Analysis How many live picks will your club take to the 2021 draft?

[Chaisa]

OK, seriously.

I think the front page post has mistakenly included the Senegalese player (Bassirou Faye) who's on an international scholarship as a Category B rookie. In which case another player (I think it would be Mark Keane the Irishman) is actually the Cat B rookie - leaving a vacant spot that has been used on Charlie Dean.

Yeah I guess that's probably the most likely scenario. Though Keane was on the Cat A list last year I thought?

I guess we'll wait and see when the lists are finalised on Monday.

 

[Giant Strides]

My understanding was Keane was on the Cat A list and Tohill (and Wilson) were the two Cat B rookies in 2021.

You may be right, but probably as a result of having two Irishmen on their list - only 1 can be counted as Cat B (is my understanding). So Tohill was recorded as Cat B and Keane as Cat A - but when Tohill departed, Keane was presumably recategorised as Cat B rookie. Problem is that AFL House never announce these things - it's just an interpretation.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

You may be right, but probably as a result of having two Irishmen on their list - only 1 can be counted as Cat B (is my understanding). So Tohill was recorded as Cat B and Keane as Cat A - but when Tohill departed, Keane was presumably recategorised as Cat B rookie. Problem is that AFL House never announce these things - it's just an interpretation.

Yeah, it used to all be published but these days it’s mugs like us trying to piece everything together.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

You may be right, but probably as a result of having two Irishmen on their list - only 1 can be counted as Cat B (is my understanding). So Tohill was recorded as Cat B and Keane as Cat A - but when Tohill departed, Keane was presumably recategorised as Cat B rookie. Problem is that AFL House never announce these things - it's just an interpretation.

Is there any chance Collingwood quietly delisted one of their mid-season rookies and that’s where the extra spot has come from? I didn’t know they’d delisted Chugg til he was redrafted today.

 

[Giant Strides]

Is there any chance Collingwood quietly delisted one of their mid-season rookies and that’s where the extra spot has come from? I didn’t know they’d delisted Chugg til he was redrafted today.

While I could cynically say, with the AFL anything's possible, no I don't believe that's the case.

Here's the AFL.com.au list of Pies list changes - Isaac Chugg is included and I was aware of his delisting. No-one is a surprise inclusion on that list; their mid-season pick-up Ash Johnson is not on the list, and indeed Footywire still lists him as a Collingwood player. So I think that theory is very unlikely.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

While I could cynically say, with the AFL anything's possible, no I don't believe that's the case.

Here's the AFL.com.au list of Pies list changes - Isaac Chugg is included and I was aware of his delisting. No-one is a surprise inclusion on that list; their mid-season pick-up Ash Johnson is not on the list, and indeed Footywire still lists him as a Collingwood player. So I think that theory is very unlikely.

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Yeah after some quick Googling, it appears Chugg’s delisting was announced at the same time as Sier and Rantall and I just didn’t absorb it.

I think your explanation is most likely - Keane and Wilson are the Cat B’s and Faye is an international scholarship holder who won’t actually be on the list in 2022. I think that’s the only way a spot to draft Dean opens up.

 

[Ants]

Cheers. Here's my numbers. Anyone spot any errors, let me know.

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Essendon: 39: 35 seniors plus 4 Cat A rookies (Baldwin, Durham, Snelling, Waterman), plus 2 Cat B rookies (Hird, McBride). Need 1 senior plus can take 2 rookies after that
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Essendon only took the one rookie, so we now have 2 vacancies that can be filled via the PSS or MSD. Which is a similar position to last year, where we used PSS picks on Waterman and Baldwin.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Essendon only took the one rookie, so we now have 2 vacancies that can be filled via the PSS or MSD. Which is a similar position to last year, where we used PSS picks on Waterman and Baldwin.

Dylan Clarke is one that is training in the hope of getting one of those spots isn’t he?

 

[Ants]

Dylan Clarke is one that is training in the hope of getting one of those spots isn’t he?

When he was delisted it was said he might get back on. But I don't know if he's actually training with us. Selecting Hobbs would be a blow to his chances as Hobbs is pretty much a direct upgrade for Clarke, playing the same role. With Hobbs, our need for Clarke as depth is pretty minimal.

I think most Essendon fans will be hoping we're asking all the small forwards we can to come train with us, since that's our main hole in the list (depth behind Walla/Snelling/Smith).

 

[Lore]

Final Club Playing Lists Following Rookie Draft

 

[Davo-27]

Cheers. Here's my numbers. Anyone spot any errors, let me know.

Adelaide: 40: 35 seniors plus 5 Cat A rookies (Butts, Keays, Murray, Parnell, Strachan), plus 2 Cat B rookies (Borlase, Newchurch). Need 1 senior plus can take 1 rookie
Brisbane: 41: 38 seniors plus 3 Cat A rookies (Lane, Madden, Mathieson), plus 2 Cat B rookies (Michael, Uosis). Will use last spot to redraft CEY
Carlton: 40: 36 seniors plus 4 Cat A rookies (Boyd, McDonald, Mirkov, Parks), plus 1 Cat B rookie (Owies). Will use last two spots to redraft Cottrell and O'Brien
Collingwood: 42: 36 seniors plus 6 Cat A rookies (Begg, Chugg, Ginnivan, Johnson, Keane, Noble), plus 2 Cat B rookies (Faye, Wilson). Maxed out
Essendon: 39: 35 seniors plus 4 Cat A rookies (Baldwin, Durham, Snelling, Waterman), plus 2 Cat B rookies (Hird, McBride). Need 1 senior plus can take 2 rookies after that
Fremantle: 39: 36 seniors plus 3 Cat A rookies (Banfield, Schultz, Treacy), plus 1 Cat B rookie (Kelm). Will redraft Crowden and Blakely, can take 1 more.
Geelong: 40: 38 seniors plus 2 Cat A rookies (Atkins, Close), plus 2 Cat B rookis (Mullin, Tsapatolis). Can take 2 rookies
Gold Coast: 44: 37 seniors plus 7 rookies. I believe they're allowed 49 max so can take 5 picks, two of which will be redrafting Thompson and McLennan.
GWS Giants: 42: 36 seniors plus 4 Cat A rookies (Lloyd, Peatling, Sproule, Stein), plus 2 Cat B rookies (Brown, Shaw). Will redraft Wehr, can take 1 more.
Hawthorn: 40: 34 seniors plus 6 Cat A rookies (Bramble, Callow, Jeka, Moore, Newcombe, Saunders), plus 1 Cat B rookie (O'Hara) . Need 2 seniors.
Melbourne: 41: 36 seniors plus 5 Cat A rookies (Brown, Chandler, Daw, Smith, Turner). Can take 1 more.
North Melbourne: 40: 37 seniors plus 3 Cat A rookies (Edwards, Hayden, P.Walker), plus 1 Cat B rookie (McGuinness). Will redraft Polec, can take 1 more.
Port Adelaide: 40: 37 seniors plus 3 Cat A rookies (McEntee, Pasini, Schofield). Will redraft Mayes, can take 1 more.
Richmond: 41: 35 seniors (including Cumberland) plus 6 Cat A rookies (Aarts, Mansell, Miller, Parker, Pickett, Stack), plus 1 Cat B rookie (Colina). Have to elevate one of those 6, then redraft Nyuon. That's them maxed out.
St Kilda: 40: 36 seniors plus 4 Cat A rookies (Heath, Joyce, Sherman, Wood). Can take 2 more.
Sydney: 40: 36 seniors plus 4 Cat A rookies (Fox, McAndrew, McLean, Wicks), plus 2 Cat B rookies (O'Connor, Sheather). Can take 2 more.
West Coast:41: 38 seniors plus 3 Cat A rookies (Jones, Trew, West). Can take 1 more. Also I'm assuming Jarrod Cameron's delisted but the club's never announced it.
Bulldogs: 40: 35 seniors plus 5 Cat A rookies (Gardner, McNeil, Scott, R.Smith, Sweet), plus 1 Cat B rookie (Khamis). Need 1 senior and can take 1 rookie after that.

for Hawthorn, Bramble and Moore likely to get upgraded, which leaves us 2 rookie spots open for PSS pick ups or DFA's?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

for Hawthorn, Bramble and Moore likely to get upgraded, which leaves us 2 rookie spots open for PSS pick ups or DFA's?

AFL has put up the lists: https://www.afl.com.au/news/689918/every-clubs-full-afl-list-after-november-29-2021-deadline

Hawks upgraded Jeka and Moore, Bombers upgraded Snelling. Who else were we confused about? Oh, Bulldogs upgraded Gardner.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

OK, seriously.

I think the front page post has mistakenly included the Senegalese player (Bassirou Faye) who's on an international scholarship as a Category B rookie. In which case another player (I think it would be Mark Keane the Irishman) is actually the Cat B rookie - leaving a vacant spot that has been used on Charlie Dean.

And this was correct - Keane and Wilson are Cat B rookies, Faye is not on the list.

 

[Giant Strides]

And this was correct - Keane and Wilson are Cat B rookies, Faye is not on the list.

Now, that list published by the AFL today is useful!

 

[ex afl players]

Is there a updated version of this for season 2024 the best info ever

 

[The Nostradamus]

North will have 7
5-6 in ND
1-2 in rookie/dfa

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Is there a updated version of this for season 2024 the best info ever

Analysis - How many live picks will your team take to the 2023 draft>

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