I got dumped :D

[Kane McGoodwin]

Waves to Nikki's mum.

Don't be shy now...

 

[NikkiNoo]

She's apparently gone to bed now but says Hi back to you all.

 

[Dandy_GO]

seems like theres some sort of mod lovefest goign on here...

I'm secretly Graham Cornes, and it's all part of my cunning plan to divert the discussion away from the topic of my extreme incompetence

 

[- PC -]

Waves to Nikki's mum.

Don't be shy now...

What do you reckon Kane.... NooNoo ?

 

[- PC -]

I'm secretly Graham Cornes, and it's all part of my cunning plan to divert the discussion away from the topic of my extreme incompetence

Now Shhtudley this inyanet bizness strike me pink its got you frazzled old son old stud

 

[NikkiNoo]

Now Shhtudley this inyanet bizness strike me pink its got you frazzled old son old stud

Dandy - you are way too funny to be Studley

 

[beck*]

Dandy - you are way too funny to be Studley

Funny cos it's true

 

[kimirocks]

Could you imagine the house if you red carded your own mother i would pretty much plonk down my bank account to watch that one

 

[brucetiki]

Maybe we should do what the Victorians did to 3AW and tune into Triple M and ABC Radio, that might shake things up at 5AA.

Plan B is tell George W. Bush there's an oilfield underneath the 5AA studios and send his troops in to 'liberate' 5AA.

 

[NikkiNoo]

Could you imagine the house if you red carded your own mother i would pretty much plonk down my bank account to watch that one

I don't live in that same house, luckily! But if you are willing to hand over your bank account I could probably arrange for the red card (doesn't stop you reading things only posting ). Could be the quickest $50 I've ever made kimi.

When she signed up I actually made her read the rules unlike most people who tick the box saying they read the rules and haven't. Plus she is not the quickest typer so she always proof reads what she has written. I don't anticipate having too much trouble with her.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Could you imagine the house if you red carded your own mother i would pretty much plonk down my bank account to watch that one

LMAO

 

[Alex99]

Why is there any difference in who we criticize?

If anyone dares to unfairly criticize a moderator or alternatively another poster regarding a comment they have made they will automatically receive an infraction point but the same principals do not occur if the same comment were made towards a player from the club we supposably support.

If I made a new thread referring to Nikkinoo, Kane McGoodwin or Mad Dog because they said something I did not agree with or though was poor performance I would get an infraction, why is there any difference in what the subject is about. I know you are going to say “you will not receive an infraction if it is warranted” but that is the point, you still allow negative and stupid post to reman on the board regarding player performance even if they are not warranted.

We had literally hundred of post inflaming the performance of Ian Perrie after round one, was it warranted NO as he was not the only player to performer below expectation. Luke Jericho had his best performance against Carlton and still has post made about him that he should be dropped; FFS do we support this football club or NOT.

This board is always first in line to start whinging and complaining about any outside sources writing a negative article about the AFC or the players we will have a tsunami of post bagging that source, but will do that same sort of thing after a poor performance. Ian Perrie, Luke Jericho, Scott Welsh and even Mark Ricciuto were not spared this season; so many had a source regarding his ailing body was ready to pack it in.

I heard you on radio station FiveAA yesterday and wholeheartedly agree with Graham that we should delete any unfounded negative post but I also agree that this is a place that is extremely important to international and interstate supporter to find out valuable information that they cannot get. We need to cut this negative crap out but we also should not be sycophants that just want to hear the positive stuff, bagging players should be a NO – NO.

If we are going to allow stupid people freedom to post about absolutely anything and this includes the bagging of player (lets see how many post we get this afternoon if we lose tot the Wet Toast), we should also just accept that Michelangelo Rucci, Graham Cornes and Chris McDermott have an opinion and are simply airing it on a different medium.

We cannot have it both ways; we cannot say they should STFU and stop bagging the club because they have an alleged chip on there shoulder and then post the same sort of uncomplimentary stuff.

 

[Mad Dog]

Could you imagine the house if you red carded your own mother i would pretty much plonk down my bank account to watch that one

that was my comment when I heard Mrs Noo was lurking............but Nikki is a woman of honour and would never ever red card her own mother......she reckons she would get Me or Kane to do it.......

as for your convo with ol' prune face.....well done Nik - I missed it but Graham gets his knickers in a twist anytime someone mentions an internet forum.

Graham - if you're reading this - you're views on how the site operates are just plain wrong. Kane hit the nail on the head earlier when he described the process.

Moderating a site like this is a tough business......we read everything we can....time permitting as we are all volunteers. We rely heavily on reported posts - but with over 39,000 registered users all posting on average 8 or 9 posts a day - it's near on impossible. Often Moderators sacrifice their own posting and enjoyment of the site to deal with problem posts and posters.....I for one don't get involved in nearly enough footy discussion given that I'm always cleaning up after problem posters........so by all means if you want to criticise a small minority of morons - go ahead - but don't criticise the site Moderators because they are doing their job.

Sure there are some fwits - and they do get weeded out as it is in the interests of the rest of the users who rely on this site in lieu of being able to live in Adelaide, access it's media, and attend games.

We would really appreciate a less generalised view from you on this issue

 

[- PC -]

If we are going to allow stupid people freedom to post about absolutely anything and this includes the bagging of player (lets see how many post we get this afternoon if we lose tot the Wet Toast), we should also just accept that Michelangelo Rucci, Graham Cornes and Chris McDermott have an opinion and are simply airing it on a different medium.

We cannot have it both ways; we cannot say they should STFU and stop bagging the club because they have an alleged chip on there shoulder and then post the same sort of uncomplimentary stuff.

C98... the reason I left this in is 2fold.

1. I agree we need to be more careful in our criticisms and it is something we all need to look at. I do think the Mods of this board do the best they can... but as you know, and you posted a scenario...if we lose we have 30 threads in 5 minutes, if we win its like grasshoppers... thats human nature and Mods can only do so much. Criticism comes in many flavours.

I read Rucci and McDermott and turn the page, others go into fits of rage. Same as on here. Some post criticisms in which they think they are giving a valid view and others look at those posts and attack... human nature crap band but a personal fault of us all

2. As I wander these boards one of the consistent comments about Crows Board posters is the level of respect given to other teams and clubs. ie we usually dont use terms like Wet Toast or Blosers... or even Pooher. Let others sink to that level is my motto. Just a thought

 

[Alex99]

C98... the reason I left this in is 2fold.

1. I agree we need to be more careful in our criticisms and it is something we all need to look at. I do think the Mods of this board do the best they can... but as you know, and you posted a scenario...if we lose we have 30 threads in 5 minutes, if we win its like grasshoppers... thats human nature and Mods can only do so much. Criticism comes in many flavours.

I also thing the mods do an expertly job in moderating this board but I was just trying to individualize it.

2. As I wander these boards one of the consistent comments about Crows Board posters is the level of respect given to other teams and clubs. ie we usually dont use terms like Wet Toast or Blosers... or even Pooher. Let others sink to that level is my motto. Just a thought

Point taken – West Coast Eagles

If we want to be seen in a certain way, we should act that way as well.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Why is there any difference in who we criticize?

If anyone dares to unfairly criticize a moderator or alternatively another poster regarding a comment they have made they will automatically receive an infraction point but the same principals do not occur if the same comment were made towards a player from the club we supposably support.

If I made a new thread referring to Nikkinoo, Kane McGoodwin or Mad Dog because they said something I did not agree with or though was poor performance I would get an infraction, why is there any difference in what the subject is about. I know you are going to say “you will not receive an infraction if it is warranted” but that is the point, you still allow negative and stupid post to reman on the board regarding player performance even if they are not warranted.

We had literally hundred of post inflaming the performance of Ian Perrie after round one, was it warranted NO as he was not the only player to performer below expectation. Luke Jericho had his best performance against Carlton and still has post made about him that he should be dropped; FFS do we support this football club or NOT.

This board is always first in line to start whinging and complaining about any outside sources writing a negative article about the AFC or the players we will have a tsunami of post bagging that source, but will do that same sort of thing after a poor performance. Ian Perrie, Luke Jericho, Scott Welsh and even Mark Ricciuto were not spared this season; so many had a source regarding his ailing body was ready to pack it in.

I heard you on radio station FiveAA yesterday and wholeheartedly agree with Graham that we should delete any unfounded negative post but I also agree that this is a place that is extremely important to international and interstate supporter to find out valuable information that they cannot get. We need to cut this negative crap out but we also should not be sycophants that just want to hear the positive stuff, bagging players should be a NO – NO.

If we are going to allow stupid people freedom to post about absolutely anything and this includes the bagging of player (lets see how many post we get this afternoon if we lose tot the Wet Toast), we should also just accept that Michelangelo Rucci, Graham Cornes and Chris McDermott have an opinion and are simply airing it on a different medium.

We cannot have it both ways; we cannot say they should STFU and stop bagging the club because they have an alleged chip on there shoulder and then post the same sort of uncomplimentary stuff.

It is important to distinguish between the types of criticism.

If a player plays badly, then it is not unreasonable for posters to point that out, by backing up their reasons why. This is more along the lines of constructive criticism. eg. Last year it was mentioned Knights needs improve his kicking skills. You improve theough life by evauating your own weaknesses.

It is the posts that criticise usually the same player every week/call for them to be dropped, regardless of how the play which don't add any value to the site ... & are often unwaranted. The difficulty as a moderator is when to censor these types of comments - we need a good reason to, as it is not a black & white area.

 

[carntheroos4eva]

Sorry but I had to laugh at this thread.
Graham Cornes is a rude and arrogant bugger who deserves all the shit that needs to be served up to him.
Give it to him guys.

 

[portly]

Why is there any difference in who we criticize?

If anyone dares to unfairly criticize a moderator or alternatively another poster regarding a comment they have made they will automatically receive an infraction point but the same principals do not occur if the same comment were made towards a player from the club we supposably support.

If I made a new thread referring to Nikkinoo, Kane McGoodwin or Mad Dog because they said something I did not agree with or though was poor performance I would get an infraction, why is there any difference in what the subject is about. I know you are going to say “you will not receive an infraction if it is warranted” but that is the point, you still allow negative and stupid post to reman on the board regarding player performance even if they are not warranted.

We had literally hundred of post inflaming the performance of Ian Perrie after round one, was it warranted NO as he was not the only player to performer below expectation. Luke Jericho had his best performance against Carlton and still has post made about him that he should be dropped; FFS do we support this football club or NOT.

This board is always first in line to start whinging and complaining about any outside sources writing a negative article about the AFC or the players we will have a tsunami of post bagging that source, but will do that same sort of thing after a poor performance. Ian Perrie, Luke Jericho, Scott Welsh and even Mark Ricciuto were not spared this season; so many had a source regarding his ailing body was ready to pack it in.

I heard you on radio station FiveAA yesterday and wholeheartedly agree with Graham that we should delete any unfounded negative post but I also agree that this is a place that is extremely important to international and interstate supporter to find out valuable information that they cannot get. We need to cut this negative crap out but we also should not be sycophants that just want to hear the positive stuff, bagging players should be a NO – NO.

If we are going to allow stupid people freedom to post about absolutely anything and this includes the bagging of player (lets see how many post we get this afternoon if we lose tot the Wet Toast), we should also just accept that Michelangelo Rucci, Graham Cornes and Chris McDermott have an opinion and are simply airing it on a different medium.

We cannot have it both ways; we cannot say they should STFU and stop bagging the club because they have an alleged chip on there shoulder and then post the same sort of uncomplimentary stuff.

Good heavens!!!

An independent thinker!

AND on the Crow's forum!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Crow-mo]

I think Cornesy's right.


no really I do.

not entirely, but in a large proportion. the Internet & chat rooms are filled with a defamatory squibs, most certainly including BF.

what we have here is a place where reasonably intelligent and informed people can discuss the finer points (or not ) of a game of footy. however to do that, you have to wade through all sorts of mindless idiots & the noise that they create. after a while, the opinion of one person can be worth that of 10. when xyz says something, you listen, and then while trying to follow a decent conversation, have to hold your frustration in check while some clueless noice just interrupts and gets in the way.

now if you didn't know better, where do you get your navigational compass to navigate through the bullshit? you might think the noise represents the majority...

and maybe it does.

 

[apollo_creed]

It's pretty obvious why he's cracked the sads.
Someone presented an obvious criticism re; one of his sons and he didn't like it. Not sure why he takes it so personally. They're both excellent footballers but neither perfect. not everything to be discussed in relation is positive.
Wayne Carey and Gary Ablett both had their weak points as well.

most of the observations on here are valid.
criticism is part of life, professional footballers are as subject to that as anyone.

in addition,

the guy doesn't respect his listeners.

their opinions are worthless, his is supreme.

the fact is, most of the media reads BF and it's becoming an increasingly powerful, more utilised tool. it's an excellent site/place for fans to congregate and dicuss football.

defamatory stuff is frowned upon and rare. the excellent moderators (xoxo) make this so.

observations and judgements based on evidence/incidents are permissible. many footballers encourage criticism through their behaviour. act accordingly and be treated as such.

others are subject (and rightfully so) to the same through their inadequacies as footballers. this is perfectly fine.

if you don't want a public appraisal don't seek one.

this site is an excellent place to gauge public opinion. a cross section of supporters, of varying age groups.

 

[PrideOf]

in addition,

the guy doesn't respect his listeners.

their opinions are worthless, his is supreme.

the fact is, most of the media reads BF and it's becoming an increasingly powerful, more utilised tool. it's an excellent site/place for fans to congregate and dicuss football.

Agree. Cornesy, the Rooch (and a few other media operators) don't like forums simply because it threatens their position of power in the media. As a journalist/reporter/radio host you can say whatever you like and if you're challenged, you dump the caller or don't print the letter to the editor. Or if you're wrong, you might print a retraction on page 86.

So it's no surprise they don't like it. Especially Cornesy, who seems to be getting worse with his 'what would you know, you never played 300 games' mentality.

 

[PrideOf]

what we have here is a place where reasonably intelligent and informed people can discuss the finer points (or not ) of a game of footy. however to do that, you have to wade through all sorts of mindless idiots & the noise that they create. after a while, the opinion of one person can be worth that of 10. when xyz says something, you listen, and then while trying to follow a decent conversation, have to hold your frustration in check while some clueless noice just interrupts and gets in the way.

You've just described the 5AA football show.

now if you didn't know better, where do you get your navigational compass to navigate through the bullshit?

You ever stand in a pub after a game? Or catch the Footy Express home? Or listen to talkback callers ringing in 10 minutes after the final siren?

In the pub I've heard people give BOG to someone who had about five touches. On the Footy Express, I've heard people sincerely talking about how we would have won if Perrie/Bock/McLeod/Craig had been taken out the back and shot at 1/2 time. And you only need to listen to the playback of the callers after the Prelim loss last year to work out if people are balanced in their views on the radio.

It's no different to a forum like this, with the exception that because the web is a print medium, opinions last longer simply because they're in print.

Yes, on here some people are harsh after a game. Yes, some other people want a particular player to be shifted or to lift their game. Yes, some people have a natural desire to butt into the conversation and stir. But that's no different to the real world.

IMHO painting web forums as the wild west where defamation rides around at will is just wrong. If not, I'd like someone to post the names of the three blokes done for their second strike or the names of the Sturt boys Sticks Phillips dealt with.

No takers? Good. Point proven.

 

[King Elvis]

If they actually understood the internet at all, they could use it.

They should have a segment once a week where they speak to a designated member of this Forum (Probably MD or NN) and ask what are the 'hot topics' on the forum and what is the opinions of people on them.

But that'd be embracing the new media.

 

[Alex99]

If they actually understood the internet at all, they could use it.

They should have a segment once a week where they speak to a designated member of this Forum (Probably MD or NN) and ask what are the 'hot topics' on the forum and what is the opinions of people on them.

But that'd be embracing the new media.

As a tool of communication the internet is almost starting to make the radio redundant.

 

[tcinadelaide]

i am constanly amazed at how on 3aw and other melbourne radio stations ,people can more or less get on air and be allowed to say their bit without fear of being dumped,yet dare have an opinion on a crows or port player and loooookout ,big boss man stud will dump you.
i wanted to ring up and say something like" bock gets too close to the man on the mark and thompson should put the lairish carrying the ball in one hand away",but i didnt because i knew his royal highness would say"YOU CANT COME ON HERE AND SAY THAT,WHAT ARE YOU,A KNOW ALL?'',err ,no stud i'm just some guy who''s followed my team for 16YEARS and i give a stuff!!!!!


lighten up ken and graham,your sounding like the bloody radio gestapo!