Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 5

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Continued From Part 4:

Vic - How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 4

This thread is Continued in Part 5: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/how-would-you-rate-daniel-andrews-performance-as-victorian-premier-part-5.1282789/

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[11kgm]

Yes how dare they. Lock them away ASAP!

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I don't want covid down here you can keep it in Melbourne

 

[adogsfan5]

A storm is coming...

 

[SnakeMan86]

Why did the police try and illegally stop the media from broadcasting images?

The same reason broadcasters don't show streakers at sporting events

 

[CM86]

He spent the $1,300,000,000,000,000 on the new Panzer battalion that he parades around the city to scare defenceless old ladies, and to shove it up the cool kids who picked on in him in high school

This is a bit ridiculous, even as a joke. How much of the basis of this post, do you genuinely believe?

Why did the police try and illegally stop the media from broadcasting images?

From what I understand, it was only ever in regards to live aerial broadcasts. The police stating that "protesters were using live footage to avoid police and direct their movements".
"It‘s allowing them to direct protesters to particular areas, it’s allowing them to see in real time our tactics, and it allows them in real time, potentially, to direct the protesters where there are small groups of police”.

I'm not sure how I feel about police having control or oversight on media. But on face value this seems reasonable.

I have much more of a problem with elected officials taking advantage of our legal system to silence media, journalists and civilians.

The approach just needs more carrot and more stick. More carrot to entice people on the fence to vaccinate. More stick because I'm a spiteful campaigner and anti-vaxxers shouldn't have the right to leave their house, useless assholes that they are.

I think more stick will just cause more problems.

The stick should be used on the grifters who are deliberately spreading misinformation and fear, mostly for their own profit.

This is the problem with comparing a real vaccine with the flu shot. Covid is more like the annual flu shot, not a vaccine that will actually protect you from getting something.

The "flu shot" is a vaccine.
Research is done to work out what types of influenza will be most common that year, and vaccines are given for those.
You're still susceptible to other, less likely, variants.

Vaccines in general don't have 100% efficacy. They reduce the severity and risk.
I don't think there are any vaccines with 100% efficacy. Even the polio vaccine isn't 100%.

 

[EDFL follower]

Talking to a work mate she had friends from Melbourne come to Gippsland to watch the grandfinal

people are dumb

Who are the dumb people in this instance?
The ones who went and had a good time at a grand final party or the ones who sat at home on their own following Dans rules?

 

[CM86]

The same reason broadcasters don't show streakers at sporting events

I don't think there should be as much ongoing footage as there is.
I'd rather more journalistic reporting, than the free advertising it's giving, and how it's making it seem larger and more supported than it actually is.

 

[hawkman]

Given 80% isn't going to be reach until Tuesday, 6 weeks on from that is now November 10. You would think that would be the earliest that part of the road map for 80% fully vaccinated will be opened

 

[Rustin Cohle]

Who are the dumb people in this instance?
The ones who went and had a good time at a grand final party or the ones who sat at home on their own following Dans rules?

Don't want to hear a word from you when we get locked down again because of *******s from Melbourne and the regional hicks that let them in.

 

[Seeds]

I've told you several times that I'm fully vaccinated. No doubt I'll have to tell you again. Nuance isn't your strong suit.

So whats your issue with vaccine passports then? Do you have the same issue with your drivers license?

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Director of the Burnett institute telling us sh*t we already know based off the model they developed.

And when he says low cases last year worked so well, is it because the government did anything special, or was it simply because we were locked in hour homes for the majority of it? Like I've said previously, any fool can lock people in their homes and say it's a success we beat covid.

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And last year wasn’t Delta.

 

[Sqotty from office works]

There's one road into my town.
Weekend in apollo bay.
Massive inflow of Melbourne people.
Police hiding so they don't book anybody.
Maskless people in street and supermarket.
Police not seen.
Grand final party down the street ,cops called and told people to keep noise down.
Friends in northern Victorian town reported similar behaviour.
Cops cant/won't control the population, so lockdowns are unofficialy over.
A certain amount of people will die and the rest of us get back to normal.

 

[MightyTiger]

This is a bit ridiculous, even as a joke. How much of the basis of this post, do you genuinely believe?


From what I understand, it was only ever in regards to live aerial broadcasts. The police stating that "protesters were using live footage to avoid police and direct their movements".
"It‘s allowing them to direct protesters to particular areas, it’s allowing them to see in real time our tactics, and it allows them in real time, potentially, to direct the protesters where there are small groups of police”.

I'm not sure how I feel about police having control or oversight on media. But on face value this seems reasonable.

I have much more of a problem with elected officials taking advantage of our legal system to silence media, journalists and civilians.


I think more stick will just cause more problems.

The stick should be used on the grifters who are deliberately spreading misinformation and fear, mostly for their own profit.


The "flu shot" is a vaccine.
Research is done to work out what types of influenza will be most common that year, and vaccines are given for those.
You're still susceptible to other, less likely, variants.

Vaccines in general don't have 100% efficacy. They reduce the severity and risk.
I don't think there are any vaccines with 100% efficacy. Even the polio vaccine isn't 100%.

Only in 2021 did the narrative change of how a vaccine works. From immunity, to reduce risk and severity

Polio Vaccine Effectiveness and Duration of Protection | CDC

Information about the effectiveness of the polio vaccine and how long it provides immunity against poliovirus.

www.cdc.gov

Vaccine Effectiveness
Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective

Duration of Protection
It is not known how long people who received IPV will be immune to poliovirus, but they are most likely protected for many years after a complete series of IPV.

And considering the covid vaccines double dose is barely showing 50-60% effectiveness in studies now, and you're going to need yearly booster shots they're saying, covid vaccine is really not a vaccine at all.

Please stop perpetuating lies to suit your argument.

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[MightyTiger]

I don't want covid down here you can keep it in Melbourne

Stay in your home, it's your safe space from all the bad things out their. Some say they've been attacked by birds that swoop down from the sky! Scary stuff.

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[Deliverance]

There's one road into my town.
Weekend in apollo bay.
Massive inflow of Melbourne people.
Police hiding so they don't book anybody.
Maskless people in street and supermarket.
Police not seen.
Grand final party down the street ,cops called and told people to keep noise down.
Friends in northern Victorian town reported similar behaviour.
Cops cant/won't control the population, so lockdowns are unofficialy over.
A certain amount of people will die and the rest of us get back to normal.

Fair enough too. The people who need to be protected have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. Dan has lost control of it in this state, he had his chance back in July but blew it. Time to start living again in this state.

 

[Sqotty from office works]

Fair enough too. The people who need to be protected have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. Dan has lost control of it in this state, he had his chance back in July but blew it. Time to start living again in this state.

With modern communication and a percentage of people disobeying lockdown, a Police force not interested in civil obedience, a population divided, there is no alternative other than opening and just letting a certain amount of people die.
Like car accidents, cancer and other reasons you hope it's not your family members that get it.
So far every alternative has FAILED miserably and after an open no police GF weekend it's obvious no other type of lockdown will work.

If slommo just stopped international flights originally we would've been out of this in 30 days.
He's a moron.

Go to apollo bay facebook.

 

[mcnulty]

Only in 2021 did the narrative change of how a vaccine works. From immunity, to reduce risk and severity

Polio Vaccine Effectiveness and Duration of Protection | CDC

Information about the effectiveness of the polio vaccine and how long it provides immunity against poliovirus.

www.cdc.gov

Vaccine Effectiveness
Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective

Duration of Protection
It is not known how long people who received IPV will be immune to poliovirus, but they are most likely protected for many years after a complete series of IPV.

And considering the covid vaccines double dose is barely showing 50-60% effectiveness in studies now, and you're going to need yearly booster shots they're saying, covid vaccine is really not a vaccine at all.

Please stop perpetuating lies to suit your argument.

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The flu vax is generally 40-60% effective. It works better on some strains than others. It’s still a vaccine and it’s still recommended you get one annually.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

 

[Ghost Patrol]

There's one road into my town.
Weekend in apollo bay.
Massive inflow of Melbourne people.
Police hiding so they don't book anybody.
Maskless people in street and supermarket.
Police not seen.
Grand final party down the street ,cops called and told people to keep noise down.
Friends in northern Victorian town reported similar behaviour.
Cops cant/won't control the population, so lockdowns are unofficialy over.
A certain amount of people will die and the rest of us get back to normal.

On the road to Gundagai.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

705

1 death

 

[FRUMPY]

I find the whole 'we were going to lessen restrictions today as we thought we'd hit our target.....but its not safe to do it at the moment and we will do it in 2 days time' idiotic

apart from a number, what will have actually changed in the 2 days that makes it so much safer to lessen restrictions?

 

[Baltimore Jack]

I find the whole 'we were going to lessen restrictions today as we thought we'd hit our target.....but its not safe to do it at the moment and we will do it in 2 days time' idiotic

apart from a number, what will have actually changed in the 2 days that makes it so much safer to lessen restrictions?

There has to be a line somewhere

We could take your line but someone else would use your reasoning against that line and move it back, then someone else......and so on until we don't have a line at all

 

[Crankyhawk]

I find the whole 'we were going to lessen restrictions today as we thought we'd hit our target.....but its not safe to do it at the moment and we will do it in 2 days time' idiotic

apart from a number, what will have actually changed in the 2 days that makes it so much safer to lessen restrictions?

Hitting the target number. That is the important thing.

 

[FRUMPY]

Hitting the target number. That is the important thing.

exactly, no reason

 

[Crankyhawk]

exactly, no reason

You clearly fail at plan comprehension and exponential maths. You must hit number to release the restrictions otherwise why have a plan if you are just going to ignore it for the “feels”

 

[Baltimore Jack]

exactly, no reason

So what target would you set....and why that target?