Liberals should concentrate on not being incompetent rather than pull these shenanigans. Dan implements their agenda better than they could in a million years
Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier?
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The dills that ensure the left & the right knuckledragger set have no effect on election day.
The left were the ones pushing the Free Tibet movement for decades. As well as the Free East Timor movement and the Free West Papua movement. I don't recall them having anything kind to say about Pinochet either.
I doubt it would be the first. do a search
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Anyhow, have a Winfield 25.
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If there's money to be made then we can forget about a pandemic...
Holy crap, that may not be as far fetched as I first thought!
This is the hypocrisy i don't understand. Both parties have strong links to China, and have no doubt lead to our nation possibly being compromised due to China's influence.
But how is Dan's deal any different?
Because the China problem is only relevant when you can use it as a partisan attack on the opposition, in this case Andrews
Conservatives and the liberals would sell the whole country to the Chinese in a heart beat for a profit, don't believe their chinese hate for a second. Tony literally sold part of the country to China, Gladys Liu is kept on despite being a Chinese agent because they need her for the 1 seat majority. Julia Bishop took crazy amounts of Chinese money as donations
If you really want to solve the China problem, then you should believe in these things:
1. ICAC now, monitor all foreign donations on our pollies and ensure no foul play
2. Expel any parliament members with Chinese ties
3. Root for a US government not headed by Trump, because we need to lean on America to counter the Chinese, but Trump will sell us down the river
If no.2 includes State Parliaments then lets do it!
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Dan has handled the international diplomacy with China over this pandemic far better than our federal government. I'll give him that.
No, that wasn't my viewpoint, but you can't view politics outside of your narrow partisan scope, so of course you wouldn't understand
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We are talking about an authoritarian superpower with no regards to democracy, human rights or freedom of expression.
The human rights situation continued to be marked by a systematic crackdown on dissent. The justice system remained plagued by unfair trials and torture and other ill-treatment in detention. China still classified information on its extensive use of the death penalty as a state secret. China legalized arbitrary and secret detention, such as “residential surveillance in a designated location” and an extra-judicial system of detention (liuzhi). These procedures allowed for prolonged incommunicado detention and increased the risk of torture and other ill-treatment and forced “confessions”.
Repression conducted under the guise of “anti-separatism” or “counter-terrorism” remained particularly severe in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region (Xinjiang) and Tibetan-populated areas (Tibet). Reports about the detention of Uyghurs, Kazakhs and other predominantly Muslim ethnic groups continued in Xinjiang despite the government’s claim that it may eventually phase out purported “vocational training centres”, also known as “transformation-through-education” centres. From early 2017, after the Xinjiang government had enacted a regulation enforcing so-called “de-extremification”, an estimated up to one million Uyghurs, Kazakhs and other ethnic minority people were sent to these internment camps.
LGBTI people faced widespread discrimination and stigma in society. Due to inadequate medical services, they took serious risks by seeking unregulated and improper gender-affirming treatments. LGBTI people also faced abuses in the form of "conversion therapy”.
The government continued to intimidate, harass, and prosecute human rights defenders and independent NGOs, including raids on their homes and offices. Human rights defenders’ family members were subjected to police surveillance, harassment, detention and restrictions on their freedom of movement.
The government strengthened its restrictions to the rights to freedom of expression, association and peaceful assembly. The authorities rigorously censored all media, from print media to online games. With the assistance of private technology and internet companies, officials mastered the use of facial recognition, real-name registration systems and big data to keep people under indiscriminate mass surveillance and control. In July, a draft regulation on China's social credit system proposed punishing citizens for disseminating information that "violates social morality" or causes "adverse social impacts". In January, Chinese users reported that they had been threatened, detained or warned for being active on Twitter – a social media platform officially banned in the country.
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We need to work with them but we should not be entering into secretive agreements based on 'building a global community of a shared future'.
Really, Dan is normally good but his willingness to do or say anything to get Chinese money looks more like the actions of a sex worker than a diplomat.
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He'd be stepping on CIA/Blackwater toes if they got into the business of training Jihadis.
Regardless, Ima file this into the "conservatives getting mad at things they made up" folder.
It's interesting that it's American tech companies and PMCs which have been helping the Chinese develop this tech and perfect their detention security regimes.We are talking about an authoritarian superpower with no regards to democracy, human rights or freedom of expression.
The human rights situation continued to be marked by a systematic crackdown on dissent. The justice system remained plagued by unfair trials and torture and other ill-treatment in detention. China still classified information on its extensive use of the death penalty as a state secret. China legalized arbitrary and secret detention, such as “residential surveillance in a designated location” and an extra-judicial system of detention (liuzhi). These procedures allowed for prolonged incommunicado detention and increased the risk of torture and other ill-treatment and forced “confessions”. Repression conducted under the guise of “anti-separatism” or “counter-terrorism” remained particularly severe in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region (Xinjiang) and Tibetan-populated areas (Tibet). Reports about the detention of Uyghurs, Kazakhs and other predominantly Muslim ethnic groups continued in Xinjiang despite the government’s claim that it may eventually phase out purported “vocational training centres”, also known as “transformation-through-education” centres. From early 2017, after the Xinjiang government had enacted a regulation enforcing so-called “de-extremification”, an estimated up to one million Uyghurs, Kazakhs and other ethnic minority people were sent to these internment camps.LGBTI people faced widespread discrimination and stigma in society. Due to inadequate medical services, they took serious risks by seeking unregulated and improper gender-affirming treatments. LGBTI people also faced abuses in the form of "conversion therapy”.The government continued to intimidate, harass, and prosecute human rights defenders and independent NGOs, including raids on their homes and offices. Human rights defenders’ family members were subjected to police surveillance, harassment, detention and restrictions on their freedom of movement.The government strengthened its restrictions to the rights to freedom of expression, association and peaceful assembly. The authorities rigorously censored all media, from print media to online games. With the assistance of private technology and internet companies, officials mastered the use of facial recognition, real-name registration systems and big data to keep people under indiscriminate mass surveillance and control. In July, a draft regulation on China's social credit system proposed punishing citizens for disseminating information that "violates social morality" or causes "adverse social impacts". In January, Chinese users reported that they had been threatened, detained or warned for being active on Twitter – a social media platform officially banned in the country.
Human rights in China
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We need to work with them but we should not be entering into secretive agreements based on 'building a global community of a shared future'.
And here it is.
Morrison being a CCP toady, allowing a known Chinese government asset to remain in parliament and getting praised by the Chinese government for it. Much like Abbott taking bribes from Chinese businessmen, it all gets swept into the "too hard" bag for the Australian punditry.
All that reinforces that we need a proper ICAC that also looks at foreign influence.
Both parties will have a lot of members ending up in jail but hopefully we will end up with better pollies in thr future rather than thr ALP, LNP and Greens being full of people looking after their own backpocket.
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I agree, we need a federal ICAC.
The point was that people like you only care about Chinese influence when it's the opposition doing it, in your case, your unhealthy obsession with Andrews
Chinese has infiltrated both sides of the party, liberals are as corrupt as Labour when it comes to this issue, if you are frothing at the mouth about Andrews, then you should be even angrier about an actual CCP agent sitting in the House of reps for the Liberals
But you won't, because you only care about using chinese influence as a partisan stick to beat your opposition, which is the entire point that you chose to miss. You'll do a 180 and defend the Chinese if it benefits you politically, see Abbott
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How many of those Rolex Watches did the LNP Politicians get anyway?
Who does Andrew Robb work for?
Its beyond obsession with Andrews. Surely its a concerted campaign to bring down (or tarnish) the ALPs most popular leader
Especially as News limited is ceasing printing its newspapers
Especially as News limited is ceasing printing its newspapers
Yep, it always always been a coordinated partisan hit job
I don't even like Labour but conservatives are full of s**t as per usual
Sorry on what basis are you saying i have an obsession with Andrews?
He is green lighting backroom deals on Chinese investments the federal government told him not to do. It is actually not that complicated.
If the liberals would do worse? well then they would get called on that. This is how democracy and our system works.
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Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest.
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While I think he's done well with covid, this CCP s**t is concrete evidence that his fans will defend him at all costs, even if it means doing a 180 on their own principles!
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