts!

 

[Kegguss]

Not a fan of the move but considering that the players picked after Hislop in the rookie draft had been overlooked by every other club in the previous 120 odd selections through the National/PSD/Rookie drafts suggests to me that Hislop was better than what was available.

Now if a kid or a couple of kids picked after Hislop go on to play 300 games and win multiple flags and the odd Brownlow and Hislop fails then we have something to be upset about, but right now the odds of those kids reaching that level is about the same as us winning the flag in 2011, i.e. not bloody likely.

As for Hislop himself, now that he is back on the list I'm quite happy to give him a crack if his form and fitness warrant it. If not what have we lost, not much really, but if he comes off we've gained a player. Seems like a no lose situation to me.

Well said.

 

[tigerwill]

WAS commenting today at work to someone that after seeing Gold Coast have the first eight selections in the rookie draft that they seem to have about 72 players on theirlist.
They had a phenomenol amount of picks ... put simply the cupboard was dry.
I rate Hislop higher than others ... I'd be intrigued to see what he can do with an extended run without injury. Clearly Hardwick rates him .... that's enough of an endorsement for mine.
I keep repeating it ... we haven't made too many bad calls to this point in the past two drafts!

Apart from zone picks, GWS had the 1st 8 rookie picks

 

[captain blood 17]

Hislop is the only selection i have issues with out the whole drafting process. A total failure. Why we didn't rookie list Sewell is beyond me. Can't do anything about it. But the glass is definately half empty with Hislop.

 

[MightyTiger]

Sewell got passed on by 16 other clubs, surely that is enough reason there to see why we didn't rookie him.

 

[Barx]

How bad is his balldrop?

Well Champ - at least his balls have dropped!

I'm leaning to the view that it would be irresponsible to NOT have someone a little hard given the number of undersized puppies we have.

 

[NQTIGER]

Soooo.... I take it you won't be taking Hislop with pick 1 in the Buddy Draft?

Grrr

I will take him, that way i wont need to post much.......

 

[Tiger2709]

He will never break into the senior side absolute waste of a pick! why not take 2 kids then Miller wtf is this shit? Poor recruiting AGAIN! WTF are they thinking? shitlop? LMAO

Fortunately you are neither our coach nor part of recruiting, are you even a supporter?

Miller was a smart move as a back up and part time coach, bagging our players is not the way to the top, why don't you go and support the scum down at Bomber land, you can help knife there new coach in the back, we don't need this at the Tigers!

 

[NQTIGER]

Hislop has shown enough and is a back up. Depth player. The question is do we need depth players at the moment??? should we have used the pick on a kid.... probably should have at this stage of our lists development. A project ruckman would have been a good choice IMO.

Hislop does offer us a utility type player. Was trailed up forward in the last pre-season and looked ok overhead and was always going in hard. Is a small improvement on King if fit.

Interesting decision but by no means such a bad decision people are making out to be on here.

not sure if serious,

Kicking king >>>>>>hislop
Handball King >>>>> hislop
Agro King = Hislop
Goalsense King>>>>>>>>>>>>>hislop

where is the improvement? age?

 

[RichosGuns]

My issues is why we took say Hislop over a Myles Sewel???

Same players dominate VFL but can't quite take the next step to best AFL club 22's such as Nahas, Valenti, Aaron Edwards, etc... Maybe that is what many recruiters thought regarding Myles Sewel, however Tom Hislop is one player who CAN'T even standout in the VFL so why take pick him?

I think this quote by Francis Jackson gives the best indication:

"Tommy Hislop - well the coach just loves him..."

 

[CallMeAl]

I could've told you the decision to keep Hislop on the list was a coaching dept decision, as opposed to a recruiting decision. Pretty sure the recruiters would have advised on the options, and with a lack of any quality choices, they likely decided to go with the devil they knew.

The thing is, as much (or little) as most on here have seen of Hislop, the recruiters have likely seen the same amount of those left in the RD at that point. And as much as we may think Hislop is a spud, with their knowledge of the players left, they may well know that those players left are even bigger spuds.

I would assume the only reason Hislop was not on the list proper was due to the injury he incurred last year. As far as I am concerned, he is in the same boat as probably half a dozen other players, except due to his injury he is in a position where he has to be rookie listed. He may well be promoted to the senior list before the season starts.

But in the end, who really knows. As much as people on here think they know, in general, they pretty much don't. But as we all know, opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one. And for that matter, everyone is entitled to one.

LOL. You forgot the close association with shit though.

 

[mitch richmond]

Well Champ - at least his balls have dropped!

I'm leaning to the view that it would be irresponsible to NOT have someone a little hard given the number of undersized puppies we have.

Good call!
I assume Contin and Hicks are still on our Rookie list. If we needed immediate back up I'd be more confident of Tom Hislop making a contribution than either of thse two youngsters. They are tiny.

 

[Bojangles17]

i think people are seriously overestimating the depth of the errr, rookie draft...anyone note that GWS only took 6 of their 9, what does that tellya...I figure that what remains are little more skidmarks on the bowl. tommy is a darn site better than that...close the damn thread it's a D I S G R A C E ...he's a fine young fella

 

[captain blood 17]

Sewell got passed on by 16 other clubs, surely that is enough reason there to see why we didn't rookie him.

And 15 clubs weren't interested in Hislop. Your point?

 

[captain blood 17]

i think people are seriously overestimating the depth of the errr, rookie draft...anyone note that GWS only took 6 of their 9, what does that tellya...I figure that what remains are little more skidmarks on the bowl. tommy is a darn site better than that...close the damn thread it's a D I S G R A C E ...he's a fine young fella

He could help little old ladies accross the road for all i care, as a footballer, His-slop.

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

Play him against collingwood and play him and king on didak which should make an interesting afternoon.

 

[captain blood 17]

Play him against collingwood and play him and king on didak which should make an interesting afternoon.

Yep, two reports, 2 goals (to King), and another 100 point belting as they will play the ball hard, and we will play the man and get nowhere. **** that. How about we put our head over the ball, cop our right whack in doing it, and get somewhere. False bravado = failure.

 

[hagansbull]

Hey guys, just got back from holiday fishing, did I miss anything?

 

[TheProwler]

I spat my coffee over my PC this arvo when I logged on and saw we reinvested another 12 months on this bloke.

I guess the coach can see something in him that I and a fair few posters on this board have not yet seen but seriously this must send a message to the rest of the group, what the message is confuses the hell out of me though??????

 

[tigers_of_old_08]

Well Champ - at least his balls have dropped!

I'm leaning to the view that it would be irresponsible to NOT have someone a little hard given the number of undersized puppies we have.

ha hah, very nicely put!

 

[UpTheGuts]

Okay after a few beers I have accepted the shitlop thing, If he can get his kicking and decision making better then I'll be happy

I've had at least 16 units and am still none the wiser

Ah well. Hope he snots someone I dislike

 

[folester41]

i agree, what a waste