Society/Culture Hypocrisy of The Left - part 3

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I dunno - i was born to a wealthy family - i reckon im lucky af

Especially seeing as it was in australia and not some shitistan place.

I see people born to poor families and how unlucky that is - they dont have 1/10th of the opportunities ive had.
Was there any chance you would have been born in a poor family?
 

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It doesn't fit the narrative that nobody is responsible for anything.

But tread carefully, if someone were to mention that poor parents are responsible for a cycle of poor lives then someone might suggest we be kind and remove their children from them to break the cycle.

That never ends well.
 

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The circumstances of your birth is down to luck as far as you are concerned. You cannot affect anything your parents do before you're born or even for quite some time afterwards either. How is that a difficult concept to understand?

It doesn't fit the narrative that nobody is responsible for anything.

But tread carefully, if someone were to mention that poor parents are responsible for a cycle of poor lives then someone might suggest we be kind and remove their children from them to break the cycle.

That never ends well.
I think the suggestion is that all kids should have as much opportunity as possible so that they have as much chance as possible to reach their potential in life. Is that such a controversial sentiment? Or should they just be choosing their parents better?
 

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The circumstances of your birth is down to luck as far as you are concerned. You cannot affect anything your parents do before you're born or even for quite some time afterwards either. How is that a difficult concept to understand?
Luck only matters where an event can have a different outcome, which is determined by chance. Can you be born to anyone else?
 

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The circumstances of your birth is down to luck as far as you are concerned. You cannot affect anything your parents do before you're born or even for quite some time afterwards either. How is that a difficult concept to understand?



I think the suggestion is that all kids should have as much opportunity as possible so that they have as much chance as possible to reach their potential in life. Is that such a controversial sentiment? Or should they just be choosing their parents better?
I mother my children the same way my mother did, who learned it from her mother.

Their father learned from his dad who learned from his dad how to be a father.

How do you propose the cycle is broken of parents not knowing how to teach their children, or staying with their children so they can have the best chance at life?

I don't have hard data but I expect that children of broken home and single mums are more likely to end up as single mums and in broken families.

How do you break the cycle?
 

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Lefty councillors cutting down the amount of Christmas tree pick up spots this year compared to last year. A clear subversive tactic to discourage people from buying Christmas trees in the ongoing lefty war against Christmas and yet these bloodsuckers are still happy to take their Christmas holidays - Disgusted from Tunbridge Wells.
 

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The concept of being lucky enough to be born to well off parents is not hard to understand - its just an inconvenient truth to some.

It doesn't mean you need to feel guilty. I certainly don't. But I can acknowledge it how much it helped me i.e. good schooling, enabled me to take risks knowing i had a fall back etc. None of which I had any direct influence on myself.
 

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How do you break the cycle?
My mum was raised by abusive, absentee parents, had to fend for herself, grew up without parents in Willagee, back when it was real a destitute suburb (100% public housing). She left Perth at 17, drove across the Nullabor by herself, and never looked back.

Her method for mothering was 'do the opposite' of her own mum. You can change your circumstances and those of your children if you care.
 
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My mum was raised by abusive, absentee parents, had to fend for herself, grew up without parents in Willagee, back when it was real a destitute suburb (100% public housing). She left Perth at 17, drove across the Nullabor by herself, and never looked back.

Her method for mothering was 'do the opposite' of her own mum. You can change your circumstances and those of your children if you care.
What if your parents were Aboriginal?

Don't you believe that you are genetically superior to them?
 

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If your parents were Aboriginal, could you have become the person you are today?
No, because if my parents were aboriginal, I would not be me, I would be someone else.

Imagine if I was born 1000 years ago. Or 1000 years into the future. Or born as a cat. Or with a missing leg.
 

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Ooh. We're getting close to the point where you try to outwit your subject and end up confusing yourself.
You've just alluded to the point that breaking the cycle of certain negative situations in life can be accomplished by hard work...
I tried to see if you'd say Aboriginals could ever be your equal, via hard work...
Instead of the obvious "of course", you run around wringing your hands.


You pointed out that you believe Aboriginals could never understand calculus...
You pointed out that you believe that it's because their culture has failed to pass your litmus test.
 

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You've just alluded to the point that breaking the cycle of certain negative situations in life can be accomplished by hard work...
Not hard work, good decisions.

Stupid people make bad decisions.

Eg Chief pointed out that my mum drank bags of goon while pregnant, which gave me FASD. That was a bad decision. It is probably accumulated deleterious mutations from generations of inbreeding which caused Chief's problems. His are a product of bad luck, which explains his world view, mine bad decision making.
 

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Are they capable of making good decisions?
I believe that they are as capable and more so, than you.
Don't you?
Why would you ask that?...

If your parents were Aboriginal, could they have been intelligent enough to have made the same decisions that your mum did? Could they have set you on the same path? Could they have been as 'good' as your mum, at breaking the cycle?

Or... are they "obviously" not "intelligent" enough?,,,
 
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