Howletts wife speaks her mind:

[TheMightyEagles]

Im not claiming theyre innocent you clown! I'm claiming they had a right to no significant fault like the Cronulla players, because both groups didnt know they were doped

You are conflating two issues. I explained the no significant fault defense above. The Cronulla team did not rely on this defense, but rather provided substantial assistance to ASADA in their investigation. Under the AFL Anti-Doping Code, when a player “has provided substantial assistance to the AFL, Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority, or another anti-doping organisation which results in that organisation discovering or establishing an anti-doping rule violation by another”, then the two years ban may be reduced by a maximum of 75%.

The Essendon players chose to drag this out to the CAS determination stage, which is why they didn't get the benefit of that discount.

 

[mxett]

So not declaring it means it didn't happen?

no, it means declaring is optional

 

[ChubbMuff]

no, it means declaring is optional

Right, so if you get caught cheating - like 34 EFC players - you get no discount because you were deceitful.

"While anything found in an athlete's body is the athlete's responsibility"

 

[mxett]

You are conflating two issues. I explained the no significant fault defense above. The Cronulla team did not rely on this defense, but rather provided substantial assistance to ASADA in their investigation. Under the AFL Anti-Doping Code, when a player “has provided substantial assistance to the AFL, Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority, or another anti-doping organisation which results in that organisation discovering or establishing an anti-doping rule violation by another”, then the two years ban may be reduced by a maximum of 75%.

The Essendon players chose to drag this out to the CAS determination stage, which is why they didn't get the benefit of that discount.

McDevitt claimed they received discounted suspension because they were duped, so they therefore qualified for no significant fault. I posted his comments in this thread. He never said it was for substantial assistance. In fact Cronulla players refused to be interviewed at first, delaying the investigation by months

 

[evo]

young wife sticks up for her fame/ cash machine on twitter. Hardly worthy of a 9 page thread, surely.

 

[mxett]

Right, so if you get caught cheating - like 34 EFC players - you get no discount because you were deceitful.

"While anything found in an athlete's body is the athlete's responsibility"

Im not claiming they werent doped, Im claiming their claim they didnt know is correct, and they should have been given no significant fault discount

 

[stfan]

except he's quoting WADA's documents, not ASADA

Geeze do we have to join the dots on everything.

Exactly whose Code do you think ASADA enforces? And the AFL signed up to which Drug Code? Yes the WADA Drug Code.

From the AFL Drug Code.
Signatory means an entity signing the WADA Code and agreeing to comply with the WADA Code, including the International Olympic Committee, international federations, International Paralympic committee, national Olympic committees, national Paralympic committees, major event organisations, National Anti-Doping Organisations and WADA.

 

[premiershipvigil]

young wife sticks up for her fame/ cash machine on twitter. Hardly worthy of a 9 page thread, surely.

Depends on the wife. If the you had a wife who had a husband who had a problem and that wife knew the answer to that problem you would probably post 9 pages as well.

 

[Doss]

This does not need a thread. There are myriad other places on this board where the exact same conversations are being had and a comment on Instagram from the wife of one of the players is not reason to have a separate thread.

And, there's been some pretty distasteful rubbish in here too.

Closed.