Society/Culture Hypocrisy of The Left - part 3

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Royal Flush said:
The intolerance for one.
Anti social behaviour two.

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Intolerance is hypocritical innately? Antisocial behaviour is innately hypocritical?

Also, explain to me what that short video says about their position on unionism, economic distribution, etc. I'm not sure I trust Paul Joseph Watson's opinion on what constitutes 'the Left', so I'm going to need a little more to go on.
 
Gethelred said:
Intolerance is hypocritical innately? Antisocial behaviour is innately hypocritical?

Also, explain to me what that short video says about their position on unionism, economic distribution, etc. I'm not sure I trust Paul Joseph Watson's opinion on what constitutes 'the Left', so I'm going to need a little more to go on.
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It is hypocritical when you forcefully, behave like a raging lunatic disturbing the freedoms of those that wish to participate in a political rally within a Democratic society. Because your views differ

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Royal Flush said:
It is hypocritical when you forcefully, behave like a raging lunatic disturbing the freedoms of those that wish to participate in a political rally within a Democratic society. Because your views differ

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From the Cambridge dictionary, the definition of hypocrisy reads:

a situation in which someone pretends to believe something that they do not really believe, or that is the opposite of what they do or say at another time.
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How does what you're describing fit this definition?
 
Gethelred said:
From the Cambridge dictionary, the definition of hypocrisy reads:



How does what you're describing fit this definition?
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Hypocrisy of the left is a situation in which someone pretends to believe something (like free speech, freedom of expression,democracy, advocacy of equality ) that they do not really believe, or that is the opposite of what they do (abusing people at a political rally, like a raging lunatic) or say at another time

Is that simple enough for you?
 
Royal Flush said:
Hypocrisy of the left is a situation in which someone pretends to believe something (like free speech, freedom of expression,democracy, advocacy of equality ) that they do not really believe, or that is the opposite of what they do (abusing people at a political rally, like a raging lunatic) or say at another time

Is that simple enough for you?
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You're forcing it a bit - how do you know they believe any of the things you're attributing to them, and/or how do you know that they're trying to be perceived as believing freedom of speech, freedom of expression, or as an advocate of equality despite not believing in any of the above? How is abusing people at a political rally and behaving like a raging lunatic the opposite of democracy, or any of the others? - but for the sake of argument...

Let's say I concede that those people protesting (if that's what they were doing, and not performing an exceedingly odd live action art piece) are behaving hypocritically; how then are these people left wing, based upon their behaviour alone? Just because they are protesting (supposedly) a Republican event does not indicate they are left wing; one has all kinds of reasons to protest a Republican even, ones I think even you could get behind.

Here's my issue: Those people could be anarchists, from a libertarian bent, and there would a) be absolutely zero difference in their behaviour, and b) approximately zero hypocrisy from the angle you're arguing. Like the majority of the posts in here, you have to be willing to see the situation through a single lens, and you have to ignore nuance. I mean, as you stated this is the hypocrisy (part 1) of the left (part 2) thread. There are 2 criteria, and yet so many posts seem to fail to apply either criteria before just using this thread as a catchall for 'things I don't like and want to blame on the left'.

You've not really demonstrated that the people doing the ridiculousness (which, while exceedingly weird, isn't truly that far away from normal political protest) are left wing, and you've not really demonstrated that their behaviour is hypocritical. You're trying to shove a square peg in a round hole.
 
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Gethelred said:
You're forcing it a bit - how do you know they believe any of the things you're attributing to them; how is abusing people at a political rally and behaving like a raging lunatic the opposite of democracy? - but for the sake of argument...

Let's say I concede that those people protesting (if that's what they were doing, and not performing an exceedingly odd live action art piece) are behaving hypocritically; how then are these people left wing, based upon their behaviour alone? Just because they are protesting (supposedly) a Republican event does not indicate they are left wing; one has all kinds of reasons to protest a Republican even, ones I think even you could get behind.

Here's my issue: Those people could be anarchists, from a libertarian bent, and there would a) be absolutely zero difference in their behaviour, and b) approximately zero hypocrisy from the angle you're arguing. Like the majority of the posts in here, you have to be willing to see the situation through a single lens, and you have to ignore nuance. I mean, as you stated this is the hypocrisy (part 1) of the left (part 2) thread. There are 2 criteria, and yet so many posts seem to fail to apply either criteria before just using this thread as a catchall for 'things I don't like and want to blame on the left'.

You've not really demonstrated that the people doing the ridiculousness (which, while exceedingly weird, isn't truly that far away from normal political protest) are left wing, and you've not really demonstrated that their behaviour is hypocritical. You're trying to shove a square peg in a round hole.
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You are over generalising now. Pick your left agenda topic, and there will be hypocrisy as demonstrated in this thread. The behaviour and outrage in the girl in the clip is exactly what, is displayed in any of these groups, Antifa, Getup, Extinction rebellion , Feminists, Marxists, anti-globalist

like i said, very limited information on twitter as to exactly why the situation arose. So could be anything.
Unfortunately in this stupefied world of polar politics and extremism, which is something that those self declared lefties do, and do well.
They have defined themselves.

If your trying to give us a moderate definition of a left leaning person, then go for it. The nutcases of the world have hijacked it from you.
 
Royal Flush said:
You are over generalising now. Pick your left agenda topic, and there will be hypocrisy as demonstrated in this thread. The behaviour and outrage in the girl in the clip is exactly what, is displayed in any of these groups, Antifa, Getup, Extinction rebellion , Feminists, Marxists, anti-globalist

like i said, very limited information on twitter as to exactly why the situation arose. So could be anything.
Unfortunately in this stupefied world of polar politics and extremism, which is something that those self declared lefties do, and do well.
They have defined themselves.

If your trying to give us a moderate definition of a left leaning person, then go for it. The nutcases of the world have hijacked it from you.
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No, I'm saying that that short video of a bald person screaming is not an example of a) the Left, or b) hypocrisy, because it is difficult to actually prove hypocrisy without a manifesto of what an individual believes (to place them on the political spectrum) and an example of them behaving contrary to that.

Also, twitter is not the best place to look for politics, and the feed of Paul Joseph Watson isn't really either. Methinks people who go on there looking for examples of left/right wingers behaving badly will usually find it.
 

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douglyzia said:
Was the Iowa caucus app built by people who were hired based on diversity, rather than merit/ability?
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This the one built by Buttigeg, that only started having technical issues the second it became clear that Sanders would win the caucus?

See, this too is what I mean. It's hypocritical of Buttigeg/Biden to dispute the result because they lost; you don't need to reach for identity politics to get there. Whether those two are left wing is a different argument; Sanders, it could certainly be argued, but not those two.
 
Royal Flush said:
You are over generalising now. Pick your left agenda topic, and there will be hypocrisy as demonstrated in this thread. The behaviour and outrage in the girl in the clip is exactly what, is displayed in any of these groups, Antifa, Getup, Extinction rebellion , Feminists, Marxists, anti-globalist

like i said, very limited information on twitter as to exactly why the situation arose. So could be anything.
Unfortunately in this stupefied world of polar politics and extremism, which is something that those self declared lefties do, and do well.
They have defined themselves.

If your trying to give us a moderate definition of a left leaning person, then go for it. The nutcases of the world have hijacked it from you.
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No, it's more like, 'pick your left agenda topic, and there'll be someone from the right who will completely misunderstand it and shroud their ignorance in accusations of hypocrisy'.
 
Father Jack said:
No, it's more like, 'pick your left agenda topic, and there'll be someone from the right who will completely misunderstand it and shroud their ignorance in accusations of hypocrisy'.
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You could be smack bang centre and moderate and the displays of hypocrisy and emotionally tied irrationality prevail to extreme levels.


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Are far-left (socialist-supporting) ideologues just frustrated narcissists? I submit that they are. They have an unbelievable sense of entitlement and believe they are superior to the rest of society (Why? Well, just because) but, however, reality has relegated them to a status of being nothing more than a worthless pariah, a complete and utter loser that has failed at everything they have attempted in life.

So, what is the solution? Bash higher-achieving people in the back of the head when they're not looking, of course. And support a candidate (like Sanders) that promises to transfer (i.e. steal) wealth and status from those who have actually worked to achieve those through skill, merit and ability.

Just like extremist Muslims (and let me state that there are many nice, perfectly fine, Muslims) who have been indoctrinated by their mentally deficient imams that they are superior purely because of the fact that they were born Muslims, only to discover that they are not. The solution? JIHAD! Ishyallah! Death to the infidels (i.e. those who live a better life than I do which is intolerable because my imam told me I am better than them)!
 
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CM86 said:
No one is born a Muslim.
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You're a Muslim, aren't you? Who else would ever say something as stupid and imbecilic as that?

And I can tell, because you're a Muslim, you are anti-"Zionist". So, let me ask you. If you were "born" as an Israeli, would you not likely to be pro-"Zionist". Do you not think that many inherent beliefs are based on who people were "born" as?

You pretend to be virtuous, and to care about humanity as a whole but, let's face it, in all honesty, you care about yourself. Everything you "support" ultimately will benefit you on an individual level. For example, because you're a loser who is incapable of achieving anything through the agency of your own merit or ability, you support Antifa who could possibly (it's a long shot, but who knows?) grant you the privileges and entitlement you crave by bashing people in the back of the head when they're not looking.

Disclaimer: I am not Jewish.
 
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douglyzia said:
You're a Muslim, aren't you? Who else would ever say something as stupid and imbecilic as that?

And I can tell, because you're a Muslim, you are anti-"Zionist". So, let me ask you. If you were "born" as an Israeli, would you not likely to be pro-"Zionist". Do you not think that many inherent beliefs are based on who people were "born" as?

Disclaimer: I am not Jewish.
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Classic example of the "begging the question" logical fallacy
 
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