If we don't win more than 4 games this season..

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That would mean we qualify for another priority pick, wouldn't it?

From the sounds of things (especially mojo31), this year is suppose to be a damn fine draft oozing with talent. Should we qualify for a priority pick, we'll probably be the only club to do so (within the new system), meaning we'd have access to picks 1 and 2. Imagine the list we'd have moving into 2007. :eek:

I'm just curious to know, in advance, if we have another bad/bottom 4 season, would you be behind us to receive the pp?

I know it's too early to ask, but we may as well get it out of the way now.... before emotions become involved... :eek:
 

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You won more than 4 last year so you can't.

It wouldn't surprise me though that if you win less than 4 the club may request special assistance in the draft.
 

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Sorry to break the news but the AFL has lifted it's skirt to the media once again and changed the Priority pick rules. If you earn a priority pick now you recieve it straight after the first round instead of before the first round of drafting. So assuming nobody else gets a priority pick and we do we'd only get pick 1, pick 17 and pick 18.
 

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gandaal said:
Sorry to break the news but the AFL has lifted it's skirt to the media once again and changed the Priority pick rules. If you earn a priority pick now you recieve it straight after the first round instead of before the first round of drafting. So assuming nobody else gets a priority pick and we do we'd only get pick 1, pick 17 and pick 18.
I thought they just changed the rules for qualifying. If what you say is true though, then how exactly is it a 'priority' pick?

And to JD:

How are you always the first one to post on a Carlton related thread? .... Even on the Carlton board? :confused:

I'm not sure whether to be impressed or disturbed.
 

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I thought they just changed the rules for qualifying. If what you say is true though, then how exactly is it a 'priority' pick?

And to JD:

How are you always the first one to post on a Carlton related thread? .... Even on the Carlton board? :confused:

I'm not sure whether to be impressed or disturbed.
We're both right. You can still get a priority pick at the beginning if you finish the end of the season with 16 point two seasons in a row... which is a impossibly low threshold imo.

We finished this season with 18 points so we don't qualify.

http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=237547
 

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We can get a priority pick after the first round and it would be worth finishing on four wins to get 3 players in the top 20. As long as the Russells, Walkers, O'Hailpins, Hartlett, etc. show something I can live with adding Thorp, Proud, Schmidt and Sheldon in the first 3 rounds. :) :cool:

I guess that makes me a lemming if I want the club to succeed! :eek:
 

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And to JD:

How are you always the first one to post on a Carlton related thread? .... Even on the Carlton board? :confused:

I'm not sure whether to be impressed or disturbed.
You don't think "always" is an exaggeration? Maybe you could show me all these mystery threads, especially on this board.

As for why I responded, I'd been away from the PC for a while, phone rang, while talking I click the "New Posts" link. Your thread appears, I think I can answer the question, so I respond. Isn't that what message boards are for? Normally I wouldn't on this board but I've been asked to post more here when I can contribute. See, no mystery. ;)
 

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I'd be happy if we can finish outside the bottom 4, but if we can't, I want another front row seat in the national draft. :cool:

And JD, who asked you to post here more? And more importantly, why the need to oblige?
 

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We can get a priority pick after the first round and it would be worth finishing on four wins to get 3 players in the top 20. As long as the Russells, Walkers, O'Hailpins, Hartlett, etc. show something I can live with adding Thorp, Proud, Schmidt and Sheldon in the first 3 rounds. :) :cool:

I guess that makes me a lemming if I want the club to succeed! :eek:

6 to 7 wins. More development of the younger players. A better percentage and more competitve team. Finish off the bottom of the ladder. Get a gun with the first pick. Get a skilled midfielder with our second round pick. Trade and get another pick in the 20 to 30 range and use it to get another runner. Pick up Sammy. We get the same result but get some respect back into the place.

No need for a PP. Let another team get some cutlery this year. I have had my fill of spoons for a very long time.
 

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6 to 7 wins. More development of the younger players. A better percentage and more competitve team. Finish off the bottom of the ladder. Get a gun with the first pick. Get a skilled midfielder with our second round pick. Trade and get another pick in the 20 to 30 range and use it to get another runner. Pick up Sammy. We get the same result but get some respect back into the place.

No need for a PP. Let another team get some cutlery this year. I have had my fill of spoons for a very long time.
agreed :thumbsu:
 

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6 to 7 wins. More development of the younger players. A better percentage and more competitve team. Finish off the bottom of the ladder. Get a gun with the first pick. Get a skilled midfielder with our second round pick. Trade and get another pick in the 20 to 30 range and use it to get another runner. Pick up Sammy. We get the same result but get some respect back into the place.

No need for a PP. Let another team get some cutlery this year. I have had my fill of spoons for a very long time.
Yeah, totally agree. We've been down the bottom long enough, would absolutely hate another bottom 3/4 finish.
 

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6 to 7 wins. More development of the younger players. A better percentage and more competitve team. Finish off the bottom of the ladder. Get a gun with the first pick. Get a skilled midfielder with our second round pick. Trade and get another pick in the 20 to 30 range and use it to get another runner. Pick up Sammy. We get the same result but get some respect back into the place.

No need for a PP. Let another team get some cutlery this year. I have had my fill of spoons for a very long time.
It's only early but I don't see a club which has less talent and skill than we do. It's obvious that the bottom eight sides have as much potential to improve if not more than Carlton do. I don't have much faith in our backline being able to keep the opposition to a score that we can beat every 3 third week.

I want to see a competitive team but I think we'll have a similar year to Hawthorn last year with our draft picks coming in and playing well. 4-6 wins.

I am greedy in wanting more A grade talent and I acknowledge we can't have another bad year given the shape of the club's finances, but I'm not expecting more wins unless Fev has a year like he did in 2004.

Which player would be traded for another draft pick between 20 and 30? :cool:
 

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This thread is moot. Wether you like it or not carlton are going to make the eight. Pie in the sky, not at all.

This is giong to be one of those years. There are going to be three or four players who step up (I dont mean the old guard) and thats all it takes. These three or four inspire the rest, the tail lifts and personal belief sets in.
People forget that these are all football teams and a champion team will beat a team of champions any day.

All that is missing is one second at either end ?? What ?

Lance, Lappipn, Kouta, Hoola are all able to take an extra second, see whats happening and set up play. Use the ball to our advantage. The inverse is true of our younger players. The have a second less, hence are always delivering to a player in an equal position (under the pump) or worse. This is a two second difference. This results in LOTS of fumbles, turnovers and "bombing" into contested marks especially in the forward line. If we are able to get our selves moving, get that extra second and deliver to our team mates we will excell. Our team is surviving on sheer determination, committment and endeavour when we couple that with some confidence and more time we will excell. I believe we have the talent.
Fev, Fish, Setanta, Wait and Betts are as good a set up as anyone esle in the league, if we deliver to these guys on the chest or to their advantage rather than a 50-50 bomb , look out.

As far as defence is concerned we do lack, however I think that we are almost there and this is the difference between 8th and 9th.

A bit of confidence, head down bum up, and we are good to go. Sounds unbelievable, impossible, a dream.... but thats exactly the stuff from which this club is made.


Possible Talent:

Hoolahan
Simpson
Wait
Fish
Walker
Bentick
Carrazzo
Murph
Kennedy ?
Harltett
Ohalpin

All we need is three to really step up.
 

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This thread is moot. Wether you like it or not carlton are going to make the eight. Pie in the sky, not at all.

This is giong to be one of those years. There are going to be three or four players who step up, the media talks about and thats all it takes. These three or four inspire the rest, the tail lifts and personal belief sets in.
People forget that these are all football teams and a champion team will beat a team of champions any day.

All that is missing is one second at either end ?? What ?

Lance, Lappipn, Kouta, Hoola are all able to take an extra second, see whats happening and set up play. Use the ball to our advantage. The inverse is true of our younger players. The have a second less, hence are always delivering to a player in an equal position (under the pump) or worse. This is a two second difference. This results in LOTS of fumbles, turnovers and "bombing" into contested marks especially in the forward line. If we are able to get our selves moving, get that extra second and deliver to our team mates we will excell. Our team is surviving on sheer determination, committment and endeavour when we couple that with some confidence and more time we will excell. I beleive we have the talent.
Fev, Fish, Setanta, Wait and Betts are as good a set up as anyone esle in the league, if we deliver to these guys on the chest or to their advantage rather than a 50-50 bomb , look out.

As far as defence is concerned we do lack, however I think that we are almost there and this is the difference between 8th and 9th.

A bit of confidence, head down bum up, and we are good to go. Sounds unbelievable, impossible, a dream.... but thats exactly the stuff from this club is made.
 

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I have to agree with audas. There's no reason why any club can't pull their heads in and become a more coordinated unit. Sydney have won a premiership by doing this!

In this regard, much of the responsibility rests on the coach's shoulders. Make no mistake, Denis will be under the microscope this year.
 
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Priority picks should now be struck from our vocabulary. We can not sustain losing for much longer. We are going backwards at a rate of knots as far as credibility goes and no sponsor would touch a team that loses year after year. We simply must get results this year. Another year winning only a few games and Pagan might as well take a payout and give the job to someone who wants to win.
 

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You can do both.
In respect of the part of your post you edited out, ie "Do you object to me posting here?", I guess we can't stop you unless the mods decide otherwise.

However, I see no other possible reason for you to be posting on the Carlton board other than to cause trouble. Any suggestion that your intentions are otherwise is laughable, given the nature of your posting on the main board re the Carlton FC and its supporters.
 

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In respect of the part of your post you edited out, ie "Do you object to me posting here?", I guess we can't stop you unless the mods decide otherwise.

However, I see no other possible reason for you to be posting on the Carlton board other than to cause trouble. Any suggestion that your intentions are otherwise is laughable, given the nature of your posting on the main board re the Carlton FC and its supporters.

Everyone is entitled to post here. As long as they respect the board rules. Same for any of the Catlton posters who go onto other teams boards.
I seem to recall JD sticking up for Marc Murphy and his debut game, Setanta and posting that the Caro story on Carlton seeking funding was wrong.

I do not doubt on the main board that the gloves are off but if he wants to come and post here from time to time then its fine. If you do not agree with what a person posts them argue that and not who they are. If they break the rules I wont hesitite to act.
 

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Everyone is entitled to post here. As long as they respect the board rules. Same for any of the Catlton posters who go onto other teams boards.
I seem to recall JD sticking up for Marc Murphy and his debut game, Setanta and posting that the Caro story on Carlton seeking funding was wrong.

I do not doubt on the main board that the gloves are off but if he wants to come and post here from time to time then its fine. If you do not agree with what a person posts them argue that and not who they are. If they break the rules I wont hesitite to act.
I have no objection to his posting here. However I also have no doubts as to his motives. Good on you for sticking up for him though. ;)
 
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