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I did bro...

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/attendances

It seems every where you go you are a routinely shit poster.

Hawthorn is the 3rd highest drawing club in the league despite playing 2 games out of a jam tin, the Gold Coast at Carrara and being provided with one of the most commercially unappealing 13 game start for a defending premier

...yet despite this we are just 4000 less than the Bombers which is quite an achievement for a gypsy club. We also shit all over you with respect to members and revenue...hence the reason why Collingwood and Hawthorn are part of the new Victorian order
revenue, selling games to tassie and 1/3 of it coming from pokes. & still only made 2 million more than the bombers, take out the non poke revenue and hawthorn make penuts, they are way back in the pack.
hawthorns membership is inflated thanks to its support from tassie members the 9 or 10k & the 4 kids for every family package sold
Essendon are still ahead in sponsorship, even after hawthorn are selling their home games to tassie, which is part of their sponsorship package with the tasmanian government.
  • Essendon - 16.84 million, up from 15.92 million
  • Hawthorn - 15.22 million, up from 15.08 million

merchandise revenue
  • Hawthorn - 3.7 million, up from 3.1 million
  • Essendon - 3.24 million, up from 3.22 million
hawthorn selling just a bit more after winning the GF, yet Essendon sold more the year before,

Essendon do as well travel and play in those jam tin stadiums eg GWS and Carrarra so what is your point? went to the GC & GWS both last year, as well as GWS & against brisbane this year
it is known that the MCG will always draw more than Etihad
pies vs dogs 28k 3.20pm start last Sunday
bombers vs demons 44k. 4.40 start last sunday evening
a game where hawthorn only drew 17k vs the GWS at in a similar time slot at the MCG

Essendon play 7 games at the MCG to hawthorns 11
hawthorn have been up the top end of the ladder since 2005 ish
Essendon have been shit since 2001

so hawthorn should be up there, crowd wise, membership, sponsorship as they have been one of the best preformed teams in the comp for the last 7 odd years.
but have a look at how s tkilda did in there year they made the GF
2009 crowd average 41,157k members 31,906k
2010 44,307k 39,021
2011 35,697k 39,276
2012 31,601k 35,440
2013 28,857k 32,707k
2014 29,332k 29,332k

cant be stuffed looking up revenue but
last year they where down there with the bulldogs and lost money.
for those successful years when they played in the grand finals bandwagon fans jumped on board & now look at them they are struggling, on & off field, financially & for fans

all good things come to an end when hawthorns period of success is over they will be down the lower end of the ladder, & what happened to hawthorn when their golden period came to an end in the 90s, bankrupt, merger talks & no fans. now after several years of living off hand outs, waverley park given, and renovated at the expanse of the afl, selling games to tassie & investing in pokes & going through a golden period on field. and you wanna beat your chest & call Essendon irrelevant, when they have been shit for the past 13 years and still bigger club than hawforn.

dream on idiot
 
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revenue, selling games to tassie and 1/3 of it coming from pokes. & still only made 2 million more than the bombers, take out the non poke revenue and hawthorn make penuts, they are way back in the pack.
hawthorns membership is inflated thanks to its support from tassie members the 9 or 10k & the 4 kids for every family package sold
Essendon are still ahead in sponsorship, even after hawthorn are selling their home games to tassie, which is part of their sponsorship package with the tasmanian government.
  • Essendon - 16.84 million, up from 15.92 million
  • Hawthorn - 15.22 million, up from 15.08 million

merchandise revenue
  • Hawthorn - 3.7 million, up from 3.1 million
  • Essendon - 3.24 million, up from 3.22 million
hawthorn selling just a bit more after winning the GF, yet Essendon sold more the year before,

Essendon do as well travel and play in those jam tin stadiums eg GWS and Carrarra so what is your point. went to the GC & GWS both last year, as well as GWS & against brisbane this year
it is known that the MCG will always draw more than Etihad
pies vs dogs 28k 3.20pm start last Sunday
bombers vs demons 44k. 4.40 start last sunday evening
a game where hawthorn only drew 17k vs the GWS at in a similar time slot at the MCG

Essendon play 7 games at the MCG to hawthorns 11
hawthorn have been up the top end of the ladder since 2005 ish
Essendon have been shit since 2001

so hawthorn should be up there, crowd wise, membership, sponsorship as they have been one of the best preformed teams in the comp for the last 7 odd years.
but have a look at how s tkilda did in there year they made the GF
2009 crowd average 41,157k members 31,906
2010 39,021k
How often do you rip one out over Hawthorn fapper?
 

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revenue, selling games to tassie and 1/3 of it coming from pokes. & still only made 2 million more than the bombers, take out the non poke revenue and hawthorn make penuts, they are way back in the pack.
hawthorns membership is inflated thanks to its support from tassie members the 9 or 10k & the 4 kids for every family package sold
Essendon are still ahead in sponsorship, even after hawthorn are selling their home games to tassie, which is part of their sponsorship package with the tasmanian government.
  • Essendon - 16.84 million, up from 15.92 million
  • Hawthorn - 15.22 million, up from 15.08 million

merchandise revenue
  • Hawthorn - 3.7 million, up from 3.1 million
  • Essendon - 3.24 million, up from 3.22 million
hawthorn selling just a bit more after winning the GF, yet Essendon sold more the year before,

Essendon do as well travel and play in those jam tin stadiums eg GWS and Carrarra so what is your point. went to the GC & GWS both last year, as well as GWS & against brisbane this year
it is known that the MCG will always draw more than Etihad
pies vs dogs 28k 3.20pm start last Sunday
bombers vs demons 44k. 4.40 start last sunday evening
a game where hawthorn only drew 17k vs the GWS at in a similar time slot at the MCG

Essendon play 7 games at the MCG to hawthorns 11
hawthorn have been up the top end of the ladder since 2005 ish
Essendon have been shit since 2001

so hawthorn should be up there, crowd wise, membership, sponsorship as they have been one of the best preformed teams in the comp for the last 7 odd years.
but have a look at how s tkilda did in there year they made the GF
2009 crowd average 41,157k members 31,906
2010 39,021k

We only make modest profits because we feed so much of it back into the football department - that's why we exist, and why we are the premier club in the competition right now.
 

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revenue, selling games to tassie and 1/3 of it coming from pokes. & still only made 2 million more than the bombers, take out the non poke revenue and hawthorn make penuts, they are way back in the pack.
hawthorns membership is inflated thanks to its support from tassie members the 9 or 10k & the 4 kids for every family package sold
Essendon are still ahead in sponsorship, even after hawthorn are selling their home games to tassie, which is part of their sponsorship package with the tasmanian government.
  • Essendon - 16.84 million, up from 15.92 million
  • Hawthorn - 15.22 million, up from 15.08 million

merchandise revenue
  • Hawthorn - 3.7 million, up from 3.1 million
  • Essendon - 3.24 million, up from 3.22 million
hawthorn selling just a bit more after winning the GF, yet Essendon sold more the year before,

Essendon do as well travel and play in those jam tin stadiums eg GWS and Carrarra so what is your point? went to the GC & GWS both last year, as well as GWS & against brisbane this year
it is known that the MCG will always draw more than Etihad
pies vs dogs 28k 3.20pm start last Sunday
bombers vs demons 44k. 4.40 start last sunday evening
a game where hawthorn only drew 17k vs the GWS at in a similar time slot at the MCG

Essendon play 7 games at the MCG to hawthorns 11
hawthorn have been up the top end of the ladder since 2005 ish
Essendon have been shit since 2001

so hawthorn should be up there, crowd wise, membership, sponsorship as they have been one of the best preformed teams in the comp for the last 7 odd years.
but have a look at how s tkilda did in there year they made the GF
2009 crowd average 41,157k members 31,906k
2010 44,307k 39,021
2011 35,697k 39,276
2012 31,601k 35,440
2013 28,857k 32,707k
2014 29,332k 29,332k

cant be stuffed looking up revenue but
last year they where down there with the bulldogs and lost money.
for those successful years when they played in the grand finals bandwagon fans jumped on board & now look at them they are struggling, on & off field, financially & for fans

all good things come to an end when hawthorns period of success is over they will be down the lower end of the ladder, & what happened to hawthorn when their golden period came to an end in the 90s, bankrupt, merger talks & no fans. now after several years of living off hand outs, waverley park given, and renovated at the expanse of the afl, selling games to tassie & investing in pokes & going through a golden period on field. and you wanna beat your chest & call Essendon irrelevant, when they have been shit for the past 13 years and still bigger club than hawforn.

dream on idiot
Thanks for the analysis but you forgot this one -

Players handed show cause notices from ASADA

Essendon - 34
Hawthorn - 0
 

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and you wanna beat your chest & call Essendon irrelevant, when they have been shit for the past 13 years and still bigger club than hawforn.

dream on idiot
keeping beating your chest that hirdy did nothing wrong you flog, all your so called revenue is going to lawyers and when you lose or get a permanent * if you succeed in a challenge you still have no money, tarnished brand and one foot in the grave for your cheating scum club.
 

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revenue, selling games to tassie and 1/3 of it coming from pokes. & still only made 2 million more than the bombers, take out the non poke revenue and hawthorn make penuts, they are way back in the pack.
hawthorns membership is inflated thanks to its support from tassie members the 9 or 10k & the 4 kids for every family package sold
Essendon are still ahead in sponsorship, even after hawthorn are selling their home games to tassie, which is part of their sponsorship package with the tasmanian government.
  • Essendon - 16.84 million, up from 15.92 million
  • Hawthorn - 15.22 million, up from 15.08 million
This herein is why you are an embarrassment as a poster. Unless the AFL differentiates what constitutes sponsorship, commercial revenue etc. the individual values are irrelevent. Without constancy the macro values are king

That said you're probably tidying off a VB as we speak, hey flog?

merchandise revenue
  • Hawthorn - 3.7 million, up from 3.1 million
  • Essendon - 3.24 million, up from 3.22 million
hawthorn selling just a bit more after winning the GF, yet Essendon sold more the year before,
Again ditto. I'm sure you are also aware that merchandise revenue only includes that that is sold through the club supporter shop. I'm sure you are also aware that the Hawthorn merchandise was number 1 in the league while Essendon was number 2 on the back of the ASADA investigation...

But carry on...

a hard earned thurst needs a...

Essendon do as well travel and play in those jam tin stadiums eg GWS and Carrarra so what is your point? went to the GC & GWS both last year, as well as GWS & against brisbane this year
it is known that the MCG will always draw more than Etihad
pies vs dogs 28k 3.20pm start last Sunday
bombers vs demons 44k. 4.40 start last sunday evening
a game where hawthorn only drew 17k vs the GWS at in a similar time slot at the MCG
Yeah this...

Hawthorn has also drawn 45000 against Fremantle, 55000, 50000, 48000, 44000 against the Swans amd 50000 against the Eagles at the same ground in recent years

But you see it upon yourself to mention a single Sunday Night game against GWS in the wet...flog

Do you think Essnedon v Collingwood will surpass the 70000 plus we drew against the Pies in a few weeks time.

Essendon play 7 games at the MCG to hawthorns 11
...and?

Lets look at quality of matches. Essendon play 6/7 games against Carlton, Richmond and Collingwood (inc. ANZAC and Dreamtime)

Hawthorn by contrast play 5 of their 11 games against GWS (17000), Fremantle (45000), Sydney (55000 last home game), St Kilda (33000), Melbourne (50000 last home game)

Great crowds but hardly the bastion of high drawing fixtures

What do you say we open another tiny?

hawthorn have been up the top end of the ladder since 2005 ish
Essendon have been shit since 2001

so hawthorn should be up there, crowd wise, membership, sponsorship as they have been one of the best preformed teams in the comp for the last 7 odd years.
but have a look at how s tkilda did in there year they made the GF
2009 crowd average 41,157k members 31,906k
2010 44,307k 39,021
2011 35,697k 39,276
2012 31,601k 35,440
2013 28,857k 32,707k
2014 29,332k 29,332k

cant be stuffed looking up revenue but
last year they where down there with the bulldogs and lost money.
for those successful years when they played in the grand finals bandwagon fans jumped on board & now look at them they are struggling, on & off field, financially & for fans

all good things come to an end when hawthorns period of success is over they will be down the lower end of the ladder, & what happened to hawthorn when their golden period came to an end in the 90s, bankrupt, merger talks & no fans. now after several years of living off hand outs, waverley park given, and renovated at the expanse of the afl, selling games to tassie & investing in pokes & going through a golden period on field. and you wanna beat your chest & call Essendon irrelevant, when they have been shit for the past 13 years and still bigger club than hawforn.

dream on idiot
I'm not sure how to interrupt this incoherent rubbish other than to say that Hawthorn outdrew St Kilda by 100,000's in seasons in which they made the GF's.

2009
4. Hawthorn 892017 (average 40516)
7. St Kilda 767209 (average 34873)

2010
5. Hawthorn 922136 (average 41915)
7. St Kilda 831719 (average 37941)

In fact Hawthorn has not dropped below 40000 from an average across home and away games since 2007. Along with Collimgwood, Essendom and Carlton they are the only club to share this distinction...

Quite an achievement considering that the 4 games in Tasmania cost us 80000 to 100000 on our total attendan3 (3500 to 4500 per game)

Once again you have proven yourself to be a terribly inadequate poster

Ah well there's always Phuket I guess
 

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cant be stuffed looking up revenue but
last year they where down there with the bulldogs and lost money.
for those successful years when they played in the grand finals bandwagon fans jumped on board & now look at them they are struggling, on & off field, financially & for fans
Umm so I did

Last season Hawthorn generated $64,000,000 in revenue which was second to Collingwood in the league. To make the point at just how shit you are at this, the famed luxury tax that you guessed it Hawthorn, Collingwood and West Coast are being forced to pay in order to keep your shit club alive through this ASADA investigation is on the basis of revenue

...a point I continually pawn you with on the Footy Industry board

Perhaps 'bush accountant' isn't your specialty afterall :eek:
 
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Umm so I did

Last season Hawthorn generated $64,000,000 in revenue which was second to Collingwood in the league. To make the point at just how shit you are at this, the famed luxury tax that you guessed it Hawthorn, Collingwood and West Coast are being forced to pay in order to keep your shit club alive through this ASADA investigation is on the basis of revenue

...a point I continually pawn you with on the Footy Industry board

Perhaps 'bush accountant' isn't your specialty afterall :eek:
like Essendon and the other clubs have done for your shit mob the last 20 years, only for the whorethorn to invest in pokes.
Essendon has never been in debt for their 140 year of existance up untill now to built the new tullarmarine facility

whorethorn have never spent a cent in any infrastructure or anything
AFL and mirvac built and gave you waverley
you demanded the stadium be up graded in Tassie

for whorethorn to become a big club
5m of that came from selling home games to tassie
18 odd million come from pokes.
which came from hand outs and selling home games,
take the pokes out you guys are nothing but minnow's
even with stretched membership numbers!
so live in your little false sense of security bubble, when this period of success ends, they will go back off in to non existence, just like the last 90s.
its funny Essendon is still a bigger club, with being crap for the last 13 years, than whorethorn winning two flags & having a golden period of success,
:thumbsu:keep it up ********

old whorethorn the family club, claiming they donate to community benefits, but only to pump money in to the club

CASHED-UP premiership team Hawthorn has paid itself almost $2 million in revenue from its poker machine club - and then claimed it as a community benefit.

The triumphant Hawks - along with other AFL clubs that own poker machine venues - have been exploiting a legislative loophole that allows them to claim a smorgasbord of venue expenses and running costs as community benefits.

In total, Hawthorn claimed that last financial year it pumped $3.3 million of revenue from its poker machine venue, Vegas at Waverley Gardens, back into the community. However, analysis of the payments shows only $3058 - or 0.1% - was for genuine community gifts or sponsorships unrelated to running the business.

The extent to which Hawthorn has manipulated its ethical obligations to the community as an owner of a poker machine venue was revealed last week when it lodged its community benefit statement with Victoria's gambling regulator.

The $1.9 million payment, to "subsidise football operations", was listed as a community benefit. It is all the more curious as records show that Hawthorn made no such claim last year.

A spokesman for the Hawthorn Football Club said the club was busy conducting its Best and Fairest yesterday and declined to comment.

The club - which also claimed the community had benefited from the purchase of nine televisions and monitors and a calculator - has come under fire from anti-gambling groups after winning approval in July to operate 80 poker machines in the economically repressed Caroline Springs, in Melbourne's west.

A Monash University analysis of community benefit statements lodged by the AFL clubs that own gambling venues found they contributed $15.6 million to the community last financial year. But only 4.1% of claims were for genuine charitable or benevolent purposes, the rest was for ongoing costs of venues such as wages, electricity, cleaning, rent and repairs.

Dr Charles Livingstone, a senior lecturer at Monash University's department of health science, said his analysis showed the clubs that run pokies venues - including Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon, the Western Bulldogs, Geelong, Melbourne, North Melbourne, Richmond and St Kilda - had "significantly overstated" the actual benefits to the community from poker machine earnings.

A lack of transparency made it difficult to tell how much money was going to clubs as a so-called community benefit. "Once you look beyond the facade, the whole thing is a sham," he said.

Dr Livingstone said Hawthorn's large subsidy disclosure was perhaps the result of the premiership team being more honest than other clubs, but, he added, it "could explain why Hawthorn have come so good so fast".

"They've got a stream of money coming straight into the club," he said. "The successful clubs are the ones that get their on-field as well as their business side together. They are the ones that can afford to pay their players well and employ good coaching staff.

"The club that has got more money for these things will end up going better."

Under the law, poker machine venues run in pubs and hotels are charged a community benefit tax of 8.3% of gambling revenue, but as club venues - including those run by AFL clubs and RSLs - are seen as operating for community benefit anyway, they must simply declare each year how 8.3% of their revenue is spent on benefiting the community.

The AFL-run pokies venues are not alone in using legal loopholes to claim ongoing business expenses, but anti-gambling groups believe payments to large football clubs do not constitute real community benefit.

In the clubs' community benefit statements lodged last week with the Victorian Commissioner for Gambling Regulation, the Western Bulldogs - which is pushing to open a large pokies venue in Maribyrnong - claimed $10,636 for player appearances at Club Leeds, then another $13,051 for player appearances at the Vic Inn, Williamstown.

Geelong claimed $8219 for a new interchange bench, $9029 for the football department and $121,964 for "maintaining football team". Melbourne claimed $12,408 for promotional liquor as a community benefit. North Melbourne claimed a "poker subsidy" of $5930 and St Kilda claimed $9193 for players' equipment.

The community benefit statements also showed the AFL clubs - and clubs generally - were continuing to pour large amounts of money into outdoor smoking areas. Carlton claimed $31,729 for a smoking room, while Collingwood claimed $32,861 for renovation of an outside smoking area.

Neither Collingwood nor the Western Bulldogs would comment on the scheme when contacted by The Sunday Age.

Michael Sinclair, a spokesman for Gaming Minister Tony Robinson, said the State Government was warning clubs that they would have to pay a higher taxation rate and could ultimately lose their gaming machines if they failed to satisfy community benefit obligations.

But the Opposition accused the Government of sitting on its hands while 12 months of "sometimes questionable" community benefits found their way through the loophole Labor had provided.

"Every questionable claim reduces funding to genuinely benefit the community," shadow gaming spokesman Michael O'Brien said.

InterChurch Gambling Taskforce chairman Mark Zirnsak said he acknowledged there was some community benefit funding sport, but big AFL clubs had moved away from their communities and had come to rely on gambling revenue as an income source.

"They have a concerning disregard for the harm done in these communities - people are losing their jobs, marriages are breaking up and people are turning to crime to fund their gambling addiction. The clubs don't seem to see this," he said.

Victorians lost a record $2.6 billion on poker machines last financial year. The new regulations, which tighten the community benefit categories but still allow venues to claim some ongoing costs and wages, apply this financial year.



Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/h...nity-benefit-20081004-4txr.html#ixzz35bl8VK22
 

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revenue, selling games to tassie and 1/3 of it coming from pokes. & still only made 2 million more than the bombers, take out the non poke revenue and hawthorn make penuts, they are way back in the pack.
hawthorns membership is inflated thanks to its support from tassie members the 9 or 10k & the 4 kids for every family package sold
Essendon are still ahead in sponsorship, even after hawthorn are selling their home games to tassie, which is part of their sponsorship package with the tasmanian government.
  • Essendon - 16.84 million, up from 15.92 million
  • Hawthorn - 15.22 million, up from 15.08 million

merchandise revenue
  • Hawthorn - 3.7 million, up from 3.1 million
  • Essendon - 3.24 million, up from 3.22 million
hawthorn selling just a bit more after winning the GF, yet Essendon sold more the year before,

Essendon do as well travel and play in those jam tin stadiums eg GWS and Carrarra so what is your point? went to the GC & GWS both last year, as well as GWS & against brisbane this year
it is known that the MCG will always draw more than Etihad
pies vs dogs 28k 3.20pm start last Sunday
bombers vs demons 44k. 4.40 start last sunday evening
a game where hawthorn only drew 17k vs the GWS at in a similar time slot at the MCG

Essendon play 7 games at the MCG to hawthorns 11
hawthorn have been up the top end of the ladder since 2005 ish
Essendon have been shit since 2001

so hawthorn should be up there, crowd wise, membership, sponsorship as they have been one of the best preformed teams in the comp for the last 7 odd years.
but have a look at how s tkilda did in there year they made the GF
2009 crowd average 41,157k members 31,906k
2010 44,307k 39,021
2011 35,697k 39,276
2012 31,601k 35,440
2013 28,857k 32,707k
2014 29,332k 29,332k

cant be stuffed looking up revenue but
last year they where down there with the bulldogs and lost money.
for those successful years when they played in the grand finals bandwagon fans jumped on board & now look at them they are struggling, on & off field, financially & for fans

all good things come to an end when hawthorns period of success is over they will be down the lower end of the ladder, & what happened to hawthorn when their golden period came to an end in the 90s, bankrupt, merger talks & no fans. now after several years of living off hand outs, waverley park given, and renovated at the expanse of the afl, selling games to tassie & investing in pokes & going through a golden period on field. and you wanna beat your chest & call Essendon irrelevant, when they have been shit for the past 13 years and still bigger club than hawforn.

dream on idiot
You forgot the AOD financials
 
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This herein is why you are an embarrassment as a poster. Unless the AFL differentiates what constitutes sponsorship, commercial revenue etc. the individual values are irrelevent. Without constancy the macro values are king

most clubs seem pretty even in how they declare their sponsorship but keep whinging and making up excuese about why whorethorn are not on top




Merchandise Income from 2012
  • Essendon - $3,226,302
  • Hawthorn - $2,700,000
whorethorn sell so much for having so many years of going through a golden period of success, & Essendon 13 years of being shit and still up top or near the top of merchandise sales, crowds, sponsorship & memberships


But you see it upon yourself to mention a single Sunday Night game against GWS in the wet...flog
yes whorethorns single sunday evening game the the game where you only drew 17k,
Essendon has now played 3 times just this year in this time slot and drew far better than 17k

Do you think Essnedon v Collingwood will surpass the 70000 plus we drew against the Pies in a few weeks time.
yes, even if both clubs are struggling. that figure of 70k
whould hawthorn get any near 70k if they where near the bottom end of the ladder?




Lets look at quality of matches. Essendon play 6/7 games against Carlton, Richmond and Collingwood (inc. ANZAC and Dreamtime)

Hawthorn by contrast play 5 of their 11 games against GWS (17000), Fremantle (45000), Sydney (55000 last home game), St Kilda (33000), Melbourne (50000 last home game)

Great crowds but hardly the bastion of high drawing fixtures.
where else are you meant to play them and will the crowd be any higher?
no it is well known that etihad does not draw as much as the MCG and is hadn't done for years. there is at least 5 to 10k difference
best example of that was theother week
in the sunday evening slot
collingwood vs dogs 28k under the roof
Essendon vs demons 44 at the MCG in the wet



I'm not sure how to interrupt this incoherent rubbish other than to say that Hawthorn outdrew St Kilda by 100,000's in seasons in which they made the GF's.

2009
4. Hawthorn 892017 (average 40516)
7. St Kilda 767209 (average 34873)

2010
5. Hawthorn 922136 (average 41915)
7. St Kilda 831719 (average 37941)

In fact Hawthorn has not dropped below 40000 from an average across home and away games since 2007. Along with Collimgwood, Essendom and Carlton they are the only club to share this distinction...

Quite an achievement considering that the 4 games in Tasmania cost us 80000 to 100000 on our total attendan3 (3500 to 4500 per game)

not every club can play at the MCG nearly every game unless you are collingwood. Every team has to travel and play in smaller venues, but i am pointing out the falling away of crowds after them teams period of success ended
Essendon has sustained the level of crowds playing out of Etihad, where for home games its capacity is only around 45k thanks to the presold memberships, playing up on the GC & GWS expansion sides despite being shit for the last decade

so keep the personal attacks up, the jealous rants up whorethorn are only relevant thanks to the golden period of success that they are now going through, you think that the 64 million they make up in revenue they are a more financially Superior club to Essendon who made 62, thanks to their poker machines that was brought on hands outs & selling home games. with out them they are a minnow &they have a revenue of a st kilda north melbourne
 

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most clubs seem pretty even in how they declare their sponsorship but keep whinging and making up excuese about why whorethorn are not on top
Umm no they don't...

The AFL doesn't have a consistent reporting standard across the clubs, just ask the Wookie to confirm this

...and I have experience in this field. You???

Merchandise Income from 2012
  • Essendon - $3,226,302
  • Hawthorn - $2,700,000
whorethorn sell so much for having so many years of going through a golden period of success, & Essendon 13 years of being shit and still up top or near the top of merchandise sales, crowds, sponsorship & memberships
Again you flog this only reflects club sales through the shop. The merchandise identitied in this reporting standard is pittance compared to what the clubs generate in total merchandise sales.

Essendon has now played 3 times just this year in this time slot and drew far better than 17k
Against GWS in the Sunday Night slot. Lets see how your crowds hold up, hey?

yes, even if both clubs are struggling. that figure of 70k
whould hawthorn get any near 70k if they where near the bottom end of the ladder?
I dunno bro

Are you still struggling to grasp the fundamentals of a revenue tax? Cause it see,s you're struggling something chronic

VB, Phuket and Blue Singlets :thumbsu:

where else are you meant to play them and will the crowd be any higher?
no it is well known that etihad does not draw as much as the MCG and is hadn't done for years. there is at least 5 to 10k difference
best example of that was theother week
in the sunday evening slot
collingwood vs dogs 28k under the roof
Essendon vs demons 44 at the MCG in the wet


not every club can play at the MCG nearly every game unless you are collingwood. Every team has to travel and play in smaller venues, but i am pointing out the falling away of crowds after them teams period of success ended
Essendon has sustained the level of crowds playing out of Etihad, where for home games its capacity is only around 45k thanks to the presold memberships, playing up on the GC & GWS expansion sides despite being shit for the last decade

so keep the personal attacks up, the jealous rants up whorethorn are only relevant thanks to the golden period of success that they are now going through, you think that the 64 million they make up in revenue they are a more financially Superior club to Essendon who made 62, thanks to their poker machines that was brought on hands outs & selling home games. with out them they are a minnow &they have a revenue of a st kilda north melbourne
That's a cool story bro

Notwithstanding the fact that you used St Kilda as reference (for no apparent reason I can understand?) and our crowds shat all over them even during their GF run...

Once again you have proven yourself to be an inadequate poster.

VB, Phuket and Blue Singlets :thumbsu:
 

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Interesting comments from the Port Power CEO

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...ount-in-revised-afl-tally-20140626-zsmum.html

"It fascinates me that we always refer to Collingwood, Hawthorn, Carlton and Essendon as the powerbrokers of the AFL. Why is that? I think as a non-Victorian that notwithstanding that we get a great deal of support from the AFL, I think the general tone is Victorian-centric."

I was user the impression that Hawthorn was a Tasmanian minnow, well at least according to that flog brisbane13 anyway
 
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