Improvement by the numbers. Literally.

[blues4flag]

As much as I love Walker, he's probably the only one that doesn't match up to the prior occupant of the number. Except in my heart.

Poor Yoss, all that effort and the thread is (was) only rated one. Get voting, people

 

[Jeremias]

As much as I love Walker, he's probably the only one that doesn't match up to the prior occupant of the number. Except in my heart.

Kreuzer doesn't get close to Whitnall yet.

Neither does Grigg to Camporeale.

Hartlett isn't even near Rice either.

 

[blues4flag]

Kreuzer doesn't get close to Whitnall yet.

Neither does Grigg to Camporeale.

Hartlett isn't even near Rice either.

A number aren't yet - though most of the rest have the potential to get close to, or even surpass the previous wearer of their jumper.

Walker will never surpass SOS. Though he's my favourite player, what SOS (who incidentally was my favourite while he was still playing) achieved as a player was simply outstanding.

 

[Jeremias]

A number aren't yet - though most of the rest have the potential to get close to, or even surpass the previous wearer of their jumper.

You are right in saying that most of the rest should surpass the previous wearer of the jumper.

I really like Grigga but I don't think he'll overtake Campo. Campo was my favourite player and even though he copped a lot of crap from Carlton supporters over the way he ended his career with us, he was still an excellent player for a long period of time. 233 games for 200 goals as a midfielder is a great achievement, one that I would be VERY surprised if Grigg got to.

216 games and 348 goals from Lance will also be hard to match for Kreuzer. He has every chance to reach that games tally but I doubt he'll make it in the goals department. Once again Lance copped a lot of crap for the way he ended his relationship with the club. But we must remember that he was the captain of this football club, and was an excellent player for the better part of 10 years. If Kreuze can get close we'll be doing brilliantly.

As for Hartlett and Rice, well, I have serious doubts that Harts will manage even 50 games, let alone 119 for Carlton (or 234 overall). Rice was fantastic for us.

Walker will never surpass SOS. Though he's my favourite player, what SOS (who incidentally was my favourite while he was still playing) achieved as a player was simply outstanding.

There is no chance that Walker will get even close to the Team of the Century FB in terms of achievements in the AFL. If he gets half way then we will have done well.

They'll both be premiership players, though

 

[TwiggleyFanClub]

You are right in saying that most of the rest should surpass the previous wearer of the jumper.

216 games and 348 goals from Lance will also be hard to match for Kreuzer. He has every chance to reach that games tally but I doubt he'll make it in the goals department.

But by that logic you could say that Kreuzer is already better that Lance because he's had more hitouts. Let's talk apples and apples.

 

[Sublime]

You are right in saying that most of the rest should surpass the previous wearer of the jumper.

I really like Grigga but I don't think he'll overtake Campo. Campo was my favourite player and even though he copped a lot of crap from Carlton supporters over the way he ended his career with us, he was still an excellent player for a long period of time. 233 games for 200 goals as a midfielder is a great achievement, one that I would be VERY surprised if Grigg got to.

216 games and 348 goals from Lance will also be hard to match for Kreuzer. He has every chance to reach that games tally but I doubt he'll make it in the goals department. Once again Lance copped a lot of crap for the way he ended his relationship with the club. But we must remember that he was the captain of this football club, and was an excellent player for the better part of 10 years. If Kreuze can get close we'll be doing brilliantly.

As for Hartlett and Rice, well, I have serious doubts that Harts will manage even 50 games, let alone 119 for Carlton (or 234 overall). Rice was fantastic for us.




There is no chance that Walker will get even close to the Team of the Century FB in terms of achievements in the AFL. If he gets half way then we will have done well.

They'll both be premiership players, though

So what exactly does goals have to do with if Kreuzer will be as good as Whitnall? For all i care he can be a dominant ruckman and not kick one goal. But if he dominates for us around the ground and in the ruck then he has every bit of a chance to be better than Lance. You should know more than anyone that goals doen't necessarily make the player.

 

[BlueYoss]

Poor Yoss, all that effort and the thread is (was) only rated one. Get voting, people

Cheers b4f, I've never even taken notice of the stars, let alone voted on a thread's rating, so I voted 5 to make up for lost time

BTW how/where did you get your red? I love a good war story...

 

[Jeremias]

But by that logic you could say that Kreuzer is already better that Lance because he's had more hitouts. Let's talk apples and apples.

But Lance has had more hitouts

I wasn't the one that originally compared Kreuzer to Whitnall. Using stats or no stats, it's pretty obvious that Kreuzer is a long off reaching Whitnall, and he'll be an excellent player if he gets there and/or surpasses him.

 

[thylacine60]

Happy to be a one man petition ensuring Lance Whitnall's worth to the CFC is neither forgotten nor unfairly tarnished.

 

[Jeremias]

Happy to be a one man petition ensuring Lance Whitnall's worth to the CFC is neither forgotten nor unfairly tarnished.

Pretty sure I started the petition in this thread already

But sure, you can join

 

[thylacine60]

Pretty sure I started the petition in this thread already

But sure, you can join

Deal. But I get to drive sometimes.

 

[TwiggleyFanClub]

But Lance has had more hitouts

I wasn't the one that originally compared Kreuzer to Whitnall. Using stats or no stats, it's pretty obvious that Kreuzer is a long off reaching Whitnall, and he'll be an excellent player if he gets there and/or surpasses him.

Quick, quick: averages?

Though Lance will always be better coz he averages more family buckets a week than Kreuzer averages per year.

 

[TwiggleyFanClub]

But Lance has had more hitouts

I wasn't the one that originally compared Kreuzer to Whitnall. Using stats or no stats, it's pretty obvious that Kreuzer is a long off reaching Whitnall, and he'll be an excellent player if he gets there and/or surpasses him.

Let's revisit this after Krooz's 2nd year... ;-)

 

[Jeremias]

Deal. But I get to drive sometimes.

You probably can't see 10 metres ahead of you on the road.

I'll drive

 

[Bluebear]

I watched a 2004 game over the weekend, saw Digby running around in #3 and Livingston in #4...then thought of our current #3 and #4 and #5 for that matter too.

So just to share the joy, here's the full list of our guerensey numbers with the name of the player currently wearing it and the previous player to wear it, reading down the list brings a smile to my face -Tigs and TC might even go halvies again...

# previous current
1 Stephen Silvagni Andrew Walker
2 Daniel Harford Jordan Russell
3 Digby Morell Marc Murphy
4 Luke Livingston Bryce Gibbs
5 Josh Kennedy Chris Judd
6 Adam Pickering Kade Simpson
7 Justin Davies Adam Bentick
8 Lance Whitnal Matthew Kreuzer
9 Jason Saddington Hurley/Zeibell/Hartlett?
10 Dylan Mclaren Richard Hadley
11 Cain Ackland Robbie Warnock?
12 Matthew Lappin Available
13 Luke Blackwell Available
14 David Gallagher Brad Fisher
15 David Tague Stephen Browne
16 Scott Camporeale Shaun Grigg
17 Stephen Kenna Setanta O'Hailpin
18 Glen Bowyer Paul Bower
19 Ricky Mott Eddie Betts
20 Corey McGrath Available
21 Troy Longmuire Mark Austin
22 Callum Chambers Shaun Hampson
23 Dean Rice Adam Hartlett
24 Matthew Allen Nick Stevens
25 Sam Smart Brendan Fevola
26 Adrian Deluca Joe Anderson
27 Chris Bryan Dennis Armfield
28 Ian Prendergast Cameron Cloke
29 Simon Beaumont Heath Scotland
30 Adam White Jarrad Waite
31 Simon Fletcher Jordan Bannister
32 Heath Culpitt Bret Thornton
33 Matthew Hogg Ryan Houlihan
34 Ron De Iulio Simon Wiggins
35 Blake Campbell Available
36 Trent Sporn Darren Pfeiffer
37 Karl Norman Jake Edwards
38 Ryan Jackson Available
39 Ang Christou Available
40 Adam Bentick Michael Jamison
41 Ross Young Lachie Hill
42 Callan Beasey Available
43 Anthony Koutafides Available
44 Damien Lang Andrew Carazzo
45 Anthony Franchina Aaron Joseph
46 Adam Pickering David Ellard

PS for those who find themselves scratching their heads when they get to #18, I present Glen Bowyer:

and Paul Bower:

Geez I hate it when someone quotes the whole post only to add two lines at the bottom.

Nice work BY.

 

[blues4flag]

BTW how/where did you get your red? I love a good war story...

I asked ODN to card me so I'd get away from BF and focus on my studies.

I was losing a war with myself.

 

[BlueYoss]

I asked ODN to card me so I'd get away from BF and focus on my studies.

I was losing a war with myself.

I noticed that thread after I'd already asked, so did you get any study done in the past 24hours or you coming back for another taste of ODN's big stick?

 

[blues4flag]

I noticed that thread after I'd already asked, so did you get any study done in the past 24hours or you coming back for another taste of ODN's big stick?

Got about two hours of calc done before I lost focus and meandered about in the ether.

Currently at university reading through my Physics book, trying to get my head around electromagnetism.

Up until my card was lifted, that is.

 

[as0l0]

The only player there that (how to put this) doesn't live up to in terms of potential because he still is young is Hartlett with Ricey's 23.

really?

15 David Tague Stephen Browne
16 Scott Camporeale Shaun Grigg
26 Adrian Deluca Joe Anderson
29 Simon Beaumont Heath Scotland
33 Matthew Hogg Ryan Houlihan
34 Ron De Iulio Simon Wiggins
37 Karl Norman Jake Edwards
45 Anthony Franchina Aaron Joseph