If the State of Emergency in Victoria is extended 12 months as planned....

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I think Gary Ablett Sr was sincere and is more correct than not. Many people are quick to dismiss a new point of view.

Who in September 2019 would not have dismissed the possibility of locking down the second largest (pop.) state for no reason, other than to help cover the tracks of an idiot, ruthless zealot Premier, who had made a catastprophic error of judgement for political and corrupt reasons, yet retain support of more than half the polled voters.

It's not a new point of view, people dismiss it because it is dumb.
 
Gee, what a turnaround, 180 degree turnaround.

laughable, pathetically laughable.

You are so entwined in your own opinion, you would not know which way is up. Living with covid is real, keep flicking through other peoples views for any that suit your spin & dream of .... real world are the front line workers & they live with covid every day, real world Les, try it.
 

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Man, social media has done and facilitated some really cool stuff.

But reading this thread, it's genuinely concerning to see the extent that it manipulates people.

This thread and the conspiracy theories being pushed, are clear evidence that the algorithms are wirking precisely as intended!
 
Man, social media has done and facilitated some really cool stuff.

But reading this thread, it's genuinely concerning to see the extent that it manipulates people.

This thread and the conspiracy theories being pushed, are clear evidence that the algorithms are wirking precisely as intended!

True but that is more a fault of our education system in not teaching critical thinking. A major reason why these theories get so much traction in America is that their basic education system is very poor. The college education system is quite good though so you get this big disparity between a group who understand science and logic and a group who think a random blog has as much credibility as a scientific paper.
 
Whats the emergency? A virus with a better than 99% survival right rate than only kills the elderly. Better crash the economy, lock people in their homes and create a suicide epidemic.

Gary Ablett spoke more sense on the subject than Dan Andrews ever has.
 
IM hearing hotel accommodation for quarantine is an issue to get more people moved internationally

Would a couple of cruise ships in melbourne and sydney do the trick? obviously not packed in like a normal cruise, but would be easier to manage and staff could live aboard

The backlog could be cleared for christmas, the economy improving due to more people around and opened up due to less restrictions would cover the costs
 
IM hearing hotel accommodation for quarantine is an issue to get more people moved internationally

Would a couple of cruise ships in melbourne and sydney do the trick? obviously not packed in like a normal cruise, but would be easier to manage and staff could live aboard

The backlog could be cleared for christmas, the economy improving due to more people around and opened up due to less restrictions would cover the costs

Perhaps but cruise ships are pretty known for being floating disease incubators.
 
IM hearing hotel accommodation for quarantine is an issue to get more people moved internationally

Would a couple of cruise ships in melbourne and sydney do the trick? obviously not packed in like a normal cruise, but would be easier to manage and staff could live aboard

The backlog could be cleared for christmas, the economy improving due to more people around and opened up due to less restrictions would cover the costs

Have you run the numbers?
What are the numbers overseas looking to return ASAP/before Xmas?

I understand there was a number of cruise ships lurking off Freo.
 

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There’s nothing wrong with having different opinions and discussing them freely, it’s the name calling, circular arguing and constantly brow beating your opinions onto other people if you don’t agree with them. Back and forth discussion is important, fighting and spamming things off the internet is just counter productive. Just report abuse and scroll past anything that you can’t discuss reasonably and the thread is good :)
 
Whats the emergency? A virus with a better than 99% survival right rate than only kills the elderly. Better crash the economy, lock people in their homes and create a suicide epidemic.

Gary Ablett spoke more sense on the subject than Dan Andrews ever has.

Don't 'sickies' cost the economy over $30b per year?

Economically, even if it doesn't kill you, if it's enough to keep you home from work then the economy is going to hit hard by it anyway.
 
True but that is more a fault of our education system in not teaching critical thinking. A major reason why these theories get so much traction in America is that their basic education system is very poor. The college education system is quite good though so you get this big disparity between a group who understand science and logic and a group who think a random blog has as much credibility as a scientific paper.

Not disagreeing.

But social media algorithms are designed to maintain your attention. They do that by spamming you with s**t that is designed to release dopamine.

Likes, tags, views, comments, notifications etc. are all specifically aimed at getting you hooked. Meanwhile, you get spammed with ads which are targeted directly at you at certain times about certain things that the algorithm knows will interest you.

The other human trait they prey on, is the need to be validated. That's why people that look at posts by friends or click on articles about how the lockdown is s**t, get spammed relentlessly with more and more posts, articles, ads, stories etc. that relate to the topic and opinion that the lockdown is s**t. It becomes the only side of the story they're exposed to.
It's why the conspiracy theorists are all clumped together.
It's why those that think COVID is a scam find so much information supporting their view, and why thry think everyone else is so dumb for not seeing it! It's like sitting in the cheer squad at the footy.

The same is true for those on the other side of the COVID debate.


It's exactly how social media and big tech is designed to work.
 
Whats the emergency? A virus with a better than 99% survival right rate than only kills the elderly. Better crash the economy, lock people in their homes and create a suicide epidemic.

Gary Ablett spoke more sense on the subject than Dan Andrews ever has.
I think you and Gary are both on the meth. Have you watched the news and seen what was happening overseas? My uncle passed away from covid and was only 60. Hardly elderly
 
I think you and Gary are both on the meth. Have you watched the news and seen what was happening overseas? My uncle passed away from covid and was only 60. Hardly elderly
Its the same as the people claiming "its no worse than the flu" despite higher case and death numbers, and despite countries completely locking down for periods of time.
 
Dan Andrews is a super premier and should have total power to extend emergency for how ever long he is in office
 

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