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Another typical leftist hypocracy.

Your completely fine with the Muslims treating their women second class abusing them through control and forcing them to be shameful of their bodies by covering them up, you say you have no right to interfere.

Yet the left are happy to go around telling everyone else in the country that their actions are someway evil and wrong. Everything is bigoted, racist, homophobic, transphobic, sexist. Telling everyone how to think speak act and interfere with violence if they express freedom of speech. Yet when Muslim women are oppressed in such ways, you want to sit back and not get involved calling it freedom of choice.

Talk about the hypocrisy of the left at its best.
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In practical terms, what would you like to see?

Because banning religious wear is just the different side of the same coin.
I have acknowledged the sensitivity.
But I would like to see feminists and those who support womens' rights come out and at the very least raise the issue. An adult women's decision to wear a head covering is one thing - a child's is another. We are a secular culture and children should have the right to determine their own beliefs.

I am certainly not advocating legal censure of any sort only that our leaders have the maturity to discuss the matter in the way we have over the last 3-4 posts.
 

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I have acknowledged the sensitivity.
But I would like to see feminists and those who support womens' rights come out and at the very least raise the issue. An adult women's decision to wear a head covering is one thing - a child's is another. We are a secular culture and children should have the right to determine their own beliefs.
Feminist's do raise the issue. They rarely identify islam in particular because institutionalised religion as whole treats women like shit.

And what is the problem with parents allowing their daughters to wear head scarves? Other parents send their kids to church, send them to catholic church, make them go to confession and all that.

If you want to enforce atheism, it won't work. If you want to legislate against one religion, you know what that leads to.
 

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I have acknowledged the sensitivity.
But I would like to see feminists and those who support womens' rights come out and at the very least raise the issue. An adult women's decision to wear a head covering is one thing - a child's is another. We are a secular culture and children should have the right to determine their own beliefs.

I am certainly not advocating legal censure of any sort only that our leaders have the maturity to discuss the matter in the way we have over the last 3-4 posts.
No more religious schools, no more teaching children nonsense such as creationism, no more ingraining intolerance in the minds of young children ... what a great leap forward for humanity that would be. They'd never stand for it.
 
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No more religious schools, no more teaching children nonsense such as evolution, no more ingraining intolerance in the minds of young children ... what a great leap forward for humanity that would be. They'd never stand for it.
You were on the right track until you said evolution. Replace it with creationism and you would be spot on.
 

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You were on the right track until you said evolution. Replace it with creationism and you would be spot on.
Thanks for pointing that out, one must always be careful when changing one end of the sentence to make sure you change the other :$
 

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Feminist's do raise the issue. They rarely identify islam in particular because institutionalised religion as whole treats women like shit.

And what is the problem with parents allowing their daughters to wear head scarves? Other parents send their kids to church, send them to catholic church, make them go to confession and all that.

If you want to enforce atheism, it won't work. If you want to legislate against one religion, you know what that leads to.
In my experience women are uncomfortable talking about this at all. Like so many other things - people are afraid of having the wrong opinion.
 

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No more religious schools, no more teaching children nonsense such as creationism, no more ingraining intolerance in the minds of young children ... what a great leap forward for humanity that would be. They'd never stand for it.
No more teaching kids about the climate change fairy and that they can decide if they are a boy or girl or that they can cave have 2 mummies or 2 daddy's if they want .

How about we also teach kids the failure of socialism too ?
 

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No more teaching kids about the climate change fairy and that they can decide if they are a boy or girl or that they can cave have 2 mummies and 2 daddy's if they want .

How about we also teach kids the failure of socialism too ?
So basically, you want the entire curriculum to be what bull shit mainstream tabloid articles you read in the lunchbreak of your job which your dad gave you?
 

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Another typical leftist hypocracy.

Your completely fine with the Muslims treating their women second class abusing them through control and forcing them to be shameful of their bodies by covering them up, you say you have no right to interfere.

Yet the left are happy to go around telling everyone else in the country that their actions are someway evil and wrong. Everything is bigoted, racist, homophobic, transphobic, sexist. Telling everyone how to think speak act and interfere with violence if they express freedom of speech. Yet when Muslim women are oppressed by Muslim men in such ways, you want to sit back and not get involved calling it freedom of choice.

Talk about the hypocrisy of the left at its best.
You really have a problem with nuance, don't you?

It isn't hypocrisy to be opposed to bigotry within Islam and also opposed to bigotry against Muslims. These aren't mutually exclusive positions to take. The idea that bigotry against Muslims is the solution to bigotry within Islam is incredibly misguided.

Islam is not some monolithic structure. There are elements within the religion that are totally repressive and sexist. There are also liberal elements too. Just like basically every religion in the world. I don't judge all Christians by the actions and beliefs of the Westboro Baptist Church. You seem to like to tar with a very thick brush, though. As soon as someone says "wait, maybe this situation isn't quite so black and white" you shout out "hypocrisy!".
 

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Feminist's do raise the issue. They rarely identify islam in particular because institutionalised religion as whole treats women like shit.

And what is the problem with parents allowing their daughters to wear head scarves? Other parents send their kids to church, send them to catholic church, make them go to confession and all that.

If you want to enforce atheism, it won't work. If you want to legislate against one religion, you know what that leads to.
A brilliant article once again but Rita Panahi , a Iranian born refugee who knows what its like to be forced to put on the Burqa.

"It’s one thing to be perturbed by Hanson’s prank but to defend the burqa, a tool of oppression inflicted on millions of disempowered women around the world, is unconscionable".

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/op...n/news-story/f1118214e57c3e97b6c5805b343845e8

It is a tool of oppression only used in the Islamic faith .

But I have said this many times the left don't really care about so called victim groups that is all for show, the goal is destroy western society and bring about a communist utopia.
 

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A brilliant article once again but Rita Panahi , a Iranian born refugee who knows what its like to be forced to put on the Burqa.

"It’s one thing to be perturbed by Hanson’s prank but to defend the burqa, a tool of oppression inflicted on millions of disempowered women around the world, is unconscionable".

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/op...n/news-story/f1118214e57c3e97b6c5805b343845e8
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/rita-panahi/defending-the-burqa-promotes-oppression/news-story/f1118214e57c3e97b6c5805b343845e8
As per usual, this defense of western civ is behind a paywall. Too bad, so sad.

But I have said this many times the left don't really care about so called victim groups that is all for show, the goal is destroy western society and bring about a communist utopia.
I 100% agree.

Although one issue; communist is Western. So we want to replace capitalism with another western ideology, which is comunism.
 

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Oh gee, Rita Panahi, a veritable font of wisdom on the conservative side of politics along with such luminaries as Andrew Bolt and Miranda Devine.
You seen the vial disgusting abuse she receives from the left ? the way the left turn on these so called victim groups when they don't fall into line with them just shows how the left are not about principal at all .
 

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In my experience women are uncomfortable talking about this at all. Like so many other things - people are afraid of having the wrong opinion.
The left don't seem to have a problem talking about any problems caused by white straight men.
 

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You seen the vial disgusting abuse she receives from the left ? the way the left turn on these so called victim groups when they don't fall into line with them just shows how the left are not about principal at all .
that was an example of disgusting abuse?
 

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How do the left not love this man ? can we just outsource Australia to him ???????

"North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un just stated that the “Nuclear Button is on his desk at all times.” Will someone from his depleted and food starved regime please inform him that I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his, and my Button works! "

He is a real leader who will fight tooth and nail to keep his people safe and has the economy breaking record after record .
 

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How do the left not love this man ? can we just outsource Australia to him ???????

"North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un just stated that the “Nuclear Button is on his desk at all times.” Will someone from his depleted and food starved regime please inform him that I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his, and my Button works! "

He is a real leader who will fight tooth and nail to keep his people safe and has the economy breaking record after record .
He's ok. I like him standing up to a dictator like Trump but I was a bit turned off by him shooting opponents with anti-aircraft guns.
 

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So basically, you want the entire curriculum to be what bull shit mainstream tabloid articles you read in the lunchbreak of your job which your dad gave you?
and you want it to be about what some far left wing Marxist believes .

My approach to religion is simple, let the parents decide.
 
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