Politics Hypocrisy of The Right.

[medusala]

His shows should always be regarded as 'opinion' show as he doesn't have any formal journalist qualifications.

Journalistic qualifications? Like what, how to roll a note up and do a line in the toilet? Not exactly a profession known for its high calibre of person.

 

[cartwright]

Journalistic qualifications? Like what, how to roll a note up and do a line in the toilet? Not exactly a profession known for its high calibre of person.

Stop reading Murdoch publications. Your perception of journalists might improve.

 

[Steinfreo]

Hey 'centrist' and Trump people just tell the truth hey. I prefer the oldschool right wingers so much, at least they had the balls to simply say we dont like brown people, we dont want them in our country. Grow some balls right wing people and be loud and proud so the normals can see you for who you really are.

Also if you vote lib or right wing and your rich your exempt from this because its logical for you to do so. If you are middle/working class and a right wing voter just admit you do it because you dont like brown people. just own it.

 

[ShanDog]

All the recent Nazi references have been deleted. Rule 3 is there for a reason, and regardless of whether it's irony or not, people don't take too kindly to being called Nazis, so as general rule it shouldn't be done. Easier for me to blanket ban than deal with he said she said stuff.

 

[Gough]

A lot of people don't take too kindly to Nazism either and we have world leaders right now who are showing disturbing totalitarian inclinations. There are comparisons to previous times right now. A blanket ban could be seen as PC gone mad.

 

[Taylor]

Cheapening the term diminishes what actually happened

 

[Noidenous]

A lot of people don't take too kindly to Nazism either and we have world leaders right now who are showing disturbing totalitarian inclinations. There are comparisons to previous times right now. A blanket ban could be seen as PC gone mad.

You mean like refusing to disavow the actions of a left-wing domestic terrorist?

 

[Noidenous]

All the recent Nazi references have been deleted. Rule 3 is there for a reason, and regardless of whether it's irony or not, people don't take too kindly to being called Nazis, so as general rule it shouldn't be done. Easier for me to blanket ban than deal with he said she said stuff.

Does this mean you'll now be removing all indirect implication as to someone being a Nazi for the same reason?

See above post from a moderator.

 

[TimmeT]

A lot of people don't take too kindly to Nazism either and we have world leaders right now who are showing disturbing totalitarian inclinations. There are comparisons to previous times right now. A blanket ban could be seen as PC gone mad.

Seriously soyou whinged when people were making in your view unreasonable, tenuous comparisons with gay people during the SSM marriage discussions among others (such as examining the similarities with paedophiles) and told us that you thought these comparisons were abusive. Here we are with you wanting people to be able to refer to others as Nazi with unreasonable, tenuous links and are now trying to tell us that these comments should be accepted even if they offend poster. Nice hypocrisy.

 

[ShanDog]

Does this mean you'll now be removing all indirect implication as to someone being a Nazi for the same reason?

See above post from a moderator.

Blanket ban wasn't a good term - I mean not using it flippantly. If someone is exhibiting white nationalist ideologies and the word Nazi starts getting thrown around, it's obviously in that context.

 

[Steinfreo]

Love how the Dave Rubin libertarians have rushed in to protect the right as usual. You guys are placating radical thought.

Guess how Germany healed itself from the scourge of nazism, firstly, billions of dollars of reparations and secondly, they allowed people to call out nazis that still thrived post war, they stomped out facist tendencies. You libertarians are placating facists, thats why they like you.

 

[Taylor]

Love how the Dave Rubin libertarians have rushed in to protect the right as usual. You guys are placating radical thought.

Guess how Germany healed itself from the scourge of nazism, firstly, billions of dollars of reparations and secondly, they allowed people to call out nazis that still thrived post war, they stomped out facist tendencies. You libertarians are placating facists, thats why they like you.

The reparations after WW1 were a significant factor is the rise of the national socialists.

 

[Engimal v3]

If you are middle/working class and a right wing voter just admit you do it because you dont like brown people. just own it.

You've hit the nail on the head: Everyone who doesn't vote like you must be a racist.

I don't understand why right-wingers are trying to be so divisive. All we're doing is baselessly-accusing them of hating brown people, so why won't they just agree? Ugh!

 

[Steinfreo]

The reparations after WW1 were a significant factor is the rise of the national socialists.

Dont throw national 'socialists' around , its been completely debunked the nazis were in no way socialist, there was a true leftist radicalism that emerged at that time, look up Rosa Luxemburg. They used the word socialist to garner working class support, just like trump tricked the working class into voting for him promising steel jobs.

Yeah its true the German people radicalised because of the economic burdens of the post war treaties. It is also true that the reparations and upfront public addressing of nazism healed Germany. Whats your point?

 

[Steinfreo]

You've hit the nail on the head: Everyone who doesn't vote like you must be a racist.

I don't understand why right-wingers are trying to be so devisive. All we're doing is baselessly-accusing them of hating brown people because they voted differently, why won't they just agree?!

Are you rich?

 

[Engimal v3]

Are you rich?

Billions.

 

[Taylor]

Dont throw national 'socialists' around , its been completely debunked the nazis were in no way socialist, there was a true leftist radicalism that emerged at that time, look up Rosa Luxemburg. They used the word socialist to garner working class support, just like trump tricked the working class into voting for him promising steel jobs.

Yeah its true the German people radicalised because of the economic burdens of the post war treaties. It is also true that the reparations and upfront public addressing of nazism healed Germany. Whats your point?

I don't think the reparations had the effect you're thinking they did. You granted them part influence of the suppression of the National Socialist Workers Party values but I believe it was more the act of making display of those values illegal that did that along with a dissemination of information and the associated public shame.

 

[Taylor]

Are you rich?

Working class people should vote conservative if the alternative is to bring in more unskilled labor to compete for their jobs under the guise of being humanitarian.

Workers parties/unions should be fundamentally nationalist and isolationist. They look after their own first. Only recently has that been pivoted by the left into being against foreigners first and for their own second.

You can argue the end result is indistinguishable but assigning motive impacts the message.

 

[Bradesmaen]

All the recent Nazi references have been deleted. Rule 3 is there for a reason, and regardless of whether it's irony or not, people don't take too kindly to being called Nazis, so as general rule it shouldn't be done. Easier for me to blanket ban than deal with he said she said stuff.

You na... wait... fascist?

 

[Steinfreo]

Billions.

Well good for you, I understand why you vote right .

 

[Steinfreo]

Working class people should vote conservative if the alternative is to bring in more unskilled labor to compete for their jobs under the guise of being humanitarian.

Workers parties/unions should be fundamentally nationalist and isolationist. They look after their own first. Only recently has that been pivoted by the left into being against foreigners first and for their own second.

You can argue the end result is indistinguishable but assigning motive impacts the message.

You don't understand the economic issues underpinning the social issues, you've got it all backwards. Immigration into the the west isn't the primary cause for the lose of job for the working class, the western bourgeois class choosing the Chinese/Mexican/Indian/etc poor to manufacture goods IN THOSE COUNTRIES is the primary cause for the lose of working class jobs, this is combined with technological changes, both exclusively to increase profit margins for themselves and shareholders. domestic immigration is a poor third factor which has been exacerbated by the bourgeois class undermining the labour movement across the western world (the labour movement ****ed itself to a degree as well ).

Lefties are in a bit of a pickle when is comes to isolationism/nationalism I have to admit. What I will say though is there is no colour in a class struggle and once you are part of the class struggle your race cultural background is inconsequential. We need to change our understaning of labour, they dont realise it but the rightwing white steel worker has more in common with the Pakistani uber driver than he does to the right-wing health insurance ceo.

 

[Noidenous]

Working class people should vote conservative if the alternative is to bring in more unskilled labor to compete for their jobs under the guise of being humanitarian.

Workers parties/unions should be fundamentally nationalist and isolationist. They look after their own first. Only recently has that been pivoted by the left into being against foreigners first and for their own second.

You can argue the end result is indistinguishable but assigning motive impacts the message.

When your entire modern campaign rests on an unproven declaration of climatic doom (peer-reviewed by the same people who reviewed the Grievance Studies papers), coupled with an open border and guaranteed hourly income beyond that of your national coffers, you and everyone else you invited is gonna have a bad time.

How humanitarian.

 

[Noidenous]

You don't understand the economic issues underpinning the social issues, you've got it all backwards. Immigration into the the west isn't the primary cause for the lose of job for the working class, the western bourgeois class choosing the Chinese/Mexican/Indian/etc poor to manufacture goods IN THOSE COUNTRIES is the primary cause for the lose of working class jobs, this is combined with technological changes, both exclusively to increase profit margins for themselves and shareholders. domestic immigration is a poor third factor which has been exacerbated by the bourgeois class undermining the labour movement across the western world (the labour movement f’ed itself to a degree as well ).

Lefties are in a bit of a pickle when is comes to isolationism/nationalism I have to admit. What I will say though is there is no colour in a class struggle and once you are part of the class struggle your race cultural background is inconsequential. We need to change our understaning of labour, they dont realise it but the rightwing white steel worker has more in common with the Pakistani uber driver than he does to the right-wing health insurance ceo.

Is making the bubonic plague a more relevant threat part of the plan?

 

[Taylor]

You don't understand the economic issues underpinning the social issues, you've got it all backwards. Immigration into the the west isn't the primary cause for the lose of job for the working class, the western bourgeois class choosing the Chinese/Mexican/Indian/etc poor to manufacture goods IN THOSE COUNTRIES is the primary cause for the lose of working class jobs, this is combined with technological changes, both exclusively to increase profit margins for themselves and shareholders. domestic immigration is a poor third factor which has been exacerbated by the bourgeois class undermining the labour movement across the western world (the labour movement f’ed itself to a degree as well ).

Lefties are in a bit of a pickle when is comes to isolationism/nationalism I have to admit. What I will say though is there is no colour in a class struggle and once you are part of the class struggle your race cultural background is inconsequential. We need to change our understaning of labour, they dont realise it but the rightwing white steel worker has more in common with the Pakistani uber driver than he does to the right-wing health insurance ceo.

They might have more in common with the worker there but their local union and worker party should be doing all it can to isolate the markets to protect the local working jobs. It costs less to live there, it costs more to live here but the product sold on the international market costs the same.

That is why worker parties and unions should be nationalist and isolationist. I don't you get to be both a globalist in terms of humanitarian and not take a share of the responsibility of opening competition from other nations with local work forces, particularly manufacturing.

Unless you want to heap blame on a particular group for all the bad things to come of it and shower glory on the other for the good things. Quality of life across the planet has risen drastically, some white people lost their jobs in wealthy nations.

 

[Taylor]

When your entire modern campaign rests on an unproven declaration of climatic doom (peer-reviewed by the same people who reviewed the Grievance Studies papers), coupled with an open border and guaranteed hourly income beyond that of your national coffers, you and everyone else you invited is gonna have a bad time.

How humanitarian.

I think the fundamentals of conservatism is recognizing that if quality of life is a liquid that fills the vessel, then our liquid here in our little pocket of land is filled higher than the rest of the world and that even though there is an abundance of liquid here that we can bathe and enjoy it, should that liquid be spread evenly across the entire land of the planet the planet is dry and nobody is swimming.

Conservatives wish to look after those in their group first, left wingers want to extend the good times here to those without outside the lucky group.

I don't see either as correct or wrong.