Hypocrisy of The Left - part 2

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Not to mention the hundreds of fake articles and fake polls suggesting that Clinton had pretty much already won the presidency.
That all started with the DNC railroading Sanders to ensure Clinton got the nod. With a compliant media doing their bidding.

I wonder how many doubt Sanders beating Trump?

Nice one DNC.
 

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Ah, so you're just another useful idiot of the liberal elite. Keep screaming fake news every time you see an article with some annoying truths in it, buddy.
Thing is, without proper evidence from reputable journalists it can be difficult to ascertain the truth of claims.

Compare and contrast the article you linked with this paragraph:

Fields accused Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski of grabbing her arm so hard she bruised as she attempted to question the candidate at an event. She wrote an account of the incident, as did a Washington Post reporter who said he witnessed it. Politico also published an audio transcript that purportedly captures the interaction and moments immediately afterward.


Do you get it yet? Claim, eye witness, transcript of audio, no witnesses refuting the claim.

That is how we know to a pretty high level of certainty that this event happened.

Of course this isn't to say that rape allegations need some Sharia law level of witnesses, but you have to make some judgement based on the fact it is a tabloid looking for clicks and sales.
 

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https://heatst.com/politics/exclusi...staffers-who-aided-woman-having-heart-attack/

The peaceful left strikes again.

When they're not punching women in the face at feminist rallies, assaulting people for putting out fires they started, setting women's hair alight for supporting Trump, smashing out windows and burning cars, they're jeering the people who come to the aid of their own. These people care more about their obsession with being perpetually outraged than the safety of others.
But point out that the US President assaults women and brags about it and ohhh boy... "Clinton did something similar to that, too!"

A few incidents by hot heads means "dur left is all totally rotten".

And the man who lashed out claims he hit the camera, not the reporter.
 

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By Wednesday afternoon, CNN had removed clips of Mudd's comments from the show's Twitter account and tweeted a correction.

"An analyst on our air earlier today asserted that Julian Assange was a pedophile, and regrets saying it," the network wrote. "In fact, CNN has no evidence to support that assertion. We regret the error."
Do you really believe that a correction is the as good as never having made the allegation in the first place?
 

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Do you really believe that a correction is the as good as never having made the allegation in the first place?
It's a horrendously bad assertion to make. But there is an editorial process in placed that this person contravened, and eventually led to a correction.

The fake news sites don't make mistakes, they knowingly churn out fake stuff that will get conservatives dills all emotional, and might even get to them to fire off rounds in a pizza store.
 

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Disagree with you there. This is a just a new name for a well known phenomenon that's been about for quite a while. See Flat Earth News by Nick Davies. A huge amount of news is just press release and PR and a substantial amount comes straight off the wire (as most papers then dont require a secondary source).

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...ws/flat-earth-news-by-nick-davies-782274.html
Seriously, you don't understand what fake news it. You're talking about sloppy journalism that relies on officialdom that benefits whichever government is in power.

That's not fake news. I've explained multiple times what it is, go back and have a read.
 

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Of all the crazy unretracted shit that has been hurled around in the last year, you're getting your knickers in a twist about this?
Yes, because if there were to be one news article written about me that I would hate the most, it would be to be named a pedophile.

So yeah, I assume it doesn't fit with what you like to complain about but I think it's reprehensible to falsely accuse someone of pedophilia.
 

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Yes, because if there were to be one news article written about me that I would hate the most, it would be to be named a pedophile.

So yeah, I assume it doesn't fit with what you like to complain about but I think it's reprehensible to falsely accuse someone of pedophilia.
Sure is. But that's why these fake news sites made up this Clinton child sex ring out of a pizza shop story. It made some people in parts of the county very, very upset.
 

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Sure is. But that's why these fake news sites made up this Clinton child sex ring out of a pizza shop story. It made some people in parts of the county very, very upset.
I think that had to do more with the weird amount of CP symbols that the pizza shops were using.

I certainly don't agree with implicating the Clintons in that though, despite all of their faults.
 

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Seriously, you don't understand what fake news it. You're talking about sloppy journalism that relies on officialdom that benefits whichever government is in power.

That's not fake news. I've explained multiple times what it is, go back and have a read.
Even the term "fake news" has been quickly snatched up by the people whose output it describes or who benefit from it. It then wraps sloppy or corner-cutting journalism in with outright manufactured click-bait.

Sloppy journalists are easier to dupe into running with an occasional fake story, but that isn't the same as making it up for clicks.
 

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Do you believe I said that?
I don't believe that a correction undoes the original remark.

If I made a post on my Facebook saying 'The owner of the website Smallfooty is a pedophile' and that got shared, but then later wrote a retraction, does that make it okay? What if people were still under the impression that it was true because they had not seen the retraction?
 

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I don't believe that a correction undoes the original remark.

If I made a post on my Facebook saying 'The owner of the website Smallfooty is a pedophile' and that got shared, but then later wrote a retraction, does that make it okay? What if people were still under the impression that it was true because they had not seen the retraction?
Of course it is far better not to have said it, but you're changing the argument.

You said that CNN called him a paedo for a specific reason.

This is just a conspiracy theory: CNN and the analyst they employed conspired to say this in order to damage Assange.

Where is your proof? Why would they have done such a weak job of it and damaged their own reputation when this could be done far more effectively in other ways?
 

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Of course it is far better not to have said it, but you're changing the argument.

You said that CNN called him a paedo for a specific reason.

This is just a conspiracy theory: CNN and the analyst they employed conspired to say this in order to damage Assange.

Where is your proof? Why would they have done such a weak job of it and damaged their own reputation when this could be done far more effectively in other ways?
I just reread my original post, I forgot what I had originally argued. While it does jaunt over into conspiratorial territory, I do personally think that there is active discrediting used against Assange. Do I have proof? No, but the same technique was used against Gary Webb following his expose of the CIA.

I also think that media organisations know that it barely damages their reputation following a retraction. Has this really hurt their reputation? Do you think less of CNN as a result of this?
 
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