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Just a quick word - I really like your posts on these boards👍🏼 - but mate, thanks for nothing last week !!!

WTF !!!!😂
Puffers are unbearable atm!
LOL! Yes it wasn’t the best night that’s for sure 😂 To be honest, I had ominous feelings going into the game, we are a structured team with a line up that doesn’t alter much regardless of the conditions. Unfortunately, we didn’t adjust accordingly and Port were able to take full advantage. Wasn’t surprised by losing, the margin yes. But they outplayed us fair and square.

Aww, that’s nice, the faith in Ken has returned? Very good :p
Not sure that they should be too overconfident, they do tend to have some good results early in the season. Will it last? Much like the purple brethren here, it doesn’t take much to get them excited. Bless em 😀
 

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Fourth rounder but only if we keep paying some of his salary.

Good teams won’t want him because he is cooked.

Bad teams won’t want him because he is not a role model for young players.

Best case is someone who has convinced themselves they are almost a contender and need a missing piece, like a North Melbourne. They might take him for a late pick just to see what happens.
Travis Cloke. Cooked. Melb might take him. They are delusional enough to think they are in the premiership window.. Need a forward after Hogan left.
 
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Jesus Ben. I was there and witnessed it with my own eyes. Purveying fake news. You should be in politics.
WTF. Didn't see his game, but 11 disposals and no goals doesn't seem like a strong performance.

If he's back in this week we know for sure that the AFC are taking the piss.
 
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I’d take all of them over Jenkins.

Your call on Ben Brown is insane, and from what I saw Mackay’s blinder on the weekend was rather ominous.
Ben Brown is a one dimensional player at the moment. Hopeless in ruck, nothing once it hits the deck.

A very good lead and mark forward but outside of that...
 

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Jenkins current situation is why some of us would say not to judge his performances solely on the number of goals he kicks. Forwards can do more to help their team than just score, and that's what they need to fall back on when they're going through a lean patch.
 
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Jenkins current situation is why some of us would say not to judge his performances solely on the number of goals he kicks. Forwards can do more to help their team than just score, and that's what they need to fall back on when they're going through a lean patch.
The problem with JJ is he has no game craft outside of kicking goals. He never has.

More natural footballers can go through lean patches and still contribute, but JJ needs to kick goals otherwise he just looks like a goon out there making life harder for his teammates
 

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Jenkins current situation is why some of us would say not to judge his performances solely on the number of goals he kicks. Forwards can do more to help their team than just score, and that's what they need to fall back on when they're going through a lean patch.
Like competing against two players bringing the ball down then laying a handball to running Mid,
A low down grab then quick handball to a running Mid,
Maybe a good pass to a running defender just on 50.
While JJ was Bad we forget the goals he set up with some good Play.
 
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For all those writing off JJ he has been about the league leader in the tall forward/ruck category for the past few seasons. Yes he's had a bad start to the year but then again, go and do a side by side comparison with the Captain up until last week, Walker has been terrible as well.

When criticising JJ, people need to compare him to some of the other similar tall forward/rucks. I am not comparing him to the key forwards as that is unfair, so no Kennedy comparisons .
Ben Brown - the guy is great on the lead but does nothing else, prefer JJ
Eric Hipwood - huge talent, prefer to JJ
Harry Mackay - emerging, line ball
Dixon - too much of a knob
Mason Vox - nope

Overall JJ is still top 5 in the league in that tall forward/ruck category

But he needs a spell to get angry, do some damage and come back stronger
Agree

I’m not writing him off I just want him to be desperate to get his spot back and start playing like he wants to keep it

Fire up - and shut up!
 

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Still can't believe that Brisbane offered a straight trade of Jenkins for Rockliff and we said no.

If we got Rocky we wouldn't have had to get Gibbs, would have had 2 extra first round picks and would have gotten more games into a bloke like Foggarty
 

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Yes he should want to keep Himmelberg out.
But he is a supposed leader of the club. He should be helping to groom the next generation. Publicly voicing his distaste at being dropped when he himself admits he is out of form is him admitting he doesn't want to see these guys develop until he is retired. He should be gunning to get his spot back but he should feel no entitlement to keep his spot when underperforming.

It makes me think that Himmelberg has very little support from a senior player whose role he is being groomed for in the future. No way in JJ mentoring him the way a senior leader of the club should be (which some may think is a good thing in JJs case)
We can only hope that he isn't mentoring Himmelberg.
 
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What would Jenkins get in a trade, or what would you accept?

Obviously how much salary remains on his contract and who is paying it affects things.

Late 2nd rounder? would anyone pay that, especially given the way he is most likely up for trade is if Berg goes well and that would mean JJ spends a lot of time in the SANFL?

There would still be several clubs who could use him.
I feel like if it was to happen it would be a similar deal to Scully last year, basically just a token 4th round pick to move him on. We would need to take on a chunk of his remaining salary i would have thought if it was to happen.
 

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What would Jenkins get in a trade, or what would you accept?

Obviously how much salary remains on his contract and who is paying it affects things.

Late 2nd rounder? would anyone pay that, especially given the way he is most likely up for trade is if Berg goes well and that would mean JJ spends a lot of time in the SANFL?

There would still be several clubs who could use him.
It actually wouldn’t surprise me if Hawthorn came knocking re Jenkins. They’ve been hitting the trade table pretty heavily the last couple of years so Clarko clearly doesn’t want to go the full fledged rebuild, but appear to be a little unsure re their 2nd ruck situation. Recruited Vickery, but that failed and currently oscillating between Ceglar as 2nd ruck/forward and using Roughead as 2nd ruck, they also like to throw Gunston through defence at times. O’Brien hasn’t come on as hoped.

I could see Clarkson identifying Jenkins as the player he needs and backing himself to get the best out of him. I’d expect we’d end up paying some salary, but might wrangle a mid-late 2nd out of it.
 

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For me most likely Trade destinations;

WB- Playing WA KPD Naughton as their Key forward and some guy named English as their ruck. Seems an ideal fit

Sydney- Something tells me the wheels will finally fall off this offseason. Cue mass exodus of Non NSW players, will need to bring in someone in with a profile to save face.

GWS- Only if they lose Kelly/Conoglio and Mummy retires again they will have cap space for days and no-one to use it on. And his 199cm small forward game style would probably fit the ‘Orange Tsunami’ gameplan

St Kilda- If Paddy McCartin retires due to Concussion issues they’re forward line although talented is still predominately small and medium sized players. Plus they’ve recruited worse (Hannebery)

North- Just because they seem to take anyone who will go there!

Still if anyone of them offers us a 2nd for him, you start the car and laugh your way too the bank!
 

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What would Jenkins get in a trade, or what would you accept?

Obviously how much salary remains on his contract and who is paying it affects things.

Late 2nd rounder? would anyone pay that, especially given the way he is most likely up for trade is if Berg goes well and that would mean JJ spends a lot of time in the SANFL?

There would still be several clubs who could use him.
I wouldn't expect much,especially if we aren't paying any of his salary. 5-6 spit uograde to our second rounder might be a good enough result.
 

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Still can't believe that Brisbane offered a straight trade of Jenkins for Rockliff and we said no.

If we got Rocky we wouldn't have had to get Gibbs, would have had 2 extra first round picks and would have gotten more games into a bloke like Foggarty
Impressive, that was wrong on all accounts.

Whilst I wouldn't have minded Rocky, we had his type of inside midfielder well covered. We severely lacked the player Gibbs is/was depending on if he can find that end of Carlton era form of a in/out midfielder with a lot of class. So that deal would have most likely still happened, no matter what. Even if we had Gibbs well covered, you still do it if you could because it makes a midfield much more deeper and premierships are won and lost in the midfield.

Not only that, but us having, or not having Jenkins has no impact whatsoever on Fogarty getting gametime. If it did, he would have played last week because he is a better prospect then Himmelberg. To get Fogarty gametime, Tex or Lynch are the pieces which need to be moved.
 
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I think he's worth more than people are stating here.
Yes, and no. In an ideal world, absolutely. He has enough exposed form to warrant a 2nd round pick, maybe even a late first with something going back the other way.

In the current world where we have a 31 year old forward with two years left on his contract, at quite likely an above average wage, and us desperately needing to free up forward spots, he is worth practically nothing (as the value to the club is simply just getting him off our payroll). You don't hold out demanding the world when you're trading to shed salary cap, you take whatever you can get and run.

Similar to the Lyons, or the Scully trade. It's not a case of getting full value, it's the case of getting rid of someone who has potential to be a drain on the salary cap with no real value returning to the club due to the position needed for something else/depth only option/injuries have potentially ruined.
 

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Poholke on going back to SANFL
“We’ve got a lot of talent up there in the top end, so I’ve just got to continually learn off them and just keep putting numbers on the board,” he said.
“I’ll keep putting my hand up, keep stringing performances together and keep causing headaches for the selection committee going forward.”

Now that’s a great attitude even though he was disappointed to be dropped
Jenkins could learn a bit
 

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Fourth rounder but only if we keep paying some of his salary.

Good teams won’t want him because he is cooked.

Bad teams won’t want him because he is not a role model for young players.

Best case is someone who has convinced themselves they are almost a contender and need a missing piece, like a North Melbourne. They might take him for a late pick just to see what happens.
Port? They seem to go for that type of player. Mind you they’ve got so many “missing pieces” they could finish a few puzzles!
 
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Jenkin's value would be based upon finding the right buyer; team close to the flag, but lacking a decent KPF/Ruck option - and betting they can get Jenkins to perform consistently (which he has done in previous year).

Similar to the Gibbs trade; he's not worth what we paid for him - but, due to our position, that was his value to us.

Poholke on going back to SANFL
“We’ve got a lot of talent up there in the top end, so I’ve just got to continually learn off them and just keep putting numbers on the board,” he said.
“I’ll keep putting my hand up, keep stringing performances together and keep causing headaches for the selection committee going forward.”


Now that’s a great attitude even though he was disappointed to be dropped
Jenkins could learn a bit
I'm really warming to this lad.
 

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Port? They seem to go for that type of player. Mind you they’ve got so many “missing pieces” they could finish a few puzzles!
Can you imagine them on Survivor ?
Motlop would have sat out every immunity challenge and opt for burgers pizza and beers when offered
When the puzzle challenges come up Dixon would be hiding the final puzzle piece in his bl##dy beard forgetting it was there
:(
 
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