Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 7

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Is that important?

You bet it is. It will mean come November 2022 Victoria will have had 4 health ministers in as many years. Not a good look when the the health system is in crisis and the thing you need is stability.
 
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Their main go-to at the moment is the health system collapsing. They are attacking and using that item most days now in their campaign.

It’s such a poor negative approach. Rather than finger pointing all day, they really need to start putting up some solid plans to combat the opposition.

In regards to accountability - I can’t see any for a long time.

Lol this is quite funny......i heard the same complaints about Albo 4-5 months out from the fed election...the response from those progressive types was....it will come, but you cant expect him to show his hand this far out.

Now we are talking about Dan and the LNP in opposition, apparently the rules are all different.

In reality....i wouldnt expect any opposition to be showing their hand this early.

Stop being partisan.
 

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He's either got a better offer in the private sector or worked out he won't get the gig and pulled the plug.

I was talking to a friend a few months ago that was adamant he had inside info that Andrews was hated and would be gone before the election.

Given this guy couldn't spot the grift from reignite democracy Australia until they became open about being antivax I was sceptical Da would be gone by November

You had my hopes up then for a moment. Merlino would be so much better than Andrews.
 

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Absolutely
Quite agree 4 ministers in a short time isn’t good, but these are different times. Mikakos wasn’t up to the job, so better to change to a more capable minister. Be good to put a really good person in charge now and start addressing the multitude of issues that need to be fixed in our health system.
 
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Lol this is quite funny......i heard the same complaints about Albo 4-5 months out from the fed election...the response from those progressive types was....it will come, but you cant expect him to show his hand this far out.

Now we are talking about Dan and the LNP in opposition, apparently the rules are all different.

In reality....i wouldnt expect any opposition to be showing their hand this early.

Stop being partisan.
Thought guy did at least commit to the new Albury/ wodonga hospital, so hasn’t been all negative on health. And I think there probably are many health care workers talking directly to lnp about issues.
 

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You bet it is. It will mean come November 2022 Victoria will have had 4 health ministers in as many years. Not a good look when the the health system is in crisis and the thing you need is stability.
So?
 

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Maybe Merlino's going to run in the Federal seat of Casey at the next federal election?

It's very winnable, as the ALP candidate at the last two elections has been a wet lettuce and it's only a 3% margin. Good chance that a strong candidate like Merlino could win it at the next election, particularly if the LNP continues to go ultra-Qld.
 

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Maybe Merlino's going to run in the Federal seat of Casey at the next federal election?

It's very winnable, as the ALP candidate at the last two elections has been a wet lettuce and it's only a 3% margin. Good chance that a strong candidate like Merlino could win it at the next election, particularly if the LNP continues to go ultra-Qld.
I hope so. I was voting for ALP for the federal election but was so incredibly uninspired by the candidate. I find it hard to believe they couldn't find anyone better to run in a seat that had potential to swing.
 

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Thought guy did at least commit to the new Albury/ wodonga hospital, so hasn’t been all negative on health. And I think there probably are many health care workers talking directly to lnp about issues.

It was a welcome announcement in these parts. Andrews will take his time, given his health minister has told people i know in the health service that there is no votes for Andrews in building health infrastructure in NSW. In essence....Andrews will only come to the party if it helps his election prospects. Kent.
 

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Dan the man won't be unhappy about all the resignations just before the election. He can start afresh with new faces and this might not be a bad thing for his Government? As we know, Andrews hates to be questioned and my guess is these four senior people asked too many questions? How many others have resigned during his tyrannical rule? If he's condescending to the Victorian public, what chance do any of his subordinates have?
 

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It was a welcome announcement in these parts. Andrews will take his time, given his health minister has told people i know in the health service that there is no votes for Andrews in building health infrastructure in NSW. In essence....Andrews will only come to the party if it helps his election prospects. Kent.
Eh I'm pragmatic about motivations now, only care about outcomes
 

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Dan the man won't be unhappy about all the resignations just before the election. He can start afresh with new faces and this might not be a bad thing for his Government? As we know, Andrews hates to be questioned and my guess is these four senior people asked too many questions? How many others have resigned during his tyrannical rule? If he's condescending to the Victorian public, what chance do any of his subordinates have?
Some may also be burnt out as well, but I also think its not a good sign for those of us (like myself) hoping that Dan will step down before the next election either. Make the next government (even if still ALP) a refresh.
 

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Doubt it. He's born and bred Yarra Ranges. Would just want some time with his family now.
Yarra Ranges is in Casey, it's right in the middle of it.

He lives near Monbulk and his office is in Belgrave.

I reckon he'd win it in a canter, given how bad the previous ALP candidate was - who ran twice- and after 3 years off with the family, it could be good timing.
 

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Yarra Ranges is in Casey, it's right in the middle of it.

He lives near Monbulk and his office is in Belgrave.

I reckon he'd win it in a canter, given how bad the previous ALP candidate was - who ran twice- and after 3 years off with the family, it could be good timing.
Derp. My mistake. I had Casey Council on the brain from a work related matter. Right you are. He'd be an asset at any level of politics.
 

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I reckon there's a big scandal in the offing.

I accidentally came across this quite juicy scandal indirectly related to Dan Andrews last week.

It's a good scandal, but it doesn't reflect directly or even politically on him. If it were published in relation to Dutton, Morrison, Guy, or O'Brien, my reaction would be "well what's that got to do with ........". But you can bet it would be published.

The thing is, the reason it drew my attention was because I kept trying to link to the issue, but from multiple internet sources the link redirected me elsewhere. So I had to go the long way and once I read the matter I was trying to read, and would have read none the wiser as to the link to Dan Andrews, I, out of pure curiosity, googled the name.

Now this is the thing that gets interesting, as I said, the scandal itself, whilst juicy, does not reflect directly on Andrews. But all references to the links between the party and Andrews have been completely scrubbed from the Internet. Someone has spent a shitload of time and money making sure that the only way to find the link is if you already know the parties, or you accidentally stumble upon it like I did.

Now I think if this scandal came out, it probably wouldn't hurt Andrews. At least it shouldn't. But the lengths that have been gone to to scrub the relationship suggests to me a paranoia and a quite efficient team dedicated to this kind of work.

Anyway, we'll see I guess.
 

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Interesting times in VIC. Fingers crossed the Libs can pull a rabbit out of their hat, but I don't think it will happen.

Weirdly, I don't think I know anyone who would actually vote for Dan, and yet Labor is comfortably favourite.
 

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Just watching his press conference about the resignations. Get me a barf bag, has anyone seen such narcissism? Everything with Andrews smells of Lavender! All the tell tale signs are there of a pathological fibber of huge proportians, he could crap on all day if he wanted too, he's really good at. He has a reputation of being dictatorial, difficult and totally patronising to his colleagues, his contempt for the Victorian public and arrogance towards the media is astoundaing. The public are just as guilty, Victorians bend over willingly and they have let him get away with it and he knows it.
He is typical of those trying to deceive and stretch the truth with too many words. Since such a spinner of fairy tales may make up things as they go, they may also tend to add excessive detail to convince themselves or others of what they are saying. He gets very testy with the media when they pull him up on this and ask questions?
He will get re-elected and Victoria will get more of the same, as will his colleagues that are silly enough to still be there after November. The only thing in his favour is he's not as bad a politician as the un Australian duo of Adam Bandt or Lidia Thorpe.
 

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I reckon there's a big scandal in the offing.

I accidentally came across this quite juicy scandal indirectly related to Dan Andrews last week.

It's a good scandal, but it doesn't reflect directly or even politically on him. If it were published in relation to Dutton, Morrison, Guy, or O'Brien, my reaction would be "well what's that got to do with ........". But you can bet it would be published.

The thing is, the reason it drew my attention was because I kept trying to link to the issue, but from multiple internet sources the link redirected me elsewhere. So I had to go the long way and once I read the matter I was trying to read, and would have read none the wiser as to the link to Dan Andrews, I, out of pure curiosity, googled the name.

Now this is the thing that gets interesting, as I said, the scandal itself, whilst juicy, does not reflect directly on Andrews. But all references to the links between the party and Andrews have been completely scrubbed from the Internet. Someone has spent a shitload of time and money making sure that the only way to find the link is if you already know the parties, or you accidentally stumble upon it like I did.

Now I think if this scandal came out, it probably wouldn't hurt Andrews. At least it shouldn't. But the lengths that have been gone to to scrub the relationship suggests to me a paranoia and a quite efficient team dedicated to this kind of work.

Anyway, we'll see I guess.

lol. Is this like the one with Lindsay fox?
 

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