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Yeah I mean that contradicts everything Simpson has communicated through his press conferences since the early stages of the year but sure.

Early stages of the year?

Simpson didn't start talking about our side being a very different side until priddis announced his retirement in what, round 15?

Up until that point they clearly believed they were contenders for the flag and all the trading, talk and drafting has been with that in mind.

Even then he had to be brow beaten by the media to play Partington.
 
Early stages of the year?

Simpson didn't start talking about our side being a very different side until priddis announced his retirement in what, round 15?

Up until that point they clearly believed they were contenders for the flag and all the trading, talk and drafting has been with that in mind.

Even then he had to be brow beaten by the media to play Partington.

I thought it began around the time we lost to the Suns. Certainly, that was when the comments began from simpson that we were an average side playing for a spot in the eight.

Even humouring you on that point does it add to the validity of your post? You said the club will think it had a successful year and change is not needed which is just baseless whingeing
 
I thought it began around the time we lost to the Suns. Certainly, that was when the comments began from simpson that we were an average side playing for a spot in the eight.

Even humouring you on that point does it add to the validity of your post? You said the club will think it had a successful year and change is not needed which is just baseless whingeing

So early stages of the season is round 11 half way through the year?

It's clear Simpson and vozzo over rated this side. You can try to deny the club's stubbornness to play youth all you want but the proof is in team selections right up to the final against gws dropping Partington for wellingham.

Absolutely nothing to gain from it and everything to lose based on wellingham previous form in our jumper and losing valuable experience for parto.

Even re-signing Lecras and Mackenzie reveals their stubborn belief in this sides senior players.

It's all good, go ahead and stick your head in the sand.
 

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So early stages of the season is round 11 half way through the year?

It's clear Simpson and vozzo over rated this side. You can try to deny the club's stubbornness to play youth all you want but the proof is in team selections right up to the final against gws dropping Partington for wellingham.

Absolutely nothing to gain from it and everything to lose based on wellingham previous form in our jumper and losing valuable experience for parto.

Even re-signing Lecras and Mackenzie reveals their stubborn belief in this sides senior players.

It's all good, go ahead and stick your head in the sand.
Chill out bro, the world's not ending.

Have an ice cream or something
 
So early stages of the season is round 11 half way through the year?

It's clear Simpson and vozzo over rated this side. You can try to deny the club's stubbornness to play youth all you want but the proof is in team selections right up to the final against gws dropping Partington for wellingham.

Absolutely nothing to gain from it and everything to lose based on wellingham previous form in our jumper and losing valuable experience for parto.

Even re-signing Lecras and Mackenzie reveals their stubborn belief in this sides senior players.

It's all good, go ahead and stick your head in the sand.
If they selected a finals team on the basis of getting some experience into youth, then that would be a basis for sacking imop. Its 1 step up from straight tanking.

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If they selected a finals team on the basis of getting some experience into youth, then that would be a basis for sacking imop. Its 1 step up from straight tanking.

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Mate we had absolutely ZERO chance of winning a granny this year

None whatsoever - so instead of getting finals experience into a coupla kids .....
 
So early stages of the season is round 11 half way through the year?

It's clear Simpson and vozzo over rated this side. You can try to deny the club's stubbornness to play youth all you want but the proof is in team selections right up to the final against gws dropping Partington for wellingham.

Absolutely nothing to gain from it and everything to lose based on wellingham previous form in our jumper and losing valuable experience for parto.

Even re-signing Lecras and Mackenzie reveals their stubborn belief in this sides senior players.

It's all good, go ahead and stick your head in the sand.

Talk about moving the goal posts. I myself have criticized the lack of list development throughout the year. But your assertion that the club are satisfied and think we have a good enough list is just laughable bullshit haha
 
Talk about moving the goal posts. I myself have criticized the lack of list development throughout the year. But your assertion that the club are satisfied and think we have a good enough list is just laughable bullshit haha

Well we will have to see how much they actually cut won't we.

Re-signing Lecras and to a lesser extent Mackenzie isn't a good starting point for the list or your argument.

Priddis is the only one currently out of our list that has been "forced" into retirement.

Mitchell and Petrie were always going to retire. Butler wasn't a regular and was a retirement waiting to happen.

I accept the club isn't satisfied with not winning a premiership but I believe they dont think it's the senior playing list holding us back.
 
Well we will have to see how much they actually cut won't we.

Re-signing Lecras and to a lesser extent Mackenzie isn't a good starting point for the list or your argument.

Priddis is the only one currently out of our list that has been "forced" into retirement.

Mitchell and Petrie were always going to retire. Butler wasn't a regular and was a retirement waiting to happen.

I accept the club isn't satisfied with not winning a premiership but I believe they dont think it's the senior playing list holding us back.

Going early with your criticisms there as the trade period hasn't happened yet. Hill, Masten and Wellingham could all be goneski.

I think it makes sense to retain Mackenzie but agree that LeCras should have gone.

I think you will find we will still be right up there for list cuts compared to the rest of the competition, particularly against those in the top eight. And it's not just about total list cuts, we need to look at what players they persevere with in the side next year.

For half the year we heard Simpson say "were an average side". As it got toward the end of the season he went for experience to go as deep as he could. That's not the same as apparently rating the list to be good enough.
 
Going early with your criticisms there as the trade period hasn't happened yet. Hill, Masten and Wellingham could all be goneski.

I think it makes sense to retain Mackenzie but agree that LeCras should have gone.

I think you will find we will still be right up there for list cuts compared to the rest of the competition, particularly against those in the top eight. And it's not just about total list cuts, we need to look at what players they persevere with in the side next year.

For half the year we heard Simpson say "were an average side". As it got toward the end of the season he went for experience to go as deep as he could. That's not the same as apparently rating the list to be good enough.

I certainly hope you are correct.
 

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Mate we had absolutely ZERO chance of winning a granny this year

None whatsoever - so instead of getting finals experience into a coupla kids .....
Which other teams do you think should have treated the final series like a training run?
 
Port were pretenders so were essendon.

Sydney were right up there out of the bottom four
If your a senior coach in a final series, and your attitude is, 'we cannot win, no point taking it to serious, let's blood some kids' then you need to be gone, because that shit can go through a club like shit through a goose.

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Mate we had absolutely ZERO chance of winning a granny this year

None whatsoever - so instead of getting finals experience into a coupla kids .....
We got finals experience into Sheed, Duggan and Partington. What exactly are you suggesting, putting a colts side out for a final just because we can't go the whole way?
 

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I'm not sold on this "at least we got finals finals experience into them" mantra anymore. Why? Because the Tigers and Bulldogs swept the finals series in the last 2 seasons with only a handful of players even playing in a final. I'm not saying its not valuable experience, it is, but what is important is a culture of winning, a culture of doing anything at all costs to win. We have lost that as a group and as an organisation. We can have all the superstars in the world but if we are missing that culture we are nowhere.
 
Someone wrote on here about hurn not being a great leader. Look at the way Cotchin played over the finals. He was manic. Diving in everywhere (lucky to play in gf but he was going hard 4 the ball)
Other than a bump on boak a couple years ago i cant remember much other than him sweeping up in the backline. Look i like the guy and hes a good kick etc but maybe we should look to a young guy to build a list around.

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