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That all makes sense - is the cost of transporting Melbourne s**t up there so prohibitive to make it uneconomical?
Its not impossible but requires infrastructure (transfer stations) that NIMBY thinking wouldnt welcome.
Running collection vehicles to Ballarat would destroy their productivity.

There is a plant currently being discussed to service SE Melbourne , located just outside Morwell, with all sorts of transport options including rail.
 

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The blue-bike scheme introduced in 2010 costs more than $2 million a year, with each bike only used once a day on average.

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The blue-bike scheme introduced in 2010 costs more than $2 million a year, with each bike only used once a day on average.

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All over the World bikes in the city seem such a good idea. Melbournites/ Tourists just do not get it ..a shame. The idiots that throw the bikes in the river and graffiti all over the place are not dealt with harshly enough. It's always the LCD that spoils daily life for everyday Australians.
 

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Awful day for Dan

We found out: Airport link flop - likely to involve 2 trains to get there and trips every 20 minutes.

East North Link - dud of a toll way that’s going to cost tax payers billions for the next 50 years. To the Chinese.

Exorbitant overseas spending - over 3million

Planning mister A-OK bulldoze of heritage pending house.
 

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Usually it's the Liberals who whine loud and long when a developer is prevented from bulldozing a heritage building and replacing it with a gaudy eyesore.
Meh, they're doing the Lord's work. Unless we want to be building suburbs out to Warragul and Geelong a few of those quarter acre blocks need to be divided up into higher density living. The amount of "historically significant" houses that should be immune from further development is a much smaller number than what planning departments seem to believe. The NIMBYs are going to have to lose at some point.
 

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Meh, they're doing the Lord's work. Unless we want to be building suburbs out to Warragul and Geelong a few of those quarter acre blocks need to be divided up into higher density living. The amount of "historically significant" houses that should be immune from further development is a much smaller number than what planning departments seem to believe. The NIMBYs are going to have to lose at some point.
That's not the issue. The point is that, if the developer was complaining about heritage rules blocking the project you can bet your life Adz would be in here bitching and whimpering about Labor red tape. 100% guarantee.

That architects and builders seem to purposely produce ugly buildings is a discussion for another day.
 

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That's not the issue. The point is that, if the developer was complaining about heritage rules blocking the project you can bet your life Adz would be in here bitching and whimpering about Labor red tape. 100% guarantee.

That architects and builders seem to purposely produce ugly buildings is a discussion for another day.
No issue with me, I'm only here because I play a game every morning where I read The Age before work and try to guess what articles will end up linked in this thread.

1 from 1 today :)
 

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The blue bikes were fairly pointless for tourists given our helmet laws. Friggin nanny state, helmets should be optional for adults.
I've never seen anyone ride one of them

Yet they'd be everywhere all over the city

Been around for years too though, not just under this Labor government
 

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I've never seen anyone ride one of them

Yet they'd be everywhere all over the city

Been around for years too though, not just under this Labor government
Has anyone had a look at why the decision to waste money has failed - what assumptions were wrong, was it simply the whim of some group who want Melbourne to be a European city?
 

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3 consortiums shortlisted for NEL, one led by CPB, one led by JHG and another led by Salini also featuring Lend Lease as an "advisor"

Probably between CPB and JHG at this point, rumours have long been an international bid was sought just to make up the numbers.

Nonetheless, things are moving.
 

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3 consortiums shortlisted for NEL, one led by CPB, one led by JHG and another led by Salini also featuring Lend Lease as an "advisor"

Probably between CPB and JHG at this point, rumours have long been an international bid was sought just to make up the numbers.

Nonetheless, things are moving.
Not surprised NFA was overlooked, are any of the above related to the EWL fiasco.
 

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3 consortiums shortlisted for NEL, one led by CPB, one led by JHG and another led by Salini also featuring Lend Lease as an "advisor"

Probably between CPB and JHG at this point, rumours have long been an international bid was sought just to make up the numbers.

Nonetheless, things are moving.
Hollands must just have infinite resources. Between Metro Tunnel, West Gate, and upcoming LX removals, how do they even have the resources available?
 

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Not surprised NFA was overlooked, are any of the above related to the EWL fiasco.
Yep, Lend Lease was the lead for the winning bid and Acciona was a partner for the same consortium.

Hollands must just have infinite resources. Between Metro Tunnel, West Gate, and upcoming LX removals, how do they even have the resources available?
Timing-wise, the WGT should finish up before the bulk of works commence for this project so both CPB and JHG would be hoping for a seamless transition of people from one to the other and most of the tunneling works in Sydney will also be finished by then.

But no idea how they're going to find enough people to sit in the office and price it. Lots of man-hours go into tendering a job this big
 

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Has anyone had a look at why the decision to waste money has failed - what assumptions were wrong, was it simply the whim of some group who want Melbourne to be a European city?
I heard it was a case of not enough bike stations or whatever they call them. It wasn't worth walking a fair distance to get a bike park it a fair distance from your destination and then walking to your destination. Might as well just walked, and that's what people did
 

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I heard it was a case of not enough bike stations or whatever they call them. It wasn't worth walking a fair distance to get a bike park it a fair distance from your destination and then walking to your destination. Might as well just walked, and that's what people did
Works fine on the foreshore down St Kilda way, its not commuter type use, that I'd bet some enthusiast used as a justification.
 

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