Hun proclaim in a "split" between Andrews and merlino but not so loud on all the slpits in the coalition on practically any subject you care to mention
Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier?
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Well it was only one plan that the Yarra City Council had proposed. The money spent on the monument would be better off going to a safe injecting room at any rate.
So is everyone who takes illicit drugs a criminal in your eyes?
So you'd like the Premier to comment on everything that City Councils propose from now on?
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Notes for those of us who don't want to listen to that particular clown and his phony, Ruddish accent?
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I must admit even I was surprised at the excitement of that front page about a "split" between Andrews and Merlino but it's on an issue where there's a conscience vote.
Essentially it was a nothing story!
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Guy's planning decisions beginning to come home to roost.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/f...mess-means-itll-cost-19m-20170804-gxpn10.html
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/f...mess-means-itll-cost-19m-20170804-gxpn10.html
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Well I note with great interest that the ALP fanboys are largely quiet about today's revelations surrounding the Andrews' Government's West Gate Tunnel.
Those fanboys that went after the East West Link and continue to deride it are nowhere to be seen when their beloved leader has a tunnel that could be just as dodgy.
So what do we have here?
We have the same people that provided the business case for EWL, the same EWL that Andrews axed straight away costing $1.3 billion, producing the business case for the West Gate Tunnel. Looks like some sort of ALP deal has been done to keep those same people from EWL happy. The ALP fanboys have nothing to say about that.
We have a transport consultant who has consulted for BOTH major parties on projects, who was hired in 2015 to assess Transurban's proposal, axed from assessing the road after raising concerns....axed for raising what he sees as a legitimate concern. Are you bloody serious? Is standing up to the ALP now seen as a crime? Again, the fanboys have nothing to say here.
The biggest problem is that now there are doubts about the road, the ALP are playing the "nothing to see here card."
There is however one small problem with this. The Andrews government campaigned on a promise to keep the cost of living low and yet, they want to hand Transurban control of tolls for a further 10 years without anyone raising a peep. Something doesn't add up in the slightest but again, the ALP fanboys are conspicuous by their silence.
Now before you all go, oh, this is some media beat up...I know what people are like here, if it's from the Herald Sun then it's all lies....there's one small problem. This doesn't come from the Herald Sun.
Step forward, our ALP Propaganda machine, The Age!
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/w...support-road-says-expert-20170813-gxv9gd.html
Those fanboys that went after the East West Link and continue to deride it are nowhere to be seen when their beloved leader has a tunnel that could be just as dodgy.
So what do we have here?
We have the same people that provided the business case for EWL, the same EWL that Andrews axed straight away costing $1.3 billion, producing the business case for the West Gate Tunnel. Looks like some sort of ALP deal has been done to keep those same people from EWL happy. The ALP fanboys have nothing to say about that.
We have a transport consultant who has consulted for BOTH major parties on projects, who was hired in 2015 to assess Transurban's proposal, axed from assessing the road after raising concerns....axed for raising what he sees as a legitimate concern. Are you bloody serious? Is standing up to the ALP now seen as a crime? Again, the fanboys have nothing to say here.
The biggest problem is that now there are doubts about the road, the ALP are playing the "nothing to see here card."
There is however one small problem with this. The Andrews government campaigned on a promise to keep the cost of living low and yet, they want to hand Transurban control of tolls for a further 10 years without anyone raising a peep. Something doesn't add up in the slightest but again, the ALP fanboys are conspicuous by their silence.
Now before you all go, oh, this is some media beat up...I know what people are like here, if it's from the Herald Sun then it's all lies....there's one small problem. This doesn't come from the Herald Sun.
Step forward, our ALP Propaganda machine, The Age!
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/w...support-road-says-expert-20170813-gxv9gd.html
It is dodgy. And transurbans are a blight on ourcity
Knowing William McDougall I trust his version. Taking a risk as speaking out potentially would blight his future chances of work.
This isn't a left vs. right issue. Major roads like this rarely add up economically. That's been known for a long time.
So should governments just build them because it is a inherent problem with the arithmetic, or should they just not build roads at all because of the economics.
The previous government were also bombarded with unsolicited proposals from the likes of Transurban.
Depends. You can build them as long as you are prepared to wear a loss or allow Transurban to charge whatever they like.
The bigger problem is cultural.
If it depends, and the cost-benefit analyses all say the numbers don't add up, then the judgements will be made on a political basis.
Which I'm fine with but politicians need to wear those decisions, not make numbers up.
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If Matthew Guy thinks the 'dinner with a Mafia Don at the Lobster Cave' issue will go away by the time the 2018 State election campaign starts, he's sadly mistaken. Labor will remind Guy of it (as well as his time as Planning Minister during the Baileau/ Napthine era) in their press and media advertising in the run up to Election Day.
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Trannsurban repeatedly show they are all about profits not efficiency of the system.
Per km per time of day charging could go a long way to resolving congestion but it needs to be applied fairly and efficiently and voter would be right to assume the current players including transurban would not do that
Who could blame them
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The Minister for Family violence Prevention has been fighting cancer for sometime and announced only yesterday that she was stepping back from her role with multiple tumours.
However tonight, it has been announced that she has passed away.
RIP.
The Minister for Family violence Prevention has been fighting cancer for sometime and announced only yesterday that she was stepping back from her role with multiple tumours.
However tonight, it has been announced that she has passed away.
RIP.
Condolences to her family/friends. A good politician who stood up for what they believed in and tried to make things better.
So Daniel Andrews attempts to screw up the fire services have hit yet another brick wall with the upper house not going to pass the bill.
Maybe now he might consider options that actually help rather than simply fulfilling a personal debt...
Maybe now he might consider options that actually help rather than simply fulfilling a personal debt...
So why is the fire service immune from modernisation that all other sections of the economy have sucked up
Honestly they talk about unions bur private education, private health insurance and the CFA have had a free ride from the libs
They're not, but how does the reform proposed modernise the fire services? It simply changes the logo on the truck and uniforms and allows the union to create an EBA that they hope gives them full control over all staff stations in the state rather than just the MFB ones they currently control.
The reality is the reforms do nothing to improve community safety or service delivery. In fact in some areas they decrease the service available to the community by removing flexibility in responses. Right now a CFA staff crew can take the appropriate appliance to a job, under the new reforms they will only have 1 truck to choose from. So when there is a bushfire, they wont be able to assist as the FRV trucks wont go off road.
In actual fact if you wanted to modernise and improve the fire services, you would go to 1 service, gives them full flexibility and ability to respond to any emergency more efficiently. But that doesnt give the union the control they desire so its not an option.
Professionalism
So you are saying all CFA career firefighters are unprofessional? But change the badge and they become professional???
Some have been. Very much so
Some are paid professionals
Would you like a volunteer ambulance to take your sick kid away, or a a volunteer teacher?
Do you even understand what you are arguing about? Fire Rescue Victoria does not change the amount of volunteers responding to emergencies, it does not increase the amount of career firefighters responding to emergencies, it changes the badge from current full time paid firefighters in CFA and MFB to FRV. Thats it...
We are in an age of branding. Sheould all be FRV and should all be paid. Some full time and some part time
Wait, you want to pay someone to man the little tin shed that does 1 call a year? Wow...
Anyway part timers are not an option according to Premier Marshall...
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