How do you fix rugby in Australia?

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I’m not sure the Saffers and Kiwis are to blame for how **** we are?

Union does not have a strong foundation at junior and club level - and it is not well supported by the ARU; until they address that, it’s wall paper.
 

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In reply to the heading; Sack the coach. Bring back Western Force. There you go.
Rather funny that is 2018 the Force had higher attendances than any of the Austrlian super rugby sides despite playing what were essentially just a series of friendlies.

Rugby Union has a long history and relatively good following WA, why they axed them instead of the Rebels is indicative of how much a basketcase the ARU are atm.

In all honesty though right now Australia doesnt have the talent to have four competitive Super Rugby teams, the pool is just too shallow.
 

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Needs to be a serious discussion between the various stakeholders of the game about moving to a trans tasman domestic rugby competition. 5 NZ teams, 5 Australian teams. Maybe Japan, but that brings in the huge travel factor.
 
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Needs to be a serious discussion between the various stakeholders of the game about moving to a trans tasman domestic rugby competition. 5 NZ teams, 5 Australian teams. Maybe Japan, but that brings in the huge travel factor.
NZ time and again have shown that they will put their own self interest first and pick the TV money that comes from South Africa. Rugby fans in this country forget that the biggest rival traditionally for the All Blacks are the Springboks, so the NZRU have no loyalty or interest in helping save Australian Rugby.

So if Super Rugby was to fall apart, the NZRU would sooner look after their own backyard and revert back to their own domestic competition than link up with Australia for a few extra dollars. They only play Super Rugby so they get the South African Dollar and regular matches against them.
 

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Twiggy should clear the debt and sell it as a 'hey look at me/look what RA did' PR exercise.

$1m isn't a lot in the grand scheme of things but the ongoing financial viability of RWA is a concern.

I would like to see a breakdown of where registration fees go. IIRC a percentage goes up the chain to the high performance end which is pretty insulting to WA community rugby players.
 

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Twiggy should clear the debt and sell it as a 'hey look at me/look what RA did' PR exercise.

$1m isn't a lot in the grand scheme of things but the ongoing financial viability of RWA is a concern.

I would like to see a breakdown of where registration fees go. IIRC a percentage goes up the chain to the high performance end which is pretty insulting to WA community rugby players.

Why pay the debt when he has his own league already.
 
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Problems run a lot deeper than the death of the Force. I have always believed we are stronger as 5 so this is by no means a dig at the Force.
Absolutely.

Currently rugby is like the VFL in 1989. Teams in NSW and Qld but not SA.

WA is the third biggest local competition and is not represented at SR level while ACT and Vic are.

NZ must giggle across the dutch. We had a whole process to choose between Perth and Melbourne from about 2003/4 and Perth won. Then Sanzaar said drop a team and RA caved and axed the Force because it was contractually easier. WA produces more players, gets better crowds from under half the population and got better results. And to make it even sillier there's a team in Canberra that just piggybacks off Qld/NSW anyway. Even WSR was more popular than the Rebels/Brumbies are.
 

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Absolutely.

Currently rugby is like the VFL in 1989. Teams in NSW and Qld but not SA.

WA is the third biggest local competition and is not represented at SR level while ACT and Vic are.

NZ must giggle across the dutch. We had a whole process to choose between Perth and Melbourne from about 2003/4 and Perth won. Then Sanzaar said drop a team and RA caved and axed the Force because it was contractually easier. WA produces more players, gets better crowds from under half the population and got better results. And to make it even sillier there's a team in Canberra that just piggybacks off Qld/NSW anyway. Even WSR was more popular than the Rebels/Brumbies are.
Rugby has problems in every market it’s in, I love the Rebels but I don’t know about them at the moment there are 3 Vics regularly getting a game at the Brumbies. How? How have they been let go? The pathways in Vic and the game at a junior level is growing with new clubs opening up. But then on the other hand the senior comp is shrinking.

On a positive note we have had 5 vics play for the Rebels this year and one who only misses through injury.

I know you don’t want to sell out but I think we need to sign up for the World league the income that would generate for Australian rugby would be massive. With that money we could stop talented juniors defecting to the NRL helping to raise the standards of the Super sides

A big positive is the junior wallabies, the academy system they have put in place to keep young talent in the game seems to be working hopefully they can back this performance up in the coming years
 
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I know you don’t want to sell out but I think we need to sign up for the World league the income that would generate for Australian rugby would be massive.
A World League isn’t going to happen. It’s more likely that the English sell off their Premiership to Private Equity which is followed by the 6 Nations doing likewise for that competition so that they don’t have to introduce promotion/regulation which leaves SAANZA holding the can once again.

The Northern Unions aren’t interested in helping out the Southern Unions and that’s why the awful plan for a World League got leaked.
 
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