Society/Culture If you were on Newstart, how would you spend your $40 a day?

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Craven Morehead

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More specific, please. The towns/locations the jobs themselves are in, so I can work out a) if commuting from their current place of residence is possible, or b) what the rent at closer locales would be.

If it's acceptable, I'd have three cases: a male of reasonable fitness in their mid twenties, a mother with children and/or a spouse (considered with and without their spouse) and finally a person in their mid/late fifties. Does that sound like a fair set of case studies?
Oh f*** off. Have a look at a map.
It's not south as that's NSW.
It's not east as they'd need to be dolphins.
Think about it pal.
If they live in Brisbane or Toowoomba they're hardly going to commute daily.
You're just being a dick.
 

Craven Morehead

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Living life on the dole in the gold coast must be sweet then.

Meh cut my dole off then. If I cant find a job, then I have to break in to your house and take some items of
yours and sell them to your local pawn shop. :)

congrats, you have exposed yourself as a gutless flog.

Hope your happy watching tough man tony abbott stood back and killed off the holden factory at elizabeth in SA too.
If that's all you've got there is very little wonder why you're still living with Mum, can't learn how to drive a truck and complaining about how tough life is.
Get off your arse.
 

magpie_marty

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Simple answer is the government shuts down the 2nd party people that make money from unemployed people,
I call these the job providers and this would save millions if not more.
Then create a decent system that can indenifty the cheats that rort surely it is not hard?
Maybe ask people that had the pleasure to do work for the dole and how demolishing is it to a persons life.
My biggest issue is the job agencies. Fair enough you look for 15-20 jobs a month.

Some consultants are arrogant pieces of garbage. they wont help you, they expect you to do things your self.

No shame to be on Newstart. No shame to be on $570 a fortnight. I pay my mum $100 a week in rent/board. I live with my mum and save up what ever cash I have left to do other things.

I have been on it for 4-5 years. I have had various jobs in that time mainly labour hire jobs. So doing labouring one month. then unemployed for the next 3-5 months, then do packing for 2-3 months then nothing for 6 months, then work for the dole for 6 months then some packing jobs for 2-3 months.

I am not doing an Alffie course. I dont mind studying while being unemployed. Studying is good as long as it leads to employment.

I did try and do get a truck license this time last year. gutted I failed. Im gonna save up more cash and try again.
Hey some people think things come easy,
Keep your head up,
 

Craven Morehead

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it cost money to get lessons champ.

my JPS dont fund it. I have to save up money to do it.
Oh ffs.
Take the initiative yourself for a change. Approach 1,2 ...50 drivers in your area and ask if you could sit in the 2 seat and watch and learn.
Just DO something and stop moaning.
Life is NOT easy.
 

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Ok to the people that hate people
Two and a half hours from Brisbane. One and a half hours from Toowoomba.
Please provide graphs of your 'analysis'.



The only dicks in this thread are the ones wailing that life's too hard.
Wow so you are fully informed of his situation?
And can make such a comment?
Life is hard and that's a fact it's not a roadway to some kind of rainbow.
 

Craven Morehead

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Ok to the people that hate people

Wow so you are fully informed of his situation?
And can make such a comment?
Life is hard and that's a fact it's not a roadway to some kind of rainbow.
Informed that there are jobs available for those who wish to re-locate and work hard?
Yes, yes I am.
 

Gethelred

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Oh f*** off. Have a look at a map.
It's not south as that's NSW.
It's not east as they'd need to be dolphins.
Think about it pal.
If they live in Brisbane or Toowoomba they're hardly going to commute daily.
You're just being a dick.
... because I don't live in Queensland, I'm the dick? How dare I know less about your state than you do!

This is where I wonder why you even bother to post in here. You're not here to learn, you're not here for discussion, you're not here for affirmation, and you're too poor a troll to be in here for that. I told you originally, provide me with towns/job locations, and I'll take it from there.

You're clearly not willing to accept any conclusion which doesn't already adhere to your point of view. It's fine. You just keep on being the obnoxious caricature you are, and I'll have a beer whilst watching the cricket.
 

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Craven Morehead

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... because I don't live in Queensland, I'm the dick? How dare I know less about your state than you do!

This is where I wonder why you even bother to post in here. You're not here to learn, you're not here for discussion, you're not here for affirmation, and you're too poor a troll to be in here for that. I told you originally, provide me with towns/job locations, and I'll take it from there.

You're clearly not willing to accept any conclusion which doesn't already adhere to your point of view. It's fine. You just keep on being the obnoxious caricature you are, and I'll have a beer whilst watching the cricket.
Brisbane and Toowoomba are new cities for you??

LOLOLOLOLOL!!

You're full of s**t.
 

Gethelred

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Brisbane and Toowoomba are new cities for you??

LOLOLOLOLOL!!

You're full of s**t.
Brisbane isn't, but living somewhere is different to visiting somewhere once. I have no idea where Toowoomba is. I am still willing to research it a bit, but without locales I can't actively explore rental markets and moving costs, which is the point of the argument. I cannot discuss moving from a poor socioeconomic area in Brisbane to a 2 hour radius around the city, because I cannot then locate a place to move to. The point of the analysis is therefore circumvented, because you are completely unwilling to provide a single job or a single town out of some form of contrariness.

Funny, isn't it? I rather think you're trying too hard. I mean, I've got plenty for you to hate about me already, and my lack of knowing your home state better than you do is what you're picking?
 

Craven Morehead

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Brisbane isn't, but living somewhere is different to visiting somewhere once. I have no idea where Toowoomba is. I am still willing to research it a bit, but without locales I can't actively explore rental markets and moving costs, which is the point of the argument. I cannot discuss moving from a poor socioeconomic area in Brisbane to a 2 hour radius around the city, because I cannot then locate a place to move to. The point of the analysis is therefore circumvented, because you are completely unwilling to provide a single job or a single town out of some form of contrariness.

Funny, isn't it? I rather think you're trying too hard. I mean, I've got plenty for you to hate about me already, and my lack of knowing your home state better than you do is what you're picking?
LOL.
What a special one you are.

Try Kingaroy.
Try rentals at $300pw. 3rm 2bthrm.

Try not crying so hard.

You have NO IDEA where the largest inland city in this country is??

LOL.

Mind you, the jobs I mentioned already had this information Einstein.

LOL.

Off to your analysis like a good boy.


LOL.
 

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Oh ffs.
Take the initiative yourself for a change. Approach 1,2 ...50 drivers in your area and ask if you could sit in the 2 seat and watch and learn.
Just DO something and stop moaning.
Life is NOT easy.
if you think for a minute I live in a life of luxury l, you are sadly mistaken.

You act like I spend all my money on alcoholic beverages
 

Craven Morehead

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why dont you attack people on DSP when they scam the system and have nothing wrong with them while your at it?
Because you're on here complaining that life sucks and it's all too hard.
When a DSP scammer comes on here and does the same they'll get the same treatment.
Get off your arse boy.
 

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If you are committed enough to change your circumstances you will make it happen.
Enough of the 'poor bugger me' excuses.
Maybe. But moving your possessions interstate costs thousands. It’d have to be a permanent role to make that worthwhile.

In the shoes of a person with a family, there is also the reality of uprooting kids, partners, moving from families, perhaps elderly parents etc, communities. I am not sure this is always the answer. Maybe for a 20 year old with no commitments, but thinking back to when i was 20 I had little savings to up and move.
 

Craven Morehead

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There is at least some of it, enough really to make observations with bearing on what it'd be like for families and for the elderly.
LOL, you honestly expect people here to upload some crappy document you've produced onto their hard drive to read it?
LOL.

Maybe. But moving your possessions interstate costs thousands. It’d have to be a permanent role to make that worthwhile.

In the shoes of a person with a family, there is also the reality of uprooting kids, partners, moving from families, perhaps elderly parents etc, communities. I am not sure this is always the answer. Maybe for a 20 year old with no commitments, but thinking back to when i was 20 I had little savings to up and move.
Pretty certain earlier in the thread I stated that circumstances are different for people with family and that the jobs I referred to were suitable for younger single types.
If you are that desperate for work, why do you need to cart your possessions anywhere?
They can come later, after you've established yourself and have begun saving.
 

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LOL, you honestly expect people here to upload some crappy document you've produced onto their hard drive to read it?
LOL.



Pretty certain earlier in the thread I stated that circumstances are different for people with family and that the jobs I referred to were suitable for younger single types.
If you are that desperate for work, why do you need to cart your possessions anywhere?
They can come later, after you've established yourself and have begun saving.
I must have missed it.
Well, because you'd be paying for rent/storage in two places. On a limited income that is a lot of money.

Agree, it would be suitable for younger types but still think there is a financial hurdle.
I saw a brief report on the news this week around a Vic govt initiative to give those who have recently been released from jail work on the metro tunnel. I like that initiative. It's getting them into work, hopefully skills they can use later and a paid wage. I'd like to see more initiatives like that for those who have been unemployed for a lengthy period.
 

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LOL, you honestly expect people here to upload some crappy document you've produced onto their hard drive to read it?
LOL.
Then there's something deeply ironic about you calling anyone lazy then, if you're unwilling to to read 700 or so words. Doubly so, seeing as I'm pretty sure you've thrown that particular term at me a few times.

Basically, the whole thing hinges on possessing a car, having bosses who are sufficiently understanding of how disheveled you are over the first few weeks, or if you have any dependents. It is possible, but very difficult in the best case scenario.
 

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I'm also starting to wonder if you know what LOL means, as you use it when you're laughing, when you're angry, when you're trying to be serious and when you're taking the piss.
 

Craven Morehead

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Then there's something deeply ironic about you calling anyone lazy then, if you're unwilling to to read 700 or so words. Doubly so, seeing as I'm pretty sure you've thrown that particular term at me a few times.

Basically, the whole thing hinges on possessing a car, having bosses who are sufficiently understanding of how disheveled you are over the first few weeks, or if you have any dependents. It is possible, but very difficult in the best case scenario.
dude, no-one is going to read 700 words of excuses from some nobody on the internet.
Why is a car required?
Can't get a bus to the new town?
Can't talk to the employer about requiring transport to work until you find your feet?
Why disheveled?
Can't take a shower?
Can't wash your clothes?
Can't get the Salvo's etc to get you some decent 2nd hand gear?

You are a serial excuse maker.
Little wonder that long term unemployed find it all too hard when they have people like you crying on their behalf.
I'm also starting to wonder if you know what LOL means, as you use it when you're laughing, when you're angry, when you're trying to be serious and when you're taking the piss.
I LOL because of the crap you constantly post on this topic.
 

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