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Great post Ben 09. A bit of suggestions going around is that the ring is Cobbs totem and the spinning top is perhaps his wife's which he stole from her which also puts another spin on the ending. Cobb reacts angrily to Juno girl when she shows him her totem and warns her never to show anybody it. I thought the windmill was a another totem and my guess is Saito.
 
The ring as a totem doesn't hold much weight imo. Am I the only one that was thinking of Modern Warfare 2 a few times in this movie? There was a sub base that looked almost identical to one in MW2. The whole snow scene was very similiar also.
 
I don't understand people complaining about "too much action", as far as I can I understand the action involves the gunmen (subconscious mind) coming after cobb and co, therefore the action has to happen for the concept to make sense? I can understand frustrations with the snow scene it carried on a little bit, however the action sequences that involved the train in the city and the fight scene in the hotel were simply superb.
 

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AndyLesPaul said:
Might shit all over Avatar, but that isn't that hard.

The Matrix is something Inception should be compared to.

The Matrix is better.
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Thats what I kept thinking about. And like with the Matrix, whilst th effects were fantastic, found the movie nothing more than average, overhyped even. I certainly would not bother to watch it again. And yes, I kept up with what was going on, and concentrated fully. Just a movie for me.
 
The problem with most sci-fi movies is the makers either spend way too much time on the visuals and the story suffers or they move the story on well in lieu of the pretty colours and effects.

It is a rare film that does both brilliantly. Inception is right at the top visually and almost there with the story. Just a few minor things that could have been better to make it perfect.
 
ben_09 said:
I don't understand people complaining about "too much action", as far as I can I understand the action involves the gunmen (subconscious mind) coming after cobb and co, therefore the action has to happen for the concept to make sense? I can understand frustrations with the snow scene it carried on a little bit, however the action sequences that involved the train in the city and the fight scene in the hotel were simply superb.
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My only problems with some of the action scenes is , in such a wonderfully innovative and clever film , we get shootout scenes and outcomes that is straight from 'action film 101'. It just took away a little at times , inbetween some of the brilliance that was going on around it and often during it.
 
Loved the movie. You have to realise that movies like this tread the fine line of being too clever for their own good, whilst also trying to deliver enough action sequences to keep the interest of lets say the less intellectual cinema goer.

Though Dicaprio and JGL were fantastic. However was anyone else slightly weirded out by the fact that Ellen Page looks about 12 years old. I think she is actually 23.
 
smoovy said:
Loved the movie. You have to realise that movies like this tread the fine line of being too clever for their own good, whilst also trying to deliver enough action sequences to keep the interest of lets say the less intellectual cinema goer.

Though Dicaprio and JGL were fantastic. However was anyone else slightly weirded out by the fact that Ellen Page looks about 12 years old. I think she is actually 23.
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Thats a little offensive. I did not love the movie, but I certainly understood it. Please don't ussume that all who don't love it, are "less intellectual". It's more about taste.
 
Big Blow Hard said:
Thats a little offensive. I did not love the movie, but I certainly understood it. Please don't ussume that all who don't love it, are "less intellectual". It's more about taste.
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Whether you love or hate the movie has nothing to do with whether you are intellectual or not. You missed my point. In fact you can argue that the more 'intellectual' viewers would attempt to pick the movie apart more.

My point was that the movie must be commercially acceptable (if thats what the studio wants) and therefore appeal to your stereotypical 16 yo male teen who has all Fast and Furious movies 5 times over.
 
Anybody who didn't enjoy this movie is either expecting too much from a Hollywood blockbuster or they're just trying to be cool by bucking the trend.

It's an action movie, and it keeps you riveted and on the edge of your seat for the full 2.5hrs, so it is therefore a sterling success. For an action movie, the plot is unusually innovative, the acting unusually superb, and the depth and complexity is surprising which makes it quite multilayered for a movie of its type.

If you're complaining that there was too many gunfights, or not enough character development, or the mind**** was not sufficiently twisty, or the sci-fi plot was not sufficiently clever or complex, then you are simply asking for it to be a movie that it wasn't. It's like complaining that My Dinner With Andre doesn't have enough action and giving it a 5/10.
 
Just saw it and thought it was pretty good.

**** DiCaprio is a good actor, infact the whole cast were.

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-->Just at the end though as his symbol is spinning, the movie ends before the thing stops spinning. He was back in the real world yeah? :confused:<--
 
Caesar said:
Anybody who didn't enjoy this movie is either expecting too much from a Hollywood blockbuster or they're just trying to be cool by bucking the trend.
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The first half of the film ruined it for me otherwise i would of been more impressed. Usually i love these types of movies but i thought a lot of the training scenes and recruiting the Juno girl to join them was corny and a lot of the lines between them didnt gel well. The fact they spent $100 million on marketing alone for this film, suggests that they wanted people to believe it was a brilliant film before they watched it, and it seem most people fell into that trap. Its no 10/10 as some people are claiming.
 

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Loved it, mind was asking questions throughout the whole movie that I couldn't answer fast enough before another would pop into my head.

A couple here.

Why, when they knew the snow level was going to be full of bad guys did they not wear (dream up wearing) body armour? I get it for the first level becuase they had no idea that they would be going in hot, against all these military blokes.

Why, when they were getting pummelled from all directions from these military guys did the people who's dream it was project some people to help them, their own small army? Can they do this? I know changing stuff makes people more suspicious of you but I think shooting at you is just about as suspicious as you can get. Maybe not projecting people as that is controlled by the subconcious but dreaming up something that would be more advantageous in helping getting rid of these blokes. As the Irish bloke does when he dreams up the AGL instead of the rifle.

The first two are pretty irrelevent and its probably just me because I'm in the army. But this one I'm not sure about

This harvested type dreaming, with the machine, is it common practice and is known about by everyone?
 
darcytiger said:
Loved it, mind was asking questions throughout the whole movie that I couldn't answer fast enough before another would pop into my head.

A couple here.

Why, when they knew the snow level was going to be full of bad guys did they not wear (dream up wearing) body armour? I get it for the first level becuase they had no idea that they would be going in hot, against all these military blokes.

Why, when they were getting pummelled from all directions from these military guys did the people who's dream it was project some people to help them, their own small army? Can they do this? I know changing stuff makes people more suspicious of you but I think shooting at you is just about as suspicious as you can get. Maybe not projecting people as that is controlled by the subconcious but dreaming up something that would be more advantageous in helping getting rid of these blokes. As the Irish bloke does when he dreams up the AGL instead of the rifle.

The first two are pretty irrelevent and its probably just me because I'm in the army. But this one I'm not sure about

This harvested type dreaming, with the machine, is it common practice and is known about by everyone?
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They designed all the levels before they went into the dream. they didnt know he had been taught to have defenses in his dream. so they didnt know they would be up against soldiers in any level.
 
For me the biggest plot hole was the premise that a single company, under the ultimate control of a single individual, could become the world's monopoly energy provider. The US has anti-competition/monopoly laws that are exercised when companies get too big or when they represent conflicting interests. That's within the US only. And one person would not be able to break up such a large company without approval from others.
 
stantonLEGEND said:
Just saw it and thought it was pretty good.

**** DiCaprio is a good actor, infact the whole cast were.

Highlight to reveal.

-->Just at the end though as his symbol is spinning, the movie ends before the thing stops spinning. He was back in the real world yeah? :confused:<--
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-->I think it all depends on how you interpret the film i think to weather the spin top falls or keeps spinning. I presumed it keeps spinning and DiCaprios character was put in dream state when we went to the underground room with all the beds and people dreaming at the 'chemist' building (near beginning of film). I think this because when he supposedly comes 'out' of his dream he goes to spin that thing in the bathroom but is distracted by the asain guy and knocks it over himself. Therefore the movie then continues with its inception plot but at the end everyone is pulled back out of dreams except dicaprio (who is unaware when he wakes on plane he is still in a dream). The other characters did this so dicaprios character could finally go home (back to the US) :[/QUOTE]

any1 else think along the same lines?

My question is. considering so much effort was put in to describing what the hell was goin on there was 0 explanation of how the button in the briefcase just magically put everyone into the same dream.
 

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saw it last night and agree it was a good movie and only time will tell if it turns out to be a classic movie (blade runner was never considered a classic upon its release but is revered now) and as others have said Joseph Gordon-Levitt completely owned this movie and even out-acted Leo so hopefully a best supporting nomination at oscar time could be on the cards and how good was Hans Zimmer score throughout the movie.. it was so retro sounding that it could have come out of any sci-fi films released during the 80's :thumbsu:
 
HarryTiger said:
For me the biggest plot hole was the premise that a single company, under the ultimate control of a single individual, could become the world's monopoly energy provider. The US has anti-competition/monopoly laws that are exercised when companies get too big or when they represent conflicting interests. That's within the US only. And one person would not be able to break up such a large company without approval from others.
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Safe to say that is no fantasy movie spoiler.
 
Good movie but certainly no 9 or 10 out of 10 IMO.

It had many great aspects but I found the underlying reason why they wanted to go in and plant an idea quite lame. Yeah, yeah I know obviously Cobb had his reasons but I reckon they could have thought of something better than trying to stop a super energy provider from forming.
 
Warwick said:
Good movie but certainly no 9 or 10 out of 10 IMO.

It had many great aspects but I found the underlying reason why they wanted to go in and plant an idea quite lame. Yeah, yeah I know obviously Cobb had his reasons but I reckon they could have thought of something better than trying to stop a super energy provider from forming.
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I think that was a bit of a commentary on the Murdoch family only they didn't want to be blatantly obvious and make them Australian and Media Moguls so made them Energy Moguls instead.
 
Big, loud, empty nonsense.

Bloke with Tourette's sitting in the aisle seat was much more entertaining...
 
stantonLEGEND said:
Just saw it and thought it was pretty good.

**** DiCaprio is a good actor, infact the whole cast were.

Highlight to reveal.

-->Just at the end though as his symbol is spinning, the movie ends before the thing stops spinning. He was back in the real world yeah? :confused:<--
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It's open to interpretation, but imo, it would have dropped as it did wobble a bit, which it didn't do when he planted the totem in Mal's safe.

There was also the 'ring' theory which seems to line up about when he was dreaming or in reality.

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Gree
Great movie. Great story (something different for me), great cast and acting and superb visual effects and muscial score.

9/10 for me!
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