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Prediction How Will The Cats Fare in 2025?
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Eh, it's a football opinion site - he/she is allowed to have one. Let's face it, all of our opinions here are unnecessary - it's just a bit of fun.
No one more than I encourages a person to have an opinion iameviljez: and in our current 'sheepish world' I'd wish more people actually could form their 'own opinions' 'by thinking for themselves'. But with that comes a form of evidenced and factually based responsibility of which if not monitored, filtered and go unchecked can then lead us to a 'world of misinformation' and it's at that point, even here on Geelong BigFooty that I'll draw a line and have my say of which I fully expect certain individuals not take too kindly to. But at the very least they know where they stand and who they are dealing with both now and the future..... coz I for one will 'never change'.
PS - there are many posts iameviljez: that I 'have fun' with fellow Geelong BigFooty members coz there's nothing better than a little Aussie banter but once again there are lines 'for all of us' that we cannot overstep and a reason to why we have moderators.
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Ripping article. way more nuance then half the rubbish by better know commentators.
love this " A seemingly inexhaustible supply of tall blonde dudes wins the ball from the opposition in the air"
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3-1 needed from games against West Coast (a), Gold Coast (h), Essendon (a) and Brisbane (h). I think it's achievable.
We can come home with a wet sail after that and be right there fighting for a top 4 position.
Mr Meow:..... I'm surprised so many Geelong Bigfooty Cat fans have been so negative towards the team when we've lost games this year of which I have 'politely and positively' responded to some telling them so, which included mentioning that having 4 top backs out at one time was a huge blow.... for things are never as bad or good as they seem. Not with-standing a terrible injury run, we've had a top 4 side before the first ball was bounced in the opening round Mr Meow: with Bailey Smith being the one HUGE bonus who has become absolutely elite in a hurry, with both him and Max Holmes becoming 'a dynamic and scintillating duo' which was to be predicted by many. Making sure we manage 'Danger to the nth degree' leading up to finals is PARAMOUNT because we do now have this excellent blend of experience but also with the 'many younger players' coming through the system who are 'extremely talented and athletic' and as a 'combined team unit' we're really suited to the vast expanses of the MCG with our band of talented and youngish runners.
ADDED BONUS:
I'm still very hopeful of both Toby Conway and Tanner Bruhn playing a contributing role in the back half of season but also with the likes of Jack Martin who is definitely an 'X factor' player of which the club is giving him every opportunity to get his body right and of course Cam Guthrie would be the icing on cake
if his body holds up but we can only wish Cam 'the best of luck'. So all in all Mr Meow: with our extremely soft draw in the latter part of year and with a reasonable injury run, I'd reckon we're as good as chance as any team at having a shot at the flag.... and with top 4 far more likely than not.Younger players on the edge... Mitch Nevitt, Ted Clohesy, Jhye Clark, George Stevens - best of luck boys!
PS - Fan of Brad Close over journey but his game against Dogs at Cattery was borderline 'droppable'.... for he really does need to 'bee-line' the ball and toughen up, just played way to soft for my liking, so I'm looking at Brad bouncing back which I'm sure he will.
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Gold Coast and Essendon are weirdly the danger games for me.
WCE we will have a comfortable 40ish point win, because we are a better squad but I expect Reid to have his best game of the season to add to the conspiracies.
The Suns game is the doozy because they are red hot right now and beating us will give them some serious Prelim Final credibility. But Hardwicks Richmond teams never did great down at Geelong.
They have an incredible midfield though and we aren't bullet proof at home this year.
Bombers should be a 50 point win, but the Bombers games are weird.
Sometimes we play them when they have a strong team and are having a good season (last year when we battered them by 45 points they were 9W-1D-4L and looking at a top 4 spot or Rd 1 2022 when they had a strong preseason and we smashed them by 66 points) but I think I am burnt by years like 2017 and 2018 when we were the better team and lost to them.
I am still triggered by that loss to them in 2011.
Hopefully Brisbanes form doesn't improve, if we had Brisbane next week we would be looking at a 5+ goal win, Neale would kick 6 on Andrews while Mullin would blanket Neale so badly we would be asking the club to dye his hair red and give him the #45.
Our draw is not as easy as people make out coming up.
GCS at home won’t be easy, GWS away won’t be easy, St kilda are a bit of an Achilles heel so will be close… Brisbane won’t be easy…Sydney at SCG will be a tough one also.
I can already see 5 games that are going to be tough for varying reasons.
GCS at home won’t be easy, GWS away won’t be easy, St kilda are a bit of an Achilles heel so will be close… Brisbane won’t be easy…Sydney at SCG will be a tough one also.
I can already see 5 games that are going to be tough for varying reasons.
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Saints at KP will be a comfortable win. Based on current form of both teams, Brisbane at KP will be a 3-5 goal win.
The GWS game will be the only game for the rest of the season we don't start warm favourites in. The only game left we have against a team above us on the ladder is Brisbane and we will be favourites at home.
I am sure we will drop another 3-4 games along the way, potentially with a surprise or two in there, but it should be more than enough for us to finish top 4.
Well said. The first 11 games are about getting yourself in a position that if you play well in second half of the year, you will be top 2.
We have done that. Of course things could go wrong but we are in a great spot now.
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Hoyne from Champion Data runs through premiership profiles a fair bit.
One such thing this week is that after round 11 each of the previous 10 seasons, the premier was ranked top 6 for ball movement - aggregate of attacking (with the ball) and defending (stopping opposition ball movement).
This year those teams (in order) are Adelaide, Collingwood, GWS, Gold Coast, Hawthorn and Geelong. Brisbane just barely miss out, in 7th. Bulldogs aren't there.
Another thing was that 18 of the last 19 premiers have been ranked top 3 for scoring from turnovers (end of season). Geelong currently rank 4th. Collingwood, Adelaide and Gold Coast ahead of us.
So we're tracking pretty well despite a tough draw and injuries. Gold Coast and Adelaide are too (maybe we're all sleeping on them), although they've had softer runs.
One such thing this week is that after round 11 each of the previous 10 seasons, the premier was ranked top 6 for ball movement - aggregate of attacking (with the ball) and defending (stopping opposition ball movement).
This year those teams (in order) are Adelaide, Collingwood, GWS, Gold Coast, Hawthorn and Geelong. Brisbane just barely miss out, in 7th. Bulldogs aren't there.
Another thing was that 18 of the last 19 premiers have been ranked top 3 for scoring from turnovers (end of season). Geelong currently rank 4th. Collingwood, Adelaide and Gold Coast ahead of us.
So we're tracking pretty well despite a tough draw and injuries. Gold Coast and Adelaide are too (maybe we're all sleeping on them), although they've had softer runs.
They can be vague on particulars in these segments unfortunately for things like that. Hoyne did say it excluded centrebounces and forward 50 stoppages.
It's a bit like them saying 80% of games this season have been won by the team using the ball better. How exactly is it defined?
I know for disposals they measure retention and threat. They also rank players kicking ability with algorithms similar to expected score for goal kicking. So I imagine it's some combination of those factors concerning the attacking side. For defending opposition ball movement I guess it measures if they under or over perform relative to league average?
You probably have to be a data cruncher at CD to know for sure.
If we can get back Kolo and our defence clicks we will go close.
I'm just blown away how good Bailey Smith has been in his first year at the Cats, Norm Smith maybe!!
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His performance has been revelatory. He's our best midfielder by a country mile. As the years go by, I do believe Holmes will eclipse him. But right now he's a beast.
I reckon people forgot about him after he was played out of position in his final season at the Dogs and then he suffered the knee injury, sort of put on the back burner in a sense.
Still come back to that 2021 finals series. He displayed a full repertoire of his potential and that is what we are seeing again.
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Eddie and Jimmy podcast has short, hold, buy and they're buying stocks in us for Top 2 from here.
Anything less than top 3 with our draw would be surprising.
Anything less than top 3 with our draw would be surprising.
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A lot will come down to our two home games against Brisbane and Gold Coast. Win those and we would be well on the way. The two trips to Sydney shape up as critical as well. You'd hope we can basically win the rest.
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Big thing for me is making sure we don't drop any more games to teams we should be beating.
Saints, Carlton, GWS losses hurt still
Is it the biggest thing?
Would you take:
-Beat Brisbane, Gold Coast, GWS and Sydney. Lose 2 "unlosable" matches. Finish on 17 wins, top 2.
-Lose to Brisbane, Gold Coast, GWS and Sydney. Win every other game by 10+ goals. Finish on 15 wins, 5th.
Now of course we want to do win all of the tough AND easy ones. But my priority remains winning the tough games and especially those against fellow finals teams. So I stand by those 4 selected games being the most critical. Even if it meant we dropped a shock horror result elsewhere.
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I think we will be winning a few of the tough games hence us not dropping some easy ones is a bigger key for me.
Out of Bris, GCS, GWS and Sydney i see us going 2-2 at worst which would be fine as long as we also don't drop games we should win.
I think we will be winning most of the "easy games", hence winning the tough ones is a bigger key for me.
Out of Essendon x2, Richmond x2, Port, NM and St Kilda I see us going 5-2 at (absolute) worst which would be fine if we beat the teams around us on the ladder.
Games against fellow finals contenders have an 8 point swing. It is objectively more important to win those games than those against cellar dwellers. I know the frustration of losing to teams you shouldn't is there, but I'm talking strictly about "where the Cats fare" in terms of ladder position.
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Confidence for us too.
It might only be 10%, but we'd much prefer facing Brisbane or GCS in the finals knowing we've got their measure, particularly with those games being at home for us.
Part of the reason this season feels so open is we know we can beat Collingwood.
Even if we end up being the second or third best team in reality, if we can just get them in a prelim or GF, anything can happen.
If you want to go all Kennett mode too, it historically bodes well for us playing them, but those things usually just sound good in theory.
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