very interesting arguement lads. haradasun would be better at stud because he has more speed. thats all australian breeders want these days.
i do agree with you though tim, its obvious that "most" horses dont perform better then there sires. as punter 22 said, if the stallion doesnt get early results, there buggered as poorer qaulity of mares and less numbers will come to the stallion from that point on.
as for show a heart, his sire i believe would have become one australias next top line stallions, if he did not die.
brave warrior- his statistics are amazing, and im sure he wouldnt have got the cream of the crop mares. from his only 2 crops to race, he had 7 stakes winners and earnings of $7.8 million...show a heart, another warrior, scenic warrior dynamic love etc.
as for derby winners, hardly any of them have gone on to be good sires. benicio will fail as a stallion for sure. elvstroem may do better because he was strong from 1600-2000m. blackfriars-dud, arena-struggling.