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******* lol.

It took him just 2 sentences to bring up marxists and 3 to bring the 'left' into it. All in a topic about IQ..

You have a serious problem.
thanks for that, I think i eventually got annoyed at his ramblings and blocked it, but it still gets a chuckle from me seeing it
 
I thought intelligence was directly related to you post to like ratio on Big Footy.
Probably is a strong correlation. Comedy requires a certain level of intelligence to do well. Anecdotally, funny/witty posts attract the most likes on BF. So I think a hypothesis that "Higher than average IQ is strongly correlated with high post-to-like-ratios on BigFooty" would be found correct if it were studied.
 

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I was 117 when I was tested, so above average but not really remarkable.

Having a high IQ certainly helps in life but its only one of a billion things.

I've known someone who claimed to be 168 but had crippling depression. He currently ives in poverty. I know someone else who is a complete narcissist who other people can't stand; he spends all day telling people how amazing hed be if he tried to do their job but never does. (I suspect hes also depressed). They are losers.

I've also worked with a loooot of programmers, and some get way up there on the global scale. They are geniuses and work well with others and have high emotional maturity, and are confident and curious and want to learn/know when they are wrong. They are also excellent leaders. That's the complete package. They are winners.

I've also known programmers who are highly intelegent but lack some of the other attributes, and are probably (definitley) on the spectrum. Some can't work or manage in a team, others can't see past their own ego and keep ****ing up/are stunted in their growth as a result, and some who just can't focus and keep their feet on the ground. (One guy dealt with people with a rubix cube; if the green side was facing up you could approach him, but if the red side was facing up he would tap it and ignore you). These people are average.

IQ is one of a ton of attributes that measure success. It helps to have, but it's nothing but potential. Not worth fixating on.
 
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I was 117 when I was tested, so above average but not really remarkable.

Having a high IQ certainly helps in life but its only one of a billion things.

I've known someone who claimed to be 168 but had crippling depression. He currently ives in poverty. I know someone else who is a complete narcissist who other people can't stand; he spends all day telling people how amazing hed be if he tried to do their job but never does. (I suspect hes also depressed). They are losers.

I've also worked with a loooot of programmers, and some get way up there on the global scale. They are geniuses and work well with others and have high emotional maturity, and are confident and curious and want to learn/know when they are wrong. They are alsi excellent leaders. That's the complete package. They are winners.

I've also known programmers who are highly intelegent but lack some of the other attributes, and are probably (definitley) on the spectrum. Some can't work or manage in a team, others can't see past their own ego and keep ******* up/are stunted in their growth as a result, and some who just can't focus and keep their feet on the ground. (One guy dealt with people with a rubix cube; if the green side was facing up you could approach him, but if the red side was facing up he would tap it and ignore you). These people are average.

IQ is one of a ton of attributes that measure success. It helps to have, but it's nothing but potential. Not worth fixating on.
I feel that one of the biggest bustups with the current IQ measurment is that you can
I was 117 when I was tested, so above average but not really remarkable.

Having a high IQ certainly helps in life but its only one of a billion things.

I've known someone who claimed to be 168 but had crippling depression. He currently ives in poverty. I know someone else who is a complete narcissist who other people can't stand; he spends all day telling people how amazing hed be if he tried to do their job but never does. (I suspect hes also depressed). They are losers.

I've also worked with a loooot of programmers, and some get way up there on the global scale. They are geniuses and work well with others and have high emotional maturity, and are confident and curious and want to learn/know when they are wrong. They are alsi excellent leaders. That's the complete package. They are winners.

I've also known programmers who are highly intelegent but lack some of the other attributes, and are probably (definitley) on the spectrum. Some can't work or manage in a team, others can't see past their own ego and keep ******* up/are stunted in their growth as a result, and some who just can't focus and keep their feet on the ground. (One guy dealt with people with a rubix cube; if the green side was facing up you could approach him, but if the red side was facing up he would tap it and ignore you). These people are average.

IQ is one of a ton of attributes that measure success. It helps to have, but it's nothing but potential. Not worth fixating on.

IQ of 117 is decent. I know a guy who has an iq similar to yours, I think it might have been 118 or something however they were very divided when it came to the two sections. They were 90 something in terms of score for the bit with the puzzles buit were clearly in the 99th percentile for cognitive. All this showed was is how misleading the test result can be in relation to someone's IQ or intelligence.
 
I took a proper one about 25 years ago. Would be interesting to see how many points have been knocked off in the many years of self-abuse since. I certainly feel a lot stupider.
 
I took a proper one about 25 years ago. Would be interesting to see how many points have been knocked off in the many years of self-abuse since. I certainly feel a lot stupider.
There's a natural decline than happens with age also. Not sure about what environmental impacts there can be, but on face value, anything that messes with your brain would surely have an impact.
 
There's a natural decline than happens with age also. Not sure about what environmental impacts there can be, but on face value, anything that messes with your brain would surely have an impact.
Interestingly it seems as if increased age is correlated with improvements in other mental abilities.
Mental agility at 18. (I guess this leads to peak performance in IQ tests)
Visual working memory at 25.
Working memory for numbers at 30.
Ability to detect emotional peaks in others between 40-50.
Vocabulary at 60-70.

https://digest.bps.org.uk/2015/03/1...eak-at-different-times-of-life-from-18-to-70/
 
******* lol.

It took him just 2 sentences to bring up marxists and 3 to bring the 'left' into it. All in a topic about IQ..

You have a serious problem.

Feels strange agreeing with you. Lets not have that happen again, k?

There's a natural decline than happens with age also. Not sure about what environmental impacts there can be, but on face value, anything that messes with your brain would surely have an impact.

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No idea why the animated gif isnt working. Ive probably copped too many knocks.
 
Interestingly it seems as if increased age is correlated with improvements in other mental abilities.
Mental agility at 18. (I guess this leads to peak performance in IQ tests)
Visual working memory at 25.
Working memory for numbers at 30.
Ability to detect emotional peaks in others between 40-50.
Vocabulary at 60-70.

https://digest.bps.org.uk/2015/03/1...eak-at-different-times-of-life-from-18-to-70/
Interesting. From memory, I think it's the g-factor that declines, but obviously there's more to it.
 
I was 117 when I was tested, so above average but not really remarkable.

Having a high IQ certainly helps in life but its only one of a billion things.

I've known someone who claimed to be 168 but had crippling depression. He currently ives in poverty. I know someone else who is a complete narcissist who other people can't stand; he spends all day telling people how amazing hed be if he tried to do their job but never does. (I suspect hes also depressed). They are losers.

I've also worked with a loooot of programmers, and some get way up there on the global scale. They are geniuses and work well with others and have high emotional maturity, and are confident and curious and want to learn/know when they are wrong. They are also excellent leaders. That's the complete package. They are winners.

I've also known programmers who are highly intelegent but lack some of the other attributes, and are probably (definitley) on the spectrum. Some can't work or manage in a team, others can't see past their own ego and keep ******* up/are stunted in their growth as a result, and some who just can't focus and keep their feet on the ground. (One guy dealt with people with a rubix cube; if the green side was facing up you could approach him, but if the red side was facing up he would tap it and ignore you). These people are average.

IQ is one of a ton of attributes that measure success. It helps to have, but it's nothing but potential. Not worth fixating on.

Very well said. Anecdotally, I know a high-functioning autistic man whose IQ was allegedly assessed as around 140 by several clinical psychologists. Unfortunately, he was abused throughout his life and subsists on the DSP due to being diabetic (among other things).

These are a list of factors that determine success in life. IQ is but one of many.

I am personally of the opinion that IQ mostly makes a difference at the lower levels (probably below 85 nowadays and certainly below 70), because you cannot really expect the intellectually impaired in particular (i.e - IQ of <70) to be financially successful on their own merits - they just don't have the capacity.

There is also something to be said for the idea that high IQ (or at least an IQ which is too far away from the mean) can ultimately alienate you from the people around you, which then affects your employment prospects because in my experience connecting with others is much more important for gaining employment or succeeding in business than simply being 'intelligent'. Connecting with others may simply be too difficult when the IQ gap between yourself and the average person is too great. This fellow for instance, was completely isolated from his peers in his youth due to his genius - there is also no mention of him getting married or having children. He ultimately concludes that it is better to be a happy, socially connected but 'regular' person instead of an alienated genius like he was.
 
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I find tests good in general. They differentiate people who can and cannot do things irregardless of whatever bullshit they may be for.
 

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I find tests good in general. They differentiate people who can and cannot do things irregardless of whatever bullshit they may be for.

No they don’t. They seperate people who can and can not do tests - at a particular point in time at that; or rather it ranks those along such a scale.

Congratulations, you got 87 per cent at 2pm on a Thursday, after a healthy lunch and good night’s sleep with nothing at stake.

Now perform the same mental task, at 6am after 6am starts, on a breakfast of half a can of red bull and depression, day after day, with the real pressure on.

I GIVE THIS PERFORMANCE 27 PER CENT WHAT THE HELL MAN THESE WERE CONTROLLED CONDITIONS

Tests are bad. They are a recepie for false positives. Your proposal that you only know what floats once you throw it in the water is true but tests are dry runs by design.

Like people who can effortlessly slot goals at training on a Thursday night but keep pushing wide with the missus watching on Saturday.

Like people who can formulate really good ideas in thier head but use made up words like ‘irregardless’ when they post.
 
******* lol.

It took him just 2 sentences to bring up marxists and 3 to bring the 'left' into it. All in a topic about IQ..

You have a serious problem.
Just pointing out the obvious!
The left like to them self go as the intellectuals! Yet all you have to do is look at the way they behave when they don’t get their way & carry them self!
Their policies and results show how stupid so called intellectuals can be!
To much time sitting around the table eating tofu and sniffing each other’s vegan gas
 
Just pointing out the obvious!
The left like to them self go as the intellectuals! Yet all you have to do is look at the way they behave when they don’t get their way & carry them self!
Their policies and results show how stupid so called intellectuals can be!
To much time sitting around the table eating tofu and sniffing each other’s vegan gas
This post is exactly why there should be an IQ test for voting.
 
No they don’t. They seperate people who can and can not do tests - at a particular point in time at that; or rather it ranks those along such a scale.

Congratulations, you got 87 per cent at 2pm on a Thursday, after a healthy lunch and good night’s sleep with nothing at stake.

Now perform the same mental task, at 6am after 6am starts, on a breakfast of half a can of red bull and depression, day after day, with the real pressure on.

I GIVE THIS PERFORMANCE 27 PER CENT WHAT THE HELL MAN THESE WERE CONTROLLED CONDITIONS

Tests are bad. They are a recepie for false positives. Your proposal that you only know what floats once you throw it in the water is true but tests are dry runs by design.

Like people who can effortlessly slot goals at training on a Thursday night but keep pushing wide with the missus watching on Saturday.

Like people who can formulate really good ideas in thier head but use made up words like ‘irregardless’ when they post.
Not too good at tests?
 
Just pointing out the obvious!
The left like to them self go as the intellectuals! Yet all you have to do is look at the way they behave when they don’t get their way & carry them self!
Their policies and results show how stupid so called intellectuals can be!
To much time sitting around the table eating tofu and sniffing each other’s vegan gas

Intelegent people as a demographic lean left. Get over it.
 

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You can be well educated and still be stupid!
A prime example is some of the top elites calling for a communist/Marxist society!
The left like to attempt to be associated with being smart but most are out right stupid!

Just because they can write an essay it doesn’t mean they are all that bright

Many of the successful businessmen of the world are school drop outs like Richard Branson
There’s a thread about the evils of the left. Just couldn’t help yourself bringing up irrelevancies
 
You can improve your iq test score by practising iq tests
How does testing police that?

All I can think of is have people continuously test then retest until they plateau. Which would then be a max iq with time required to reach it (if you can trust the person not to have prepared)
 
Diverging slightly but testing as done in schools is becoming. More and more so as this crazy state of affairs continues. less relevant generally because computers are not used to the extent they are in real life and business

Ok a testee could access all sorts of information but with the internet, isn’t that life today? Nowhere near the level of self reliance needed as when I left school. Different skill sets are in play
 

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