Game Day In the event of a draw...

[BigVic]

Only 3 draws in VFL/AFL history and they changed the rules in 2016 after 2 Victorian teams drew in 2010

Had Embley got pinged for HTB in the last minutes of 2006 Grand Final four years earlier, Sydney would've had a free and the opportunity to kick a score to tie the match. Both teams would've been forced to return for a full replay the following week featuring non-Victorian teams. Rules could've been changed back then.

 

[Taylor]

Do you really think the runner won't be on the field screaming at them that next score wins? You'll never see human beings running into each other harder to scrap the ball forward as when they know a long bomb from beyond fifty will win them a flag.


I like the rule, such desperation.

 

[Billy ray]

What happens next season when runners banned except after goals?

 

[SloppyJoe]

So I take it there's been a change since last year's EF? Cos I'm pretty sure the siren sounded as Shuey was lining up for goal. Or are these rules only for GFs?

As mentioned above, if the scores are level when the siren sounds at the end of 2nd half of extra time (including any shots after the siren), then the ball should go back to the middle and first score wins.

Of course there is potential for a mistake/dodgy score review etc, but that exists through the entire game anyway. And you can't have these blokes continue playing 5min ET halves. We're talking 130-140 minutes of footy by that stage.

 

[Starburns_]

So I take it there's been a change since last year's EF? Cos I'm pretty sure the siren sounded as Shuey was lining up for goal. Or are these rules only for GFs?

Port were in front by 4. So a result was confirmed either way.

What would be interesting is if the margin was 1 point whether the siren would go, and what would've happened if Shuey missed and tied the game.

 

[FootyJunkie]

Am lel-ing at all the nuffies on here that are complaining about the rules the AFL has come up with and then arguing that only a goal should account once the next score wins.

FMD a point has been an acceptable/winning score for the 150 year history of the game - why would you suddenly change the rules in this one instance

Because behinds are reward for failure, lol

 

[loki04]

Only 3 draws in VFL/AFL history and they changed the rules in 2016 after 2 Victorian teams drew in 2010

Had Embley got pinged for HTB in the last minutes of 2006 Grand Final four years earlier, Sydney would've had a free and the opportunity to kick a score to tie the match. Both teams would've been forced to return for a full replay the following week featuring non-Victorian teams. Rules could've been changed back then.

They shouldn't of changed the rules full stop there was nothing wrong with the old system.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Only 3 draws in VFL/AFL history and they changed the rules in 2016 after 2 Victorian teams drew in 2010

Had Embley got pinged for HTB in the last minutes of 2006 Grand Final four years earlier, Sydney would've had a free and the opportunity to kick a score to tie the match. Both teams would've been forced to return for a full replay the following week featuring non-Victorian teams. Rules could've been changed back then.

I recall there was considerable call for change after 2006. Particularly because of the number of injuries, there were a lot of players who wouldn’t have fronted up for a replay, incl a few superstars.

 

[Aramis]

Port were in front by 4. So a result was confirmed either way.

What would be interesting is if the margin was 1 point whether the siren would go, and what would've happened if Shuey missed and tied the game.

I think the Shuey point would have been considered the last act of regulation time given he marked it in that regulation time... Yes we are over 5 minutes. Then from the kick out its golden point. Lol can just imagine the scenes if someone ran through the point posts to kick it out.... haha

 

[legend166]

I think golden point is fine after extra time. Don't see why it would need to be golden goal - there's been plenty of instances where sides have lost despite kicking more goals than the opposition. A behind is still a legitimate scoring shot.

Just starting it straight away at the end of extra time without any indicator is weird though. Why not just have a centre bounce?

 

[Final Siren]

Because behinds are reward for failure, lol

The only reason West Coast are in a Grand Final right now is because they kicked 10.19 to Carlton's 10.9 in Round 5, and 9.8 to 9.4 against Port in Round 21.

Behinds matter!

 

[D-N-R]

I don't have a problem with the next score deciding the result, but I do think there should be an end to the second period of ET before this happens. Having the clock run down without players or fans knowing it has seems odd.

 

[iluvparis]

I don't have a problem with the next score deciding the result, but I do think there should be an end to the second period of ET before this happens. Having the clock run down without players or fans knowing it has seems odd.

As Taylor said - how the fk are the players 'not going to know' the runners/bench will be screaming how long there is to go before next score wins for the entire 2nd ET period.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I'm sure Collingwood supporters loved the replay back in 2010, Saints supporters not so much, it was a massive anti-climax after the epic GF the week before.

Much better that the GF is decided on the day and not a week later but it should be extra time or golden goal rather than golden point for a drawn game.

Collingwood supporters remember a lost replay in 1977 so have seen it from both sides. Winning in 2010 isnt the reason I prefer a replay. I just prefer a replay.

If you cant win in regular time then why should you have the benefit of extra time? I can understand why it was brought in for other finals (it affects other teams) but I would have preferred it to be kept for the GF. Anyway its decided now and thats that.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Only 3 draws in VFL/AFL history and they changed the rules in 2016 after 2 Victorian teams drew in 2010

Had Embley got pinged for HTB in the last minutes of 2006 Grand Final four years earlier, Sydney would've had a free and the opportunity to kick a score to tie the match. Both teams would've been forced to return for a full replay the following week featuring non-Victorian teams. Rules could've been changed back then.

Woulda coulda shoulda

 

[Starburns_]

I think the Shuey point would have been considered the last act of regulation time given he marked it in that regulation time... Yes we are over 5 minutes. Then from the kick out it golden point. Lol can just imagine the scenes if someone ran through the point posts to kick it out.... haha

But if the siren doesn't go, then what is to stop Shuey passing it off in 'dead' time? Or if the shot is from outside 50, the siren would need to go to prevent a player offensively rushing a behind to secure a tie on a kick that didn't make the distance.

I imagine the only solution is that the siren only doesn't go if scores are tied when time expires. If one team is in front, regardless of set shot for goal, you have to blow the siren.

 

[Aramis]

But if the siren doesn't go, then what is to stop Shuey passing it off in 'dead' time? Or if the shot is from outside 50, the siren would need to go to prevent a player offensively rushing a behind to secure a tie on a kick that didn't make the distance.

I imagine the only solution is that the siren only doesn't go if scores are tied when time expires. If one team is in front, regardless of set shot for goal, you have to blow the siren.

In the case above with Shuey having a kick after regulation time... Siren must go. He has a chance after the siren to win or tie the game. He ties... Players kick out and its now golden point. The important distinction is that his kick as was his mark are both part of regulation time.

Siren must go as you say, guarantee if this scenario ever unfolds... it wont. lol.

 

[HTT]

Only 3 draws in VFL/AFL history and they changed the rules in 2016 after 2 Victorian teams drew in 2010

Had Embley got pinged for HTB in the last minutes of 2006 Grand Final four years earlier, Sydney would've had a free and the opportunity to kick a score to tie the match. Both teams would've been forced to return for a full replay the following week featuring non-Victorian teams. Rules could've been changed back then.

Yeah damn AFL, could've changed it in 1948 or 1977 but didn't because those games didn't affect Victorian teams

 

[HTT]

What happens next season when runners banned except after goals?

I doubt you'd rush a behind if there's 5min gone anyway.

 

[radiojake]

They shouldn't of changed the rules full stop there was nothing wrong with the old system.

yeah so just like in 1990 West Coast would have to come back and play Collingwood a second week in a row in Melbourne?

atleast these days they wouldn't then have to follow up by playing what should have been a 'home' final against the Dees in Melbourne (Adelaide had to do the same in 2002 as well)

Collingwood still haven't won a September flag for what, over 50 years?

 

[Starburns_]

In the case above with Shuey having a kick after regulation time... Siren must go. He has a chance after the siren to win or tie the game. He ties... Players kick out and its now golden point. The important distinction is that his kick as was his mark are both part of regulation time.

Siren must go as you say, guarantee if this scenario ever unfolds... it wont. lol.

Agreed, though reckon it's a bit harsh for a kick-out if the siren has gone, should surely be a 're-start' of extra time from the middle.

As you said, it's unlikely to happen, but would be interesting to how the AFL would handle such a scenario.

 

[revo333]

I like the rule, such desperation.

I'm a fan of it as well.

Also a very easy solution to getting rid of the draw in general.

 

[Billy ray]

Is anyone really surprised the AFL have implemented something without thinking through the possibilities and consequences? Anyone?

 

[Stopher]

An extra 5 minute period or two after the initial 5 minutes each way would be better if scores are still tied. It's not like they have to back up for another game the following week.

 

[caloschwaby]

It's so simple. Just repeat 5 mins extra time periods until somebody wins. It is substantially unlikely for nobody to break even in 10+ minutes of football...