Hypocrisy of The Left - part 2

[Power Raid]

You wouldn't reckon the timing of Halloween has something to do with All Souls Day - reinforces the Flying Spaghetti Monster and associated myths

I was happily ignorant thinking it had no christian foundation

thanks for ruining it for me!

 

[Chief]

read and weep
http://www.xyz.net.au/bill-leak-nailed-it/

This sort of thing is well known.

Abuse, addiction, neglect. It all happens.

So what does Leak do with his place as a privileged commentator? Denigrates all aboriginal people with a shitty cartoon.

What a hero.

Then he is flabbergasted that people are unhappy about it.


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[kwikfix]

Oh chief, please, no one is saying all aboriginal people are dead beat alcoholics but go out to one of these communities and have a look, if it doesn't break your heart, your not human. Go to Warburton, these people are our own and nobody gives a s**t about them.

It's a bloody disgrace and we should all hang our heads in shame.

Honestly if these people were refugees, the ABC along with every lefty in Australia would be out there bleating and so they should.

 

[Power Raid]

Oh chief, please, no one is saying all aboriginal people are dead beat alcoholics but go out to one of these communities and have a look, if it doesn't break your heart, your not human. Go to Warburton, these people are our own and nobody gives a s**t about them.

It's a bloody disgrace and we should all hang our heads in shame.

Honestly if these people were refugees, the ABC along with every lefty in Australia would be out there bleating and so they should.

1966-76 was a decade all Australian's should remember with a heavy heart.

The governments of the day thought they were doing the right thing with equal rights but this should have been managed, implemented gradually and NO sit down money. Instead of having a problem that could have been resolved in a decade, we now have a problem that will last a century or more.

Sadly 50 years on we still have sit down money for indigenous and others. When will we learn?

 

[Number37]

1966-76 was a decade all Australian's should remember with a heavy heart.

The governments of the day thought they were doing the right thing with equal rights but this should have been managed, implemented gradually and NO sit down money. Instead of having a problem that could have been resolved in a decade, we now have a problem that will last a century or more.

Sadly 50 years on we still have sit down money for indigenous and others. When will we learn?

What about the years 1788-1966?

 

[WA ROO]

What about the years 1788-1966?

Tell us from your first hand knowledge

 

[Power Raid]

This sort of thing is well known.

Abuse, addiction, neglect. It all happens.

So what does Leak do with his place as a privileged commentator? Denigrates all aboriginal people with a shitty cartoon.

What a hero.

Then he is flabbergasted that people are unhappy about it.


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The issue is very real and very confronting, just like the cartoon.

Personally I don't think the cartoon helps but perhaps if people gave a s**t, we would force our governments to act. Given this issue could be fixed within a decade or two if we stopped sit down money, why is it not happening?

Is it because people aren't aware? don't give a s**t? or don't want to make a hard decision?

I guess it is easier to not look and shut down people who want to communicate the facts; that way we can ignore the issue and let another generation suffer.

 

[Power Raid]

What about the years 1788-1966?

The indigenous peoples have always had it tough and always been given less opportunity and thus the trigger for equal rights.

Was it fair that they received less pay than ordinary workers on homesteads? clearly no. but the workers and their families had structure, home cooked food and work.

This structure and way of life ended as the homesteads couldn't afford 90% of the workforce, on equal pay, let alone their families. The government shouldn't have just legislated change, they should have managed it. Tying welfare to training, education and "work for welfare" and subsidised work should have been the way for the youth. For those too old for change, subsidised work on the homestead options should have been on offer.

So in answer to your question, the changes should have been about improving the lives of the indigenous people not destroying it.

Attesting to our failure of 1966-76 equal rights policy is seen in the background of our Indigenous leaders. Most Indigenous leaders, or their parents, are from the stolen generation. This suggests we let down an entire group of people as we were all heart and no brain................lazy politics at its best.

 

[Number37]

The indigenous peoples have always had it tough and always been given less opportunity and thus the trigger for equal rights.

Was it fair that they received less pay than ordinary workers on homesteads? clearly no. but the workers and their families had structure, home cooked food and work.

This structure and way of life ended as the homesteads couldn't afford 90% of the workforce, on equal pay, let alone their families. The government shouldn't have just legislated change, they should have managed it. Tying welfare to training, education and "work for welfare" and subsidised work should have been the way for the youth. For those too old for change, subsidised work on the homestead options should have been on offer.

So in answer to your question, the changes should have been about improving the lives of the indigenous people not destroying it.

Attesting to our failure of 1966-76 equal rights policy is seen in the background of our Indigenous leaders. Most Indigenous leaders, or their parents, are from the stolen generation. This suggests we let down an entire group of people as we were all heart and no brain................lazy politics at its best.

That is an intriguing proposition...that we acted 'with all heart' and yet made things worse.


You only need to look at the debate around Islam to see that there is no way that we would accept someone coming into our country, destroying our way of life, then telling us to conform to their way because that is the way it is going to be from now on.
The same people that rail against Islam are the ones that completely to refuse to accept that some indigenous folk are not at all interested in white man's way.

 

[quotemokc]

That is an intriguing proposition...that we acted 'with all heart' and yet made things worse.


You only need to look at the debate around Islam to see that there is no way that we would accept someone coming into our country, destroying our way of life, then telling us to conform to their way because that is the way it is going to be from now on.
The same people that rail against Islam are the ones that completely to refuse to accept that some indigenous folk are not at all interested in white man's way.

Asian's, Indians (not American), Arabs etc all built civilizations and conquered others. It is hardly the white mans way, it is most of the worlds way.

 

[CM86]

no one is saying all aboriginal people are dead beat alcoholics but go out to one of these communities and have a look, if it doesn't break your heart, your not human.

I was just recently out living and volunteering in a remote community. It is nothing like what the cartoon showed, or what you described.

When have you ever been in one of these communities? And can you prove that you were?

And ffs...
"no one is saying all aboriginal people are dead beat alcoholics --- but"
No wonder the s**t that leaks out of Leak, appeals to you!

 

[Power Raid]

That is an intriguing proposition...that we acted 'with all heart' and yet made things worse.


You only need to look at the debate around Islam to see that there is no way that we would accept someone coming into our country, destroying our way of life, then telling us to conform to their way because that is the way it is going to be from now on.
The same people that rail against Islam are the ones that completely to refuse to accept that some indigenous folk are not at all interested in white man's way.

1966-76 probably says more about politicians than our indigenous friends.

It was either gross mis-management, a cheap political point scoring exercise or both. Sadly 50 years on we still haven't changed our politician's motivations.

Yes people are free to live however they like but society does have rules. Personally I'm not comfortable turning a blind eye to alcohol foetal positioning or parents who don't feed their kids. Especially if the cycle started when our politicians wanted cheap point scoring without hard work or planning to back up their decisions.

 

[Number37]

1966-76 probably says more about politicians than our indigenous friends.

It was either gross mis-management, a cheap political point scoring exercise or both. Sadly 50 years on we still haven't changed our politician's motivations.

Yes people are free to live however they like but society does have rules. Personally I'm not comfortable turning a blind eye to alcohol foetal positioning or parents who don't feed their kids. Especially if the cycle started when our politicians wanted cheap point scoring without hard work or planning to back up their decisions.

What happened after 1966 has everything to do with what happened before 1966.

 

[Power Raid]

What happened after 1966 has everything to do with what happened before 1966.

yep sure.

but starting with a problem that could have been resolved within a decade but replacing it with a problem that might be resolved in 100 years plus is hardly a great achievement.

 

[Number37]

yep sure.

but starting with a problem that could have been resolved within a decade but replacing it with a problem that might be resolved in 100 years plus is hardly a great achievement.

Indigenous people are deeply scarred by 200+ years of what amounts to oppression.
Not sure how you think that would all be fixed by waving some sort of magic wand.

 

[Power Raid]

Indigenous people are deeply scarred by 200+ years of what amounts to oppression.
Not sure how you think that would all be fixed by waving some sort of magic wand.

I find it interesting to work with 65-85 yo aborigines who are strong men, educated men and proud men.

then in the same camps the 25 yo men have to go back to bed at 10am, not because they are drunk or hung over. Rather they have diabetes and are exhausted.

if the problem was 200 years of oppression, maths says the 65 and 85 yo's would have issues.

I'm not suggesting aborigines haven't been oppressed or wronged but the problem we see today was caused by something that happened between 66-76.

 

[CM86]

I find it interesting to work with 85 yo aborigines who are strong men

Bullshit.

Back this up with some form of evidence, or admit you just made up bullshit anecdotal evidence to try and support your position.

 

[Gough]

I'm interested in hearing how 180 years of Indigenous dispossession could have been sorted in 10.

 

[kwikfix]

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

You wouldn't reckon the timing of Halloween has something to do with All Souls Day - reinforces the Flying Spaghetti Monster and associated myths

Hallowe'en - the evening before All Hallows Day. Christians invented the day to co-opt then erase the pre-Christian Celtic festival marking the end of the harvest season (Samhain).

 

[quotemokc]

How are the lefties coping with Castro`s death?

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

How are the lefties coping with Castro`s death?

People live, ergo they die. One of the absolute absolutes in this world, I'm afraid. Castro's Cuba could have been a far better place had U.S beligerence not pushed them so utterly into the Soviet Union's orbit.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

How are the lefties coping with Castro`s death?

Pretty well.

He defeated all of his enemies, lived til 90, saw Cuba free from American/Mafia involvement, saw Cuban lives dramatically improved, was the first to formally make ties with Mandela (RIP also) and dies with the respect of billions of people.

What have you done?

 

[quotemokc]

I havent killed anyone.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

What I don't get about Milo and his fans is that they understand there are global elites that are running a rigged game to profit themselves.

That's great, socialists have been saying the same thing for about 150 years. So why can't Milo and his fans bring themselves to say the problem is capitalism? Why do they pretend its something else?