How much better do you feel now that the AFL has issued another 'oopsie'?

[FR0GGY]

Hang on... AFL saying he should've been paid the mark, but failing that he also should've been paid a free.

So the umpire missed two obvious things in the same incident?

You cannot make this up.

Yes anyone with 1 functioning eye and half an idea on the rules knew this.

 

[FR0GGY]

I’m betting the umpires from the weekend were sanfl umpires.

 

[Scorpus]

The other poster is taking the piss. It can’t be a serious suggestion.

What’s the legal basis for legal action besides annoyed club and supporters? What rules or laws of the game allow us to sue them for a bad decision in general play with 1:40 left on the clock.

Answer = zero

And taking such action means we would get screwed every single eek going forwars

Not all legal action is designed to win the case

 

[adelaidecrows]

While it is meaningless in regards to the result, what it does do is further embarrass the AFL as its now 5 times in just over 2 seasons these decisions have impacted the result. So the AL which prides itself on having high umpiring standards cant say it if they continue to allow substandard end of game umpiring that is clearly going against one team. So what I am hoping this does is prompt the AFL into giving the umpiring department a rocket into doing better. There is packing away the whistle in tight games and then there is letting blatant frees go, all conveniently against us. Part of it is umpires I think wanting to be a hero in front of a home crowd. Except the goal umpire, that was a clear bonehead decision.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Not all legal action is designed to win the case

There really is no compensation we can ask for because there is no certainty he would have either kicked a goal or they couldnt have scored in the remaining time. There was enough time on the clock.

 

[Scorpus]

There really is no compensation we can ask for because there is no certainty he would have either kicked a goal or they couldnt have scored in the remaining time. There was enough time on the clock.

This is in relation to the Ben Keays disallowed goal. Obviously we can't sue after the Gold Coast game because the outcome of the free is unclear

 

[adelaidecrows]

This is in relation to the Ben Keays disallowed goal. Obviously we can't sue after the Gold Coast game because the outcome of the free is unclear

oh yeah but there was also enough time too after the keays no goal where Sydney could have scored. There was over a minute from memory. So none of it was on the siren which means there is nothing we can do.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Not all legal action is designed to win the cases

Yeah, they are all designed to line lawyers pockets.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I’m betting the umpires from the weekend were sanfl umpires.

I'm betting they will be umpiring finals.

 

[119others]

Not all legal action is designed to win the case

There’s no basis for legal action

 

[Viva la Mattner]

My dad has a theory
John Reid sold his soul to the devil for 97/98 and until he dies we’ll continue to suffer

He’s joking of course

 

[Samcro24]

He’s joking of course

Yeah

We’ll still be suffering long after JR is gone

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Did they say anything about the wrong player taking the free kick, when the umpire couldn't be bothered doing any umpiring?

Not that it matters

We're not a Victorian lovechild in need of a boost or an emerging market darling needing a helping hand

If we're to win anything ever it will need to be whilst copping an absolute reaming

 

[beartoo]

You think clubs can threaten the AFL?

Seriously?

The AFL are a law to themselves (except when they lost control.of managing the Essendon drugs scandal).

Eddy Maguire made the point 6 months after we got shafted against Sydney that if had happened to Collingwood the AFL would still have been in court.

 

[George CantStandYa]

What was more concerning was not just the Rankine non-call, but clearly the umpires gave the Suns a great run in the last 5 minutes when the game was on the line.

I don't believe in coincidences...

Was more than the last 5 mins

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Was more than the last 5 mins

To be fair, I was watching the replay after a very big night... but you just add to my argument that it was more than just the 1 decision, as the umpires lifted once again when the game was on the line.

 

[FR0GGY]

I can understand why people be taking guns to the footy now.

 

[Miss Vanessa]

I’m honestly not sure how to feel about it all. Umpires will continue to make mistakes - we’ve just happened to cop some doozies over the last couple of years that has cost the club plenty. I’m sure in years to come we will probably be the beneficiaries of some dicey last minute calls too, but that’s hardly comforting in the here and now.

So what can actually be done? Demanding better umps is almost pointless. Refs/Umps in some of the highest profile sporting leagues in the world make decisions that pundits and fans can’t agree on with the benefit of slow motion replays from multiple angles. What chance does a single individual have when making split second decisions live? Mistakes and questionable calls will remain part of the game.

Perhaps provide captains with a single challenge each quarter to dispute crappy calls? Then when you absolutely know you’ve been dudded you can make a challenge… but stopping the game for those type of scenarios have their own drawbacks too. Has any sport in the world got a video referral system that works without much drama? Tennis perhaps? But then you’re only adjudicating in/out scenarios, not questions of interpretation…

TLDR: the game is a mess to umpire and mistakes are par for the course. It sucks, but what can you do?

 

[Crow till I die]

I don't believe in conspiracies but it is effing unbelievable that we can be on the wrong end of so many blatantly wrong calls that cost us games. This one has stopped us going 10-0

This doesn't happen to other clubs. Imagine if it was the Pies copping the run of game costing errors that we've copped.

Also haven't forgotten the too harsh penalties for Tippetgate or the disgraceful pressuring of the club to sack Matt Rendell who then gets employed by the lucky Pies six months later!

AFL is still the VFL - corrupt bastards

IF that happened under Eddie's tenure, he would have rained hell on the AFL over it. I wish we had a president that would bleed for our club. Bring the heat on the AFL so it absolutely comes to a head and be prepared to use the legal side to defend the club if needed

 

[Crow till I die]

oh yeah but there was also enough time too after the keays no goal where Sydney could have scored. There was over a minute from memory. So none of it was on the siren which means there is nothing we can do.

The legal action in that game would have been to have forced a replay or the last minute or so since the shot to have been replayed with us in the lead. There are pleny of avenues we could have pressed for. How about loss of revenue for missing finals, what about loss of amenity for denying players the opportunity to play finals. It would have forced the AFL to come up with a real plan to prevent the rankine debacle from the weekend deciding another game. But yet here we are copping it up the backside again and nothing changes

 

[adelaidecrows]

The legal action in that game would have been to have forced a replay or the last minute or so since the shot to have been replayed with us in the lead. There are pleny of avenues we could have pressed for. How about loss of revenue for missing finals, what about loss of amenity for denying players the opportunity to play finals. It would have forced the AFL to come up with a real plan to prevent the rankine debacle from the weekend deciding another game. But yet here we are copping it up the backside again and nothing changes

unfortunately part and parcel of the game is to accept the umpires decision and thats the fabric of the game. If we take legal action refusing to accept a result, then where does the line get drawn. How far back do you argue for decisions. Ultimately its just one poor decision. But the game is literally littered with multiple non decisions, wrong decisions and even 50s that werent 50s that gift a goal. This is why it makes zero sense to argue just one decision. It will never ever hold up in court. Not at all. All we can do is merely petition the afl to be better. And there is zero chance of a replay being granted or an extra 5 minutes. There is more chance of Musk knocking on my door and gifting me a billion dollars for being a good citizen. So we need to get out of this victim mindset of running to court to fix this problem because i hate to tell you, wed be laughed at.

 

[Pilchard_Adams]

There really is no compensation we can ask for because there is no certainty he would have either kicked a goal or they couldnt have scored in the remaining time. There was enough time on the clock.

The play on in the goal square is a certainty. At the time of the rankine mark Gold Coast were gifted a 2nd chance at a goal that should never have happened.

 

[Captain Furious]

“While we accept umpires make mistakes, the Adelaide Football Club can no longer accept the long line of blatantly incorrect umpiring decisions at crucial moments that have cost the club wins and finals appearances in recent years. We will be launching a far reaching independent investigation into the wider situation which will also encompass the umpires themselves. At this point, we are not ruling our legal action that involves compensation and potentially the removal of the offending umpires from the AFL system”.

What Tim Silvers should’ve said. It doesn’t commit to anything specific but lets the footballing world know we wont accept this bullshit anymore. I do not think there’s any conspiracy to deny or benefit certain clubs through umpiring decisions but umpires are human and we do not matter to them as much as other clubs. Does Nick Daicos get paid that mark/free kick? Absolutely he does. Time to let them know they need to tread very, very carefully with us from this point on.

 

[radiojake]

Did they say anything about the wrong player taking the free kick, when the umpire couldn't be bothered doing any umpiring?

it was pretty funny how egregious that was, Brad Johnson in the commentary box instinctively just let out 'you can't do that!' before being reminded or tapped on the shoulder about pointing out wrong decisions

 

[Punchy Bassett]

You know what will be funny? Umpire appreciation round will be a home game for us.