Impact of GC on DT

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Had a quick look, couldn't find an existing thread on this.

When GC comes into the comp this will bring back the weekly bye with 17 teams in the league, meaning that each week one AFL team will not be playing, the impact of which being that players in teams of the bye each week will not earn DT points. What will this mean for DT? Will DT coaches accept 0's from those players each week? Will people trade out players in bye teams each week to avoid 0's?

Keen to hear the thoughts of others, could be an interesting discussion.
 

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its going to be tuff to handle id say
they could make it so that any players you have that have a bye go onto a special "bye week bench" and you get the total value of those players to make the replacements if that makes any sense.

just somthing that came to me reading the post. im sure they will figure somthing out
 

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The idea I like most is you get a free "replacement" trade which doesn't count in the total.

So for example, if Geelong have the bye this wee, and I have Ablett in my team, I get to bring in someone just for this week to his value or lower, so I could bring say a Dalziell or Stanton or someone like that.
 

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my simple solution to this is that any player with the 'bye' get their average (as for round 1, they get their year before average)... simple...
 

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my simple solution to this is that any player with the 'bye' get their average (as for round 1, they get their year before average)... simple...
Not sure about that. What about for players that don't have a previous average? e.g a rookie like Robinson who scored 90 points on the weekend. Wouldn't be fair that you don't get those points just because he doesn't have any point scoring history.
 

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Leave it the same. You just can't pick more then two players from the same team on one line. Well, you can as long you don't have them when they play a bye or you will get a guaranteed zero.

This will separate the men from the boys.
 

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This has been discussed in length, just not in a specific thread

My opinion

Increase the salary cap by 400k

Increase each bench spot up 1 to 3 on the bench

When GC comes in there will be a larger supply of rookies to choose from that will play on your bench to cover for the players missing due to the bye

This will also force more thinking to initial squads

EG
Picking Goddard and Fisher in the Backs
Picking 1 of ABC's and Selwood in midfield
Picking Higgins and GIA in Forwards

You will think more about which 1 player you want in that position and may create more variety in picking a team and encourage players to take a risk by only selecting 1 player from each team in each position.

This will require you to think a bit harder about a player like Raines or Drummond particularly if you want Adcock and Bowden.

I hope that makes sense...
 

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... This just wouldn't work right, I haven't gotten too into it but I just know there will be a flaw to every idea. The only possible solution would be an 18th team... West Sydney?
 

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I reckon you should be able to have a larger squad. Say.. 34. That way there's 3 bench spots in each position. I reckon then it would take some strategy to pick a team without too many players from the same club. :thumbsu:
 

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Ok so 17 teams have 17 byes, who gets the other spare ones? You would hope it's not Geelong....They would have to work 3 teams have byes in a week to even it out? That's going to be a impossible situtation for dt.
 

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I'm not sure if this has been suggested or not, but after having a think today, I reckin I have an ok solution.

I believe that the score of a player involved in a bye should be calculated by what price they are at the time of the bye. Set scores could be made at the start of the season. During the year, when a "bye player" falls or rises into a certain price range at the time of a bye, the set score for that price automatically gets added.

This is a very rough and out of scale guide of how the scoring could work:
$500K = 110 points
$450K = 100 points
$400K = 90 points
$350K = 80 points
$300K = 70 points
$250K = 60 points
$200K = 50 points
ETC.

So basically, every 5K a player rises or falls equates to 1 point. I think the good thing about this is that with prices calculated over the previous 3 weeks, the current form of your player is sort of realistic to the score.

The problem with this is that DTers playing 86K rookies in the first 3 rounds are disadvantaged. Someone playing a similar scoring rookie three weeks after your bye could potentially score 30 more points for only playing later in the year. So perhaps every player under 200K needs to have the exact same score (eg 45 points). If your rookie or bargain player rises over $200K, well extra bye points is your reward. People would be close to cash cowing by then any way.

What do people think? I'm sure there are other negatives that will come up. Surely it could work though?
 

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Or just give them a repeat of last week's score.... That'll make sure players which wouldn't get a game don't score.
 

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I don't see why this is a problem. It's a challenge. More strategy involved, more elements, better game. Few more midranged players in your squad to have a true emergency. Easy.
 

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One issue with just increasing the bench size is that in some rounds there are likely to be multiple byes in some weeks.

Eg.
Weeks 1-10 > 1 bye per week
Week 11 > 7 byes
Weeks 12-15 > 1 bye per week
Week 16 > 5 byes
Weeks 17-24 > 1 per week

This is how i think the AFL will handle the bye. If they put the two "multi-bye" weeks closer together, then some teams will get 2 byes within the space of a month which isn't really ideal. Therefore, not only will you have to be careful to only have 1 player from each team in each position, you will have to carefully analyse the multi-bye weeks to make sure you don't cop a disasterous score.
Or, they might decide to give 3 teams byes for about 5 weeks which would also be pretty hard to manage.
 
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This has been discussed in length, just not in a specific thread

My opinion

Increase the salary cap by 400k

Increase each bench spot up 1 to 3 on the bench

When GC comes in there will be a larger supply of rookies to choose from that will play on your bench to cover for the players missing due to the bye

This will also force more thinking to initial squads

EG
Picking Goddard and Fisher in the Backs
Picking 1 of ABC's and Selwood in midfield
Picking Higgins and GIA in Forwards

You will think more about which 1 player you want in that position and may create more variety in picking a team and encourage players to take a risk by only selecting 1 player from each team in each position.

This will require you to think a bit harder about a player like Raines or Drummond particularly if you want Adcock and Bowden.

I hope that makes sense...
you'd also pay fairly close attention to who had the bye in rd 22
 

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I reckon tough titties like fantasy premier league will be the way they go. Its the least complex and at the end of the day it will even out.
 

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Hardly the same, most weeks all 20 teams play, and like 50 trades.

I'm guessing they will do it the easy way, increase bench to 4 per possie and a big salary increase and probably 30 trades. They want more people to play so thats the easiest for most commoners to cope with.
 
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