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I see GuruJane a big subscriber to Dubya's dim-witted and simplistic assertion that "you're either with us or you're with the terrorists".
 
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Guru O'Reilly you still haven't resolved how you insist that everyone should have access to viewing the beheading videos, as you so passionately campaigned for and your vilification of Al Jazeera for doing what you so passionately argued for.

Or is it that you just hate yourself?

Nor have you yet to differentiate why Al Jazeera should be singled out when so much Western media has also shown the same material?

Or are you just going to resort to the the usual abuse in order to push your point.
 

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I agree with Jane.

This network is the voice of middle east terrorism, the Sinn Fein of the region. It contributes to terrorism by it's reporting.
Hopefull You will be in the neighborhood when they drop the bomb.
 

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Your terrorist friends just blew up 35 IRAQI CHILDREN only a fortnight ago.

Keep applauding, blossom.
You really are odd. Quoting Fox as a balanced provider of opinions ( they don't do news - too expensive ) yet you can the only provider of differently sourced news from the Middle East. You appear desperate to take the high moral ground continually - and as a result must be selective about the 'facts'. The truth is always elusive so all points of view must be canvassed. Anyway, your occasional macho postering betrays your shallow views. You're a wind-up artist. How's that plan to invade the whole Middle East going ? That'll make the world a more peaceful place.
 

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Easy way to stop the beheadings, get all the non Iraqi people out of Iraq.

OH & Jane, they are only beheading non Iraqi's, it's the invading forces who are killing innocent Iraqi women & children.
Yea. lets get back to mass gassing of civilians instead, the good old days eh Mantis :mad:

And yea, those nasty invaders who got rid of Saddam, don't you wish he was back in poer :mad:
 

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And Mantis, just fkin take a look at how many Iraqi's the insurgents have killed v how many coalition people before you make more stupid an inflammatory ignorant comments.
 

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Jim Boy said:
Guru O'Reilly you still haven't resolved how you insist that everyone should have access to viewing the beheading videos, as you so passionately campaigned for and your vilification of Al Jazeera for doing what you so passionately argued for.

Or is it that you just hate yourself?

Nor have you yet to differentiate why Al Jazeera should be singled out when so much Western media has also shown the same material?

Or are you just going to resort to the the usual abuse in order to push your point.
You just don't get it, Jimmie, do you?

Children. Drinking their own urine. Stripped to their underwear. Shot in the back.

Children. Deliberately blown to pieces.

You. Justifying. Anything.
 
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GuruJane said:
You just don't get it, Jimmie, do you?

Children. Drinking their own urine. Stripped to their underwear. Shot in the back.

Children. Deliberately blown to pieces.

You. Justifying. Anything.
Are you suggesting that Al Jazeera are directly responsible for Beslan or other atrocities??

Do you think these things wouldn't have happened if the arabs didn't have this station??

It's pretty easy to get indignant, start throwing around accusations, but do you have even the slightest logical argument to back up this or just about anything that you ever say?

Guru O'Reilly, the name fits.
 

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Thats the way Jane...now you are truly showing your true colours.

And Frodo comes to your defence....gee, now thats something to really be proud of.

Oh..I read with interest the other day that an IDF soldier forced a Palestinian boy to drink his urine at a checkpoint....I eagerly awaited your condemnation....considering how much you have bleated on about that sort of thing...but alas, all we got was silence.

Seems that you approve of that sort of behavior when its an Israeli on a Palestinian.

Your nothing but a racist pig Jane.....no more no less. I can't beleive that I ever took you seriously!

And the fact that the other racist pig Frodo comes to your defence, says so much about the type of person you are.

As another poster already mentioned....we can only hope that it is your home that is destroyed....as without scum like you, the world would be a much better place.
 

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Thats the way Jane...now you are truly showing your true colours.

And Frodo comes to your defence....gee, now thats something to really be proud of.

Oh..I read with interest the other day that an IDF soldier forced a Palestinian boy to drink his urine at a checkpoint....I eagerly awaited your condemnation....considering how much you have bleated on about that sort of thing...but alas, all we got was silence.

Seems that you approve of that sort of behavior when its an Israeli on a Palestinian.

Your nothing but a racist pig Jane.....no more no less. I can't beleive that I ever took you seriously!

And the fact that the other racist pig Frodo comes to your defence, says so much about the type of person you are.

As another poster already mentioned....we can only hope that it is your home that is destroyed....as without scum like you, the world would be a much better place.
Still at the hate mail eh, Lestat. Nothing of substance to contribute just hatred and propaganda.

You know 'real' muslims are kind and good in general. It's only evil radicals that cause all the problems. Mirror - look
 

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Still at the hate mail eh, Lestat. Nothing of substance to contribute just hatred and propaganda.

You know 'real' muslims are kind and good in general. It's only evil radicals that cause all the problems. Mirror - look
Well well, if it isn't Jane's poodle.

So Jane...when did you teach your poodle how to type. Thats quite a party trick.
 

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Oh..I read with interest the other day that an IDF soldier forced a Palestinian boy to drink his urine at a checkpoint....I eagerly awaited your condemnation....considering how much you have bleated on about that sort of thing...but alas, all we got was silence.
It was Muslims who forced the children to drink their own urine. Who forced them to strip to their underwear, or naked. Who shot them in the back.

It was Muslims who deliberately targeted and blew the 35 Iraqi children to pieces.

Facist Muslims, but Muslims none the less.

It wasn't an IDF soldier, Lestat.

I feel very sorry for you.
 

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It was Muslims who forced the children to drink their own urine. Who forced them to strip to their underwear, or naked. Who shot them in the back.
And I agree that it was a barbaric act, and the perpertrators should be bought to justice, and punished...with no mercy.

However...you surprise me Jane. I would of thought that you of all people would be rather proud of this sort of action. After all...the IDF has a long history of shooting kids in the back...yet you seem to defend them without fail.

So what do we have here...on the one hand, you continuously try to justify the murder of palestinian children killed by IDF soldiers, often shot in the back, shot in class in the head........makes you feel all good inside hey Jane. Another muslim dead.

Yet you are so vocal regarding Beslan.

Hypocricy....you really ought to look it up in the dictionary...you'll see a picture of your ugly face looking back at you.

GuruJane said:
It was Muslims who deliberately targeted and blew the 35 Iraqi children to pieces.
Now that is another one of your many lies Jane. They were not deliberately targetted at all. A school bus just happened to be passing by when the bomb went off. It is what you would describe as 'collateral damage'.

But of course, if you have any evidence that the children were targetted, now is the time for you to cough up any evidence.

In no way does this excuse what happened...but it is YOU that often defends the deaths of innocent arabs killed by US bombs as 'collateral damage'....so please explain, how is the death of these Iraqi children any different. Collateral damage is unfortunate...however an unnavoidable fact of war....now I wonder, who is it that has often said these very words.

Oh...thats right...its was you!

And one other thing....how dare you go on about the deaths of these children, when you continuously defend the murder of Iraqi children by US bombs...when you continually in the past have defended the sanctions..which killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children.

Have you no shame. Your hypocricy is astounding.

GuruJane said:
It wasn't an IDF soldier, Lestat.
Really Jane?

So how do you explain this...

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/09/29/1096401642707.html

And this....

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/WO0409/S00237.htm

And this...

http://www.aljazeerah.info/News arc... Supreme Court Protects Sadistic Soldiers.htm

So perhaps...when you've taken your foot from out of your mouth...you can perhaps comment on these abuses. I look forward to hearing your equally vocal condemnation of these IDF soldiers and there barbaric behaviour.

GuruJane said:
I feel very sorry for you.
Why thank you Jane. Feel sorry for me...whys that??

Because i'm not a racist bigotted pig such as yourself, who pathetically takes joy in the suffering of others, and who is controlled by fear. An old lonely hate filled lady who suffers from delusional thoughts.

Still clinging to the illusion that life in Iraq is great Jane????
 

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There was an interesting article in the AGE a couple of days ago regarding Al-Jazeerah and the US's 'democratic' act of pulling the plug on the station in Iraq.

Exposes the hypocricy of the United States and people like GuruJane.


Someone ought to bomb the AGE...hey Jane?
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Why the US unplugged al-Jazeera
October 23, 2004

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Banning an uncensored broadcaster makes a mockery of democracy, writes Sarah Smiles in Beirut.

It is hard to believe that one of the Arab world's most popular satellite TV stations, al-Jazeera, was ever in the Bush Administration's good books. Since the war on terror began, the Doha-based channel has had its offices in Kabul and Baghdad bombed, its journalists roughed up and imprisoned by US forces in Iraq, and more recently kicked out of the country altogether.

"In a matter of years, we've gone from being heroes to villains," says station spokesman Jihad Ballout of the channel's fallout with the US Government, which before September 11 deemed al-Jazeera's editorial independence and policy of courting Israeli viewpoints a virtual first for Arab media.

Now the target of US ire for airing propaganda from terrorist groups, the station has been banned indefinitely in Iraq by the US-installed interim Iraqi Government.

The channel regularly shows footage of hostages. It has been broadcasting considerable footage of CARE Australia official Margaret Hassan since her capture, sitting in a room and looking anxious. She was taken two weeks after kidnappers beheaded British hostage Kenneth Bigley. His drawn-out ordeal was aired frequently by the station until he was murdered.

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While the ban was initially imposed for 30 days on August 7, it was extended on September 4 when Iraqi police stormed the station's Baghdad office and evicted its staff.

"They are not very happy with our editorial policy. They accuse al-Jazeera of enticing violence and insecurity," Mr Ballout said.

The station is considering fighting the ban in the crippled Iraqi courts. "Our legal counsel does seem to believe we have a case... Democracy in Iraq isn't being served by gagging the media," Mr Ballout said.

He said the station was prepared to discuss the ban with the interim Government, but insisted al-Jazeera would never compromise its editorial independence. "We assess issues on the strength of their newsworthiness," he said. "If al-Jazeera did not relay to its audience that someone has been murdered or kidnapped, would the situation in Iraq be more peaceful?"

Al-Jazeera's policy was to avoid broadcasting images of murder and decapitation.

Beirut Institute for Media Arts director Ramez Maluf, who is also a journalism professor at the Lebanese American University, said there were no easy answers as to whether al-Jazeera was contributing to violence in Iraq by airing militants' tapes. But he rejected sanitising the conflict.

"The idea that you can sanitise war, that there's no need to show the tragedies that might disturb your dinner, is unfortunate," he said.

"International viewers, certainly American viewers, have been spared beyond reason, visually, the tragedies of wars. CNN covered the 1991 Gulf War like a game show."

Mr Ballout said al-Jazeera's popularity in the Arab world, where it has 30 to 40 million viewers, was due to its aversion to censorship.

"Usually Arab media has been subservient to Arab states. Al-Jazeera broke this vicious cycle," he said.

http://theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/22/1098316857607.html
 

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Israel is the source of all problems in the Middle East. Go straight to the source.
Yeah clearly, if only Israel were destroyed, all the Arabs would have food to eat and get a good education. The fact that a country a third the size of Tasmania exists in one corner of the Middle East is clearly the reason women in Saudi Arabia are oppressed.

Do you really believe that Spindoctor (ironic name)? Seriously, that comment is so stupid and childish, it is the equivalent of blaming poverty in the Ukraine on the existence of Luxembourg.
 

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You won't hear me complaining.
Thats just the type of person you are.

Considering that you take glee out of watching your precious IDF murder Palestinian girls whilst in class, it comes as no surprise at all that you would wish for the bombing of any media outlet that just so happens to occasionally print something you disagree with.

I wouldn't expect any different from a zionist pig!
 

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Yeah clearly, if only Israel were destroyed, all the Arabs would have food to eat and get a good education. The fact that a country a third the size of Tasmania exists in one corner of the Middle East is clearly the reason women in Saudi Arabia are oppressed.
Idiot. Israel provides a focus, a reason for the Arabs to hate, and the US's staunch backing of Israel a focus for hating the West. Either way, the Israeli oppression of Palestinian Arabs is wrong and you can see why the Arabs might actually have a right to be a little ********ed with Israel.

Moving on from that, I see you've brought up the "oppressed women" thing again (that's one of Jane's favourites I've noticed). Interesting, given that in the Arab world pre 2002 Iraq was one of the least discriminatory nation in the Arab world on the basis of gender, yet the US's allies such as Saudi Arabia were at the forefront of gender discrimination.
 

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