Strategy How do we fix the forward line?

[JoshFunkley]

Lol I’m fine mate just think any team that is down like we are should be brutal with the guys who aren’t part of the next tilt.

Play the kids before the older guys, results don’t matter if you are not making finals finish as low as you can.

2014 like everyone I thought we were a long way off but the problem i see now is on 2016 the players bought into every single thing Bev said and did. Now they look lost and some have little interest

We've already played easily the youngest team for most of this year, it's not as if we've got a dozen old blokes clogging the team sheet.

Tory's had two games this year. Against Essendon he produced easily my highlight of our entire season so far where he chased down a player known for being fast. Against Sydney he scored 2.0 on a day where our poor goalkicking cost us. Wouldn't be writing him off just yet.

You never know how quickly things can change. Most people wrote off North Melbourne and West Coast at the start of the year. They're looking in great shape. Everyone wrote us off at the start of 2015. If we'd have culled more senior players around that period because we probably weren't going to make finals that year, we never would've won a premiership.

Once we get back Picken, Dickson, Smith, Adams, Morris and Libba we can actually be a dangerous side, who could easily make finals next year.

 

[Tommycash]

We've already played easily the youngest team for most of this year, it's not as if we've got a dozen old blokes clogging the team sheet.

Tory's had two games this year. Against Essendon he produced easily my highlight of our entire season so far where he chased down a player known for being fast. Against Sydney he scored 2.0 on a day where our poor goalkicking cost us. Wouldn't be writing him off just yet.

You never know how quickly things can change. Most people wrote off North Melbourne and West Coast at the start of the year. They're looking in great shape. Everyone wrote us off at the start of 2015. If we'd have culled more senior players around that period because we probably weren't going to make finals that year, we never would've won a premiership.

Once we get back Picken, Dickson, Smith, Adams, Morris and Libba we can actually be a dangerous side, who could easily make finals next year.

Not to mention Dickson kicking what was probably the goal of the season. A cute little boundary line dummy coupled with a glorious checkside:

 

[Mattdougie]

We've already played easily the youngest team for most of this year, it's not as if we've got a dozen old blokes clogging the team sheet.

Tory's had two games this year. Against Essendon he produced easily my highlight of our entire season so far where he chased down a player known for being fast. Against Sydney he scored 2.0 on a day where our poor goalkicking cost us. Wouldn't be writing him off just yet.

You never know how quickly things can change. Most people wrote off North Melbourne and West Coast at the start of the year. They're looking in great shape. Everyone wrote us off at the start of 2015. If we'd have culled more senior players around that period because we probably weren't going to make finals that year, we never would've won a premiership.

Once we get back Picken, Dickson, Smith, Adams, Morris and Libba we can actually be a dangerous side, who could easily make finals next year.

I really do wish I could live in the fantasy world some of you guys do.

Look at the players you have listed to help us

Picken - we all love him but he is one hard hit away from finished

Dickson - injury prone 30 year old who has lost his best asset, straight kicking

Smith - Breaks down every year

Adams - as above and ist he new Tom Williams

Morris - absolute warrior but he is near the end

Libba - gun we miss massively


So apart from Libba the rest are suspect at best.


This is not a quick turn around we go back further before we come up again.

 

[JoshFunkley]

I really do wish I could live in the fantasy world some of you guys do.

Look at the players you have listed to help us

Picken - we all love him but he is one hard hit away from finished

Dickson - injury prone 30 year old who has lost his best asset, straight kicking

Smith - Breaks down every year

Adams - as above and ist he new Tom Williams

Morris - absolute warrior but he is near the end

Libba - gun we miss massively


So apart from Libba the rest are suspect at best.


This is not a quick turn around we go back further before we come up again.

Dickson has kicked 13.3 over the past two years, so not sure where you're coming from there.

I guess we'll find out over the next few weeks if you're right as most of these players are due to return. Let's hope Dicko kicks a bag tonight.

 

[Mattdougie]

Dickson has kicked 13.3 over the past two years, so not sure where you're coming from there.

I guess we'll find out over the next few weeks if you're right as most of these players are due to return. Let's hope Dicko kicks a bag tonight.

Dickson has kicked 13.3 over the last two years

Tells you exactly how unimportant he has been and it’s clearly time to move on and give the kids a go.

 

[lachy]

Dickson has kicked 13.3 over the last two years

Tells you exactly how unimportant he has been and it’s clearly time to move on and give the kids a go.

Which Kids are not getting a go?

Part of the reason I am not apoplectic when we lose and in misery for our future is our kids are getting a go and the vast majority are coming on very nicely that COULD give us a more significant turn around than 2014 to 2015 as next year Bont, MacCrae, McClean, Libba et el are moving into that experience sweet spot, Engloish has another pre season in the gym, Naughton and Cordy as KPD's have had the rest of the year together, hopefully so have Boyd and Shache, Richards too. The core is much stronger than 2014.

I agree with Jong, Honeychurch, Webb and Campbell and would look at 3 more during the trade and draft period

 

[Mattdougie]

Which Kids are not getting a go?

Part of the reason I am not apoplectic when we lose and in misery for our future is our kids are getting a go and the vast majority are coming on very nicely that COULD give us a more significant turn around than 2014 to 2015 as next year Bont, MacCrae, McClean, Libba et el are moving into that experience sweet spot, Engloish has another pre season in the gym, Naughton and Cordy as KPD's have had the rest of the year together, hopefully so have Boyd and Shache, Richards too. The core is much stronger than 2014.

I agree with Jong, Honeychurch, Webb and Campbell and would look at 3 more during the trade and draft period

Keep playing the kids.

Tell me the advantage of bringing Dickson in over a kid?? People cannot be delusional enough to think we can make finals can they? So if MOST agree we won’t what is the point of bringing in blokes that are done or nearly done?

 

[BRWB]

Keep playing the kids.

Tell me the advantage of bringing Dickson in over a kid?? People cannot be delusional enough to think we can make finals can they? So if MOST agree we won’t what is the point of bringing in blokes that are done or nearly done?

Too much inexperience leads to Hell. Well the Dees under Neeld...

 

[dogwatch]

Keep playing the kids.

Tell me the advantage of bringing Dickson in over a kid?? People cannot be delusional enough to think we can make finals can they? So if MOST agree we won’t what is the point of bringing in blokes that are done or nearly done?

You'd also keep Morris in the VFL all season?

 

[Mattdougie]

You'd also keep Morris in the VFL all season?

Morris and Picken are the exceptions IF they can get right and playing them is as much respect as them helping the team.

 

[Southern 8]

Like the Schache/Boyd forward line tonight with Rough hopefully do majority rucking. Let's give these two a run at our forward line even if it doesn't happen for them for a while. Could be lethal once they gel and IF they can live up to potential or even get close to their potential.

 

[#1 Dogs Fan]

Schache can kick strait. wow thats a start !

 

[koshari]

Bring back beasley?

 

[lachy]

Get the ball in there at some stage would be good

 

[Sharkey66]

Midfield needs to get the ball first, playing a competitive ruckman wood be a good start.

 

[Yojimbo]

Stop playing blokes who can do nothing but kick the ball sidewards, waste of
everyone's time and gives the opposition an eternity to get numbers back.

 

[Mattdougie]

Bring back beasley?

Enjoy now coz the second half of the year won’t end well

Norf are shite they will fail no doubt at all

 

[Braybrook Son]

First half last night, we actually had a decent structure. What we desperately need is a genuine, quality small forward or two!

 

[Braybrook Son]

Like the Schache/Boyd forward line tonight with Rough hopefully do majority rucking. Let's give these two a run at our forward line even if it doesn't happen for them for a while. Could be lethal once they gel and IF they can live up to potential or even get close to their potential.

Yes, but not Roughead in the ruck. Complete liability and is finished. Tom Campbell or English when back from injury. Even Schache/Trengove/Boyd to share ruck.

 

[Dazb86]

We can by start making leads instead of standing stationary and pointing where they want the ball kicked.

It always inevitably ends up kicked long on top of their heads.

 

[footyfan000001]

Need some small speed in there so badly. How many times last night did it just come straight back out so easily?

 

[koshari]

Enjoy now coz the second half of the year won’t end well

Norf are shite they will fail no doubt at all

Chill out champ. Loved watching the beeze. Your opinion of norf pretty irrelevent regarding his ability. I think he kicked a lazy 8 against us one day.

Anyway play on.

 

[Bemoreboyddog]

New forwards coach. New development coach

 

[100action]

revert gameplan back to 2015 game plan
revert premiership coaches back to their original roles (i.e. winning combination)
and the hardest one is to recruit a reliable goal kicker (small or tall)