Yep. Probably more than 3 years away from being the player we need now. We need another Dawson basically.
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Roast How diabolical is our midfield?
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And now we're staring at pick 10s for the next 3 years with Laird, keays and Sloane controlling a huge chunk of stoppage minutes. Forward and back is good enough, but lack of speed and quality disposal in a forward direction and ability to pressure oppo from our midfield group is a severely limiting factor. We're stuck in the exact place I feared we would be and posted numerous times. Our rebuild strategy was nothing more than finding ourselves where we are, right in the convo for the bottom part of the 8. Great, it's worked so well the last 20 years.
We really need to being squeezing other options through the middle. Keays, Sloane, Laird and Dawson with cameos from Rachelle and Pedlar isn't cutting it. What can we do from within?
Of those playing yesterday?
Jones - prefer to leave him on the wing
Hinge - winger but is generally good in close
Milera - can get out of any tackle
FOG - maybe
Missing in the sanfl
Schoenberg - looking better but not grunt more a spread player
Crouch - more of the same
Hately - is he grunt? More a winger
Brown - not convinced
So in order to have "Grunt time" where Nicks can throw in combinations to wrestle back control or smash the opposition I would think the following:
Need to have Thilthorp or Strauchan rucking. In the middle have Dawson, Pedlar and FOG with Milera as an option if experiment of him in the middle works.
Sounds crazy but they need to have a switch option
Of those playing yesterday?
Jones - prefer to leave him on the wing
Hinge - winger but is generally good in close
Milera - can get out of any tackle
FOG - maybe
Missing in the sanfl
Schoenberg - looking better but not grunt more a spread player
Crouch - more of the same
Hately - is he grunt? More a winger
Brown - not convinced
So in order to have "Grunt time" where Nicks can throw in combinations to wrestle back control or smash the opposition I would think the following:
Need to have Thilthorp or Strauchan rucking. In the middle have Dawson, Pedlar and FOG with Milera as an option if experiment of him in the middle works.
Sounds crazy but they need to have a switch option
I like Powell but no way am I trading Worrell
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You forgot Berry . Needs to come back and stay in
Would we be a better midfield with a decent tap ruckman?
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We don't need anymore he "may" become an A-grader. We need to do whatever it takes to recruit a player who IS an A-grader. We definitely need to steer clear of players who are burning it in the state leagues but can't get a guernsey at the top level.
We don't need anymore he "may" become an A-grader. We need to do whatever it takes to recruit a player who IS an A-grader. We definitely need to steer clear of players who are burning it in the state leagues but can't get a guernsey at the top level.
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Long ago? Rachele and Soligo were only drafted 2 years ago and we had them in the midfield at the start of the season instead of Sloane and Keays.
Surely we couldn’t be worse?
You said draft "genuine" A grade midfielders who will probably be more "maybe" than Rachele, Pedlar or Soligo and take longer to develop so give them time. We aren't even close to being finals ready let alone premiership contenders and we've just recently an "accidental" A grade midfielder.
I don't think that's possible. We are clearly going after Redman.
Perhaps we need to wait for 2024 free agency?
where are they now?
Make no mistake Laird is still our best stoppage player. He is an A grader. He's clearly been carrying something and when he goes missing, we fall apart. He'll be 30 next year though, he wont keep this up for much longer.
We're not getting top 5 picks anymore, and this years draft is full for defenders and forwards at the top end. Hindsight now but we were better off trying to trade our future first for Rankine and take a mid this draft (Humphrey/Phillipou).
Shoenberg is in the discard pile but Soligo and Berry are still very young and have shown enough to suggest they can become good future pieces, need to back them in. Stop playing Keays and and Sloane in there and back the kids as see what they can do.
We're not getting top 5 picks anymore, and this years draft is full for defenders and forwards at the top end. Hindsight now but we were better off trying to trade our future first for Rankine and take a mid this draft (Humphrey/Phillipou).
Shoenberg is in the discard pile but Soligo and Berry are still very young and have shown enough to suggest they can become good future pieces, need to back them in. Stop playing Keays and and Sloane in there and back the kids as see what they can do.
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Well, it is their 2nd year so.....and I did see Rachele get some midfield time in the 4th quarter.
Hope we are targetting Phillipou who is still out of contract end of next year.
Good strategy, lose the midfield, rebound of half back.
Let’s not even play a ruck.
I didn't say it was a good strategy. We had 5 years to target an A grade midfield prospect and are where we are.
Sorry I wasn’t suggesting you were.
Just ignoring the midfield again is pure stupidity.
It's obvious midfield can cover other cracks.
We basically need Rachele and Pedlar to develop rapidly over the next 2 years.
Our coaching panel aren’t prepared to take that risk at the moment
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Thilthorpe, Rachele, Pedlar and Soligo can be the quad. I still have hope for Berry. Schoey seems too far gone.
It's a pity we couldn't get Luko in to partner Fogarty and keep Thilthorpe in the ruck.
It's a pity we couldn't get Luko in to partner Fogarty and keep Thilthorpe in the ruck.
I wish he could get back, his disposal is still the problem, his grunt is important
But overall the concern is Nicks reverting to Laird, Sloane and Keays. He needs to stop doing that, back in Dawson, Rachelle, Soligo and others with Keays and Sloane rotating at HF
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Agreed. I just don’t understand how berry can fall so badly when he was so good last year
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You stole VB's playbook.
