How is it that we've come to contracted players nominating clubs?

[rmcq]

Frankly they should just do away with the term contract and call them gentlemen's agreements.


Really? These players are breaking their contracts and getting to not only do that but chose where they go. The whole point of my post you quoted the above in.

So, again, what are the consequences of a player breaking his contract and going to the club of his choice?

No one is breaking a contract. They are terminated by mutual agreement between club and player.

 

[Sauras]

No one is breaking a contract. They are terminated by mutual agreement between club and player.

Of course they are..

 

[rmcq]

Of course they are..

Give me one example of this happening.

How about Carlton refusing to let their player go to Adelaide? That’s how it works.

 

[DirtySandman]

Geelong only have one bidder to work with since he nominated West Coast

So pretty much like every trade made.

 

[HairyO]

I understand nominating a city and think that it's only fair that even contacted players can nominate one.

Nominating a specific club, however, I do not like. Players should be forced to accepting a trade to any club provided it is in their city of choice.

Kelly is a good example. Geelong only have one bidder to work with since he nominated West Coast and it fu**s Geelong's negotiating position.

Kelly isnt contracted so he is a bad example.

He did his 2 years and is free to go.

Hawthorn let Hill go for family reasons. Maybe he is more grown up now and is chasing money. Whether or not true, we didnt stop him and probably took slight unders. In theory Freo will return the favour some day.

Clubs dont own players. If the AFLPA wanted, they go to court and all these restraints of trade disappear. But they dont because the handshake agreement makes everyone richer.

 

[Damon_3388]

Kids can always stay home and play state league footy if they want, they don't have to enter the draft. It's unfortunate it happens at 18 but doing 2 years service in your non proffered location for a minimum of 100k is a pretty good entry level deal. There's a lot of industries that ask employees to do shift work, move to rural or even remote locations and don't pay half as much as AFL football does.

Pretty sweet deal straight out of HS with no real qualifications, earning high five-low six figures based on what you might become someday. Having to move away from home (into accommodation that is likely organised for you and subsidised too) for a couple of years at that age is a pretty small price to pay.

 

[FRUMPY]

Clubs are weak as s**t

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[Kwality]

Nothing wrong with a player requesting a trade to a particular club because the current club can hold him to it.

If i am a Hawthorn player and i want to request a trade to the Lions and only the Lions i should have every right to make that request, but if the Hawks can not come to a trade they are happy with they can just hold them. Nominating a club is not an issue because the clubs are not forced to trade them.

Wear the consequences of your action both the player & the club.
Any chance the media ask every club who are driving the trades, the player managers?

 

[100action]

Sometimes one just has to lol at Australia's labour laws.

The measures people think protect them has well and truly blinded them to the hidden opportunity cost of their own unforetold prosperity.

 

[Kwality]

Pretty sweet deal straight out of HS with no real qualifications, earning high five-low six figures based on what you might become someday. Having to move away from home (into accommodation that is likely organised for you and subsidised too) for a couple of years at that age is a pretty small price to pay.

Wont ever work for everyone e.g Mrs Kelly.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Players have too much power and the contract isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. Until clubs get the ability to trade contracts similar to US sports then this farcical situation will continue.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

I also wonder how much of this is players on front loaded contracts who get to the final year when there isn’t so much $ coming in and wanting out.

 

[ShadeyP]

Way too much Player Power in this league !!!

 

[Kwality]

Hawthorn let Hill go for family reasons. Maybe he is more grown up now and is chasing money. Whether or not true, we didnt stop him

Like Kelly, the lady in his life, real world stuff.

Then there are the likes of Charlie Cameron, u18s for WA, folks in WA, goes home to Brisbane. Doesnt fit the narrow focus of BF but 100% legit.

 

[SloppyJoe]

If the club can't sort out whatever the issue is that makes the contracted player not want to be there, then it can try work out a deal with the nominated club.

If a deal can be done, fine.

If not, then the player stays.

Tim Kelly is the obvious example. Geelong couldn't sort out his issues, couldn't get the deal they wanted, he stayed another year and was AA.

What's the problem?

 

[SunshineBoy]

So basically players who willingly signed a contract should be allowed to not only break it but also chose the terms of how they break it....meanwhile kids get indentured to all corners of the country through the draft and that's OK.

I thought signing up kids to sweep your chimney died out two centuries ago.

Garry Ablett board >>>>>>>>>>

 

[Damon_3388]

Wont ever work for everyone e.g Mrs Kelly.

Mr and Mrs Kelly aren't coming into it at age 18 and childless, either. Special circumstance.

 

[TryAnHit]

Players should be able to nominate a state and a contract...
Whatever club wants to meet that then its up to the club to get the best deal for them

 

[quotemokc]

I also wonder how much of this is players on front loaded contracts who get to the final year when there isn’t so much $ coming in and wanting out.

Was just about to ask this.

Make player salaries public.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

What's the consequence for a contracted player breaking his contract and going to the club of his choice?

Ask Cam McCarthy

 

[Demonic Ascent]

I also wonder how much of this is players on front loaded contracts who get to the final year when there isn’t so much $ coming in and wanting out.

That was part of Carlton's rationale for refusing to trade Gibbs wasn't it? I'd say it's a significant factor.

 

[Dr Awkward]

Yeah, there's too much power in the hands of the players. The AFLPA always campaign for stuff that is actually worse for the fans and the game overall

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Yeah, there's too much power in the hands of the players. The AFLPA always campaign for stuff that is actually worse for the fans and the game overall

AFLPA like any union are there to represent what is in the best interest of the players and could care less what happens to the game.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Because the AFL are a lawsuit away from their whole system collapsing. The AFLPA doesn't have tremendous power just because the AFL doesn't care, but because they have them over a barrel.

But I don't know why anyone would want a player at their club who has publicly requested to leave. Kelly having an AA season would suggest it doesn't always matter but I'd be getting them out ASAP.

 

[PP34]

The whinging about players nominating clubs is hilarious. It’s never going to change. Get over it.

You could allow clubs to trade players wherever they like, similar to the NBA and they’d still manage to have power and most would end up at their preferred club.