Society/Culture Hypocrisy of the left and right

[Andrew Birch]

 

[Andrew Birch]

Standing your ground is 'aggressive' according to far-left extremist.

 

[Andrew Birch]

 

[Opts]

It's great top see the left embracing democracy and accepting election results.

 

[Andrew Birch]

 

[Work Hardery]

It's great top see the left embracing democracy and accepting election results.

Sadiq Khan's London.

 

[Opts]

If the illegal immigrants were really concerned about being separated from their children then why did they decide to climb the wall in the first place. They knew what the consequences were beforehand because, unlike the leftist politicians, he was open and honest about what he would do during his campaign.

 

[Andrew Birch]

 

[Work Hardery]

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Standard deranged leftists.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Think you need to read the thread title and go find the appropriate thread.

Imagine being over 40 years old and spending your entire time in an internet forum posting alt right memes and defence

 

[skybeau]

The only hypocrite in this thread is Snake.

If these were "leftists" derailing his thread, he'd be coming down on them with furious anger. But it's the rightists. And all Snake does is wail about his thread.

Cmon, get stuck into them. Otherwise people might begin to suspect that despite your well established air of superiority about your transcendence of the left/right paradigm, that you may possess a distinct affinity for these delightful right wing posters, even when they derail your thread.

 

[Andrew Birch]

The only hypocrite in this thread is Snake.

If these were "leftists" derailing his thread, he'd be coming down on them with furious anger. But it's the rightists. And all Snake does is wail about his thread.

Cmon, get stuck into them. Otherwise people might begin to suspect that despite your well established air of superiority about your transcendence of the left/right paradigm, that you may possess a distinct affinity for these delightful right wing posters, even when they derail your thread.

 

[Snake_Baker]

This thread has leapt the tracks and landed on another planet.

 

[Snake_Baker]

The only hypocrite in this thread is Snake.

If these were "leftists" derailing his thread, he'd be coming down on them with furious anger. But it's the rightists. And all Snake does is wail about his thread.

Cmon, get stuck into them. Otherwise people might begin to suspect that despite your well established air of superiority about your transcendence of the left/right paradigm, that you may possess a distinct affinity for these delightful right wing posters, even when they derail your thread.

Settle down, and let me log in first flog.

 

[Rusty Brookes]

It strikes me as odd that there is a 'Hypocrisy of the Right' thread AND a 'Hypocrisy of the Left and Right' thread on this forum, but no 'Hypocrisy of the Left' thread. Come to think of it, I think this thread was originally titled 'Hypocrisy of the Left' before someone changed it. Why can't there be a thread just for pointing out Leftist hypocrisy? All things being equal, of course....oh wait

Settle down. There is very much a hypocrisy of the Left thread:

Society/Culture - Hypocrisy of The Left - part 3

This is Part 3 of this thread. Started in Part 1: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/hypocrisy-of-the-left.1079388/ Continued from Part 2: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/hypocrisy-of-the-left-part-2.1141142/

www.bigfooty.com

 

[raskolnikov]

It strikes me as odd that there is a 'Hypocrisy of the Right' thread AND a 'Hypocrisy of the Left and Right' thread on this forum, but no 'Hypocrisy of the Left' thread. Come to think of it, I think this thread was originally titled 'Hypocrisy of the Left' before someone changed it. Why can't there be a thread just for pointing out Leftist hypocrisy? All things being equal, of course....oh wait

There's 3-4 anti-left threads on the first page and you're having a sook because there's not one that's titled "Hypocrisy of the Left"?

Weren't you a spec mod at one stage? Good decision by the powers that be.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Surprise factor: Nil

Ant behavior might mirror political polarization

by Liz Fuller-Wright, Princeton University

Could the division of labor in an anthill be driven by the same social dynamics governing the gap between liberals and conservatives? That was the surprising question tackled by Princeton biologists Chris Tokita and Corina Tarnita.

"Our findings suggest that division of labor and political polarization—two social phenomena not typically considered together—may actually be driven by the same process," said Tokita, a graduate student in ecology and evolutionary biology. "Division of labor is seen as a benefit to societies, while political polarization usually isn't, but we found that the same dynamics could theoretically give rise to them both."

In a paper published today in the Journal of the Royal Society Interface, Tokita and Tarnita examined two forces known to drive political polarization and added them to an existing model for how division of labor arises in ant communities. They found that a feedback between these two forces simultaneously resulted in division of labor and polarized social networks.

"It suggests that maybe there's a common process underlying the organization of societies," Tokita said.

The two forces are "social influence," the tendency of individuals to become similar to those they interact with, and "interaction bias," which leads us to interact with others who are already like us. The researchers combined those with a "response threshold" model of ant social dynamics, in which ants choose their activities based on which need meets a critical internal threshold.

In other words, if ants A and B have both checked community food stores recently and checked on their young recently, but A has a lower threshold for hunger while B has a lower threshold for worrying about the health of the larvae, A will head out foraging while B rushes back to the nursery. Over time, this leads A to interact with other hunger-sensitive ants, who become the foraging team, while B spends more time with other care providers, and they become the nurses. Combine that with social influence and interaction bias, and the gulf between the foragers and the nurses grows steadily wider.

Princeton computational ecologist Chris Tokita and his adviser Corina Tarnita found that division of labor and political polarization -- two social phenomena not typically considered together -- may be driven by the same processes. Their model shows that the emergence of division of labor and polarized social networks both require the combination of social influence and interaction bias. As both social influence and interaction bias increase, the behavior of individuals becomes more specialized (i.e., biased) and individuals increasingly interact with those who are similar. 'Social influence' refers to the tendency of individuals to become similar to those they interact with, and 'interaction bias' leads us to interact with others who are already like us. Credit: Chris Tokita, Princeton University

When this leads to societies eating well and raising healthy young, it's called division of labor and heralded as a cornerstone of civilization. When it leads to tribalism, it's called a breakdown of civil discourse.

But the underlying forces might be the same, say the researchers.

"Social insect colonies thrive on the heterogeneity that leads to division of labor, but sometimes they need to make decisions that have to be embraced by the whole nest," said Tarnita, an associate professor of ecology and evolutionary biology. "For example, when honeybees need to move their nest to a new location, it would be problematic if the colony couldn't reach consensus and it ended up splitting,"

So what the researchers wondered next was how the social forces that polarized the ants into doing different tasks could be tamed to rebuild consensus when that was needed. Their model predicted a clear way back from polarization: fight the tendency to interact only with those who are similar, and be willing to let your internal thresholds shift a little.

"Our model predicts that if you interact with those who are different from you, over time, you'll become similar to each other," Tokita said. "It basically erases those differences."

It even applies to scientists and sociologists, he added. "One of the things I hope comes from this project is that it causes people in different fields, coming at and thinking about social behavior from different perspectives, to talk to each other a little more. In this project, we learned a lot by borrowing theories from sociology and political science, and combining them with our biological model."

Of ants and men: Ant behavior might mirror political polarization

Could the division of labor in an anthill be driven by the same social dynamics governing the gap between liberals and conservatives? That was the surprising question tackled by Princeton biologists Chris Tokita and Corina Tarnita.

phys.org

 

[Snake_Baker]

 

[Snake_Baker]

Four traits that both populations of these idiots have in common:

1. Psychological distress
2. Cognitive simplicity
3. Overconfidence
4. Intolerance

 

[Gethelred]

Four traits that both populations of these idiots have in common:

1. Psychological distress
2. Cognitive simplicity
3. Overconfidence
4. Intolerance

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Thought you weren't about pseudoscience. That sounds and looks like bullshit to me.

 

[Taylor]

Thought you weren't about pseudoscience. That sounds and looks like bullshit to me.

Are you challenging the paper?

 

[Gethelred]

Are you challenging the paper?

I've not finished reading it yet, give me a mo.

 

[Gethelred]

Having read it, it is fairly well supported, if a discussion on other people's findings.

Beyond that, don't know what it has to do with they hypocrisy of either side, let alone them both.

 

[Taylor]

It would seem to indicate that it would be in the interests of extreme ideological supporters to keep people in poor living conditions.