Prediction Individual player predictions for 2016

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Pannalstaroz

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With so many threads about so many topics, I thought I'd pen my thoughts on each individual player and my expectation for them this season.

1. Matthew Suckling
Has come across with not so much as a boom, but a small ripple. A prodigious kick but prone to skill errors, I want to see him used as an offensive weapon.
2015: B
2016: B

2. Robert Murphy

An obviously fantastic year last year. For us to be a serious player he needs to play 20 of 22 because we don't have someone who can do what he does as well as he does yet.
2015: A
2016: B

3. Mitch Wallis

If last year was his litmus test, this year will yet again offer opportunities and problems for him, as he'll go head to head with Libba to play the role they both want to play. I don't think you can have too many players who genuinely give you first use, so I'm bullish, as I've always been, that he'll go well again.
2015: B
2016: B

4. Marcus Bontempelli

Whilst I've been assured his limited training won't affect his performance this year, I struggle to believe it - but will take others on trust. He was fantastic last year, attracting the tag more often than not. He seems to have maturity beyond his years and handles everything with aplomb. A future captain and potential superstar. I expect his attitude to make up for any physical deficiencies he encounters.
2015: A
2016: A

5. Matthew Boyd

My knocks on him this time last year were well highlighted by many, but I accepted early on that he had found a role he utterly dominated in and I sang his praises for the year. As professional as they come and I expect if we finish in the 8, he's played at last 18 games and performed at the top of his game. The kids can't be expected to play as well as him yet. If he flatlines we may struggle to make the 8 IMO.
2015: A
2016: A

6. Luke Dahlhaus

He continues to get better and better. Other than his appal.... inconsistent foot skills, he is the complete footballer. He's a determined little bugger and is a fantastic chance of going into the AA squad this year.
2015: B
2016: A

7. Lachie Hunter

After an indifferent start to the season, with scandals and attitudinal issues, he turned himself around towards the end of the season to project a future 150 gamer and quality player.
2015: C
2016: B

8. Stewart Crameri

Poor bugger

9. Jake Stringer
This time last year I said that he could be anything he wanted to be, and there's no doubt the penny dropped. The frightening thing for the rest of the competition is how much upside this boy has got, from strength to speed and general match awareness. He could be the GOAT if he wants to be. Hasn't missed a beat all preseason and I have big expectations for him.
2015: A
2016: A

10. Easton Wood

It would be easy to sit back and say last year was an anomaly for this boy, and if he was older I would agree, but he is still young and still learning and I think he has enormous upside still. You literally couldn't play his position any better than he did last year. I'm only hoping he can maintain an A grade rating and I expect him to have a fantastic season. Like Murph, we don't have another logical replacement for him who can step in and play to his levels right away.
2015: A
2016: A

11. Jackson Macrae

Our accumulator who didn't enjoy the spotlight quite so brightly last year but a player who will continue to be vitally important moving forward. He runs hard to create space and he delivers the ball with accuracy and speed all the time. He needs to work on his defensive running and his kicking over a longer distance, but you cannot have enough people who can pick up the ball 30 times a game.
2015: B
2016: A

12. Zaine Cordy

I'm on record as saying I love this kid because I love his aggression and I love his willingness to take on the game. Another year of strengthening and development and I hope we see something closer to the finished product in 2018.
2015: D
2016: D

13. Nathan Hrovat

I might be in the minority but I'm glad we kept him on the list. I like his decision-making and I like his calmness under pressure. Yes, he doesn't have a lot of speed and yes he doesn't have a lot of elite traits but he is a good "company man" and I think that the club is better for having him. No doubt it is an important year for him, though.
2015: D
2016: C

14. Clay Smith

I just type he has a clean run at it and doesn't hurt himself again

15. Tom Campbell
I always liked the way this boy projected but I have been very disappointed with the progress he has made, or not made, over the last two years. I suspect that this year will be a very important year in the life of Tom Campbell.
2015: D
2016: D

16. Toby McLean

On what we have seen, this boy could be anything, but equally he could be nothing. He burst onto the scene and he has a enormous athletic upside, but we need to see him do it for a full season. He's fighting for the most hotly contested position in our club and I hope that what we saw last year can be replicated this year and a cements a spot in our best 22.
2015: D
2016: C

17. Tom Boyd

Oh Lord, give me strength. I wasn't as disappointed as somewhere in his performances last year. Having come off a very limited pre season he showed that he does have elite traits and he does have a skill set that this club desperately needs. Not only that, but he has a pay packet that dictates that he must be successful. Whilst I expect him to make progress this year, I still think he is two years away. But I hope he performs well enough to that the naysayers STFU.
2015: C
2016: B

18. Fletcher Roberts

I'm not quite sure what to make of Fletcher. He strikes me as a third defender not a first or second defender. Hopefully the introduction of Adams And (possibly) Collins will allow him to play the role he wants to play. He may also be able to drift forward.
2015: C
2016: C

19. Lukas Webb

I love this kid. He's as pure a kick of the football as we have and I love his toughness and his decision-making. He is also a leader and a natural replacement for Matthew Boyd when he retires. How much game time he gets this year will come down to his development but I have high hopes for this kid.
2015: D
2016: C

20. Josh Dunkley

Having not been down to training I can only go on what others tell me. He comes to us as a leader of men and a tough as teak footballer who takes people along for the ride with him. Given what we saw last year I expect him to play around 10 games.

21. Tom Liberatore
This is a really tough one. Everything tells us that he's come back bigger and better than ever, but I am always skeptical of people coming back for a major reconstruction. If he can come back and play to a B standard, I will be rapt. Anything more than that will be a major bonus. I'm expecting a bonus!
2015: N/A
2016: A

22. Mitch Honeychurch

Like McLean, he's fighting for a hotly contested position in the team. He has the grunt and the aggression to be an important part of the club but his skills and decision-making at time can be poor. My gut tells me that if he plays more than 13 or 14 games we might be in a little bit of trouble. I just don't know what his point of difference is, compared to others on the list.
2015: C
2016: C

23. Jordan Roughead

I've always been a bit of a fan of Jordan. He's gone through a lot for the club and he's never been able to settle into one position. I hope that he'll be able to settle into that ruck position that we all desperately need him to be able to fill. He's the best mark of the football that we have in the team at his height (for around the ground play) so if he is able to make himself the long term ruck, we will be all the better for it.
2015: C
2016: B

24. Shane Biggs

He's never been one of my favourites but I will happily admit that I was harsh on him during the final series last year. His performances were pretty good but my problem with him is that he always takes the easy option and he is now competing with players who are younger than him and who I think are better than him.
2015: C
2016: C

25. Koby Stevens

He is continually lambasted yeah for his performances but his strength and his aggression was sorely missed during the final last year. I really consider him an important part of the team and hopefully if he can stay fit for the year we will be all the better for it.
2015: C
2016: B

26. Declan Hamilton

If he continues to struggle to put on weight I suspect this could be the last year for Declan. As I have mentioned previously the work that he does goes largely unnoticed, which means that in a good side he could be important but he is competing with a lot of other people at a similar hearts in the club for a position.
2015: E
2016: D

27. Will Minson

I I am a fan of Will's. His willingness to work at supporting his teammates and his tap work is very good, however last year his fitness and his ability to cover the ground, by any marker, pathetic. I've been told he's lost weight and he's worked very hard on his running so if that is true that will make a huge difference for both him and us.
2015: C
2016: B

28. Josh Prudden

Not a big fan. He is very vanilla and he is competing for a place with umpteen more talented kids. Nice kick, but slow, so he'll make a terrific suburban footballer.
2015: D
2016: D

29. Tory Dickson

Amazing last year, simply amazing. He is as opportunistic as there is an whilst I think it is hard to predict that he will have as good a year as he did last year I can't see any reason why he can't be a very very good B grade footballer. He is a natural footballer and he is in an age bracket that we don't have many in.
2015: A
2016: B

30. Joel Hamling

From the moment I saw him in Ballarat I thought "we have picked something up here" that we didn't have very much of; a rangy, athletic, quick defender with good hands. With greatest strength and natural improvement I can't say why he can't project up into a really good B grade defender.
2015: C
2016: B

31. Bailey Dale

I've rattled on about this kid ad nauseam. He has a unique skill set in that he is quick, he's tough, he's chronically under developed but he kicks darts and I love kids with talent who kick the ball properly. I always wanted WHE but he's our WHE IMO.
2015: D
2016: C

32. Kieran Collins

Who knows? If he's 10% of what we hope he will be, he will be a 25 year fullback for us and a linchpin of our future success. I'll reserve judgment until I've seen him play live but everything he has physically is exactly what we need. I'll be honest though I just wish he's better than Talia.

33. Marcus Adams
See above

34. Bailey Williams
I literally have no idea but from what I've heard and what I've been told he can at least play the guy which is a really good start. Like the others I will reserve judgement until I have seen him play, but if he can get 8 to 10 games out this year, that will mean that he is a very good footballer.

35. Caleb Daniel
A superstar in the making (I hope). I have enormous faith in him. Things happen when he has the ball, he's well built and runs and runs and runs. I expect him to move into a solid best 22 selection by season's end and prove himself a future 200 gamer.
2015: C
2016: B


38. Dale Morris
As consistent as the day is long he has been a stalwart in the back line for us and hopefully he can continue to pay for another one or two years. We need him to hang on for a little bit longer because it might take a year or two for those young players to come through and play to his level and that is what we need - we can't have a drop off.
2015: B
2016: B

39. Jason Johannisen

I was long a critic of his because he didn't take the game on and use his natural attributes to their best effect. He really turned the corner last year and projects as highly as anyone in our club for improvement. If we can keep him on the park and use his run off the wing or out of the backline, he will be extremely important to our success or otherwise.
2015: B
2016: A

42. Liam Picken

Still my first picked every week because of his consistency, his attitude and his wont to destroy the opposition. He was well rewarded last year for the efforts he put in the years before, and although I don't see improvement in him, if he can maintain a B level we will better.
2015: B
2016: B

43. Jack Redpath

I've waxed lyrically about him all summer. As a 1985 big bodied lead up marking option he is fantastic, as a modern day forward, he lacks mobility. He still projects to have improvement, but he does have a $7 million boy sitting under him, which will, at the very least, keep him on his toes. I'm not in the camp that says that he and Boyd can play in the same forward line, but it would make me very happy to be proven wrong.
2015: C
2016: C

46. Lin Jong

Wow, what a way to finish. As controversial a topic as that has been for the last two weeks here, I still see upside in him. He has physical attributes that stand him apart from others on the list, but clearly he has a lot to learn from a purely footballing way. Even if he is considered a depth player, he has the aggresion and he has the physical attributes which mean that he should be given a longer run at it than others. I'd rather give him 5 years to prove he can't do it, than some of the younger ones 2 years to prove they can.
2015: C
2016: B

Happy to discuss any of this.
 
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I really want Minson to have a ripper year, because I don't want us shopping our first round selection for a ruck like Lobbe...gross

for some reason I think that we'll persist with Hamilton, even if he doesn't break into the best 22 this year & perhaps trial him in another position for one last shot next year

Remember that it is MUCH easier to put on fat than it is to put on muscle
 

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I really want Minson to have a ripper year, because I don't want us shopping our first round selection for a ruck like Lobbe...gross

for some reason I think that we'll persist with Hamilton, even if he doesn't break into the best 22 this year & perhaps trial him in another position for one last shot next year

Remember that it is MUCH easier to put on fat than it is to put on muscle
Oh I'm aware.... :eek::mad:
 
I dislike individual player rankings a lot, but respect your right
to attempt such a difficult task with such a young list. I don't
think young Collins will be a twenty five year full back, but
with the supplements these days who knows.

Note- You should have gone with "The ballad of Jarrad" a
sweeping tale of a skinny white boy and his emotion charged
journey to super stardom. You would have owned it.;)
 
I dislike individual player rankings a lot, but respect your right
to attempt such a difficult task with such a young list. I don't
think young Collins will be a twenty five year full back, but
with the supplements these days who knows.

Note- You should have gone with "The ballad of Jarrad" a
sweeping tale of a skinny white boy and his emotion charged
journey to super stardom. You would have owned it.;)
I've tried to keep the youngsters out of it as much as I could.
Nice work mate. A lot more A's & B's for our smalls than our talls
Ta, took ages. Probably a waste of time lol. I think our smalls are more obviously stars than our talls at the moment. Except for Boyd ;)
 
With so many threads about so many topics, I thought I'd pen my thoughts on each individual player and my expectation for them this season.

1. Matthew Suckling
Has come across with not so much as a boom, but a small ripple. A prodigious kick but prone to skill errors, I want to see him used as an offensive weapon.
2015: B
2016: B

2. Robert Murphy

An obviously fantastic year last year. For us to be a serious player he needs to play 20 of 22 because we don't have someone who can do what he does as well as he does yet.
2015: A
2016: B

3. Mitch Wallis

If last year was his litmus test, this year will yet again offer opportunities and problems for him, as he'll go head to head with Libba to play the role they both want to play. I don't think you can have too many players who genuinely give you first use, so I'm bullish, as I've always been, that he'll go well again.
2015: B
2016: B

4. Marcus Bontempelli

Whilst I've been assured his limited training won't affect his performance this year, I struggle to believe it - but will take others on trust. He was fantastic last year, attracting the tag more often than not. He seems to have maturity beyond his years and handles everything with aplomb. A future captain and potential superstar. I expect his attitude to make up for any physical deficiencies he encounters.
2015: A
2016: A

5. Matthew Boyd

My knocks on him this time last year were well highlighted by many, but I accepted early on that he had found a role he utterly dominated in and I sang his praises for the year. As professional as they come and I expect if we finish in the 8, he's played at last 18 games and performed at the top of his game. The kids can't be expected to play as well as him yet. If he flatlines we may struggle to make the 8 IMO.
2015: A
2016: A

6. Luke Dahlhaus

He continues to get better and better. Other than his appal.... inconsistent foot skills, he is the complete footballer. He's a determined little bugger and is a fantastic chance of going into the AA squad this year.
2015: B
2016: A

7. Lachie Hunter

After an indifferent start to the season, with scandals and attitudinal issues, he turned himself around towards the end of the season to project a future 150 gamer and quality player.
2015: C
2016: B

8. Stewart Crameri

Poor bugger

9. Jake Stringer
This time last year I said that he could be anything he wanted to be, and there's no doubt the penny dropped. The frightening thing for the rest of the competition is how much upside this boy has got, from strength to speed and general match awareness. He could be the GOAT if he wants to be. Hasn't missed a beat all preseason and I have big expectations for him.
2015: A
2016: A

10. Easton Wood

It would be easy to sit back and say last year was an anomaly for this boy, and if he was older I would agree, but he is still young and still learning and I think he has enormous upside still. You literally couldn't play his position any better than he did last year. I'm only hoping he can maintain an A grade rating and I expect him to have a fantastic season. Like Murph, we don't have another logical replacement for him who can step in and play to his levels right away.
2015: A
2016: A

11. Jackson Macrae

Our accumulator who didn't enjoy the spotlight quite so brightly last year but a player who will continue to be vitally important moving forward. He runs hard to create space and he delivers the ball with accuracy and speed all the time. He needs to work on his defensive running and his kicking over a longer distance, but you cannot have enough people who can pick up the ball 30 times a game.
2015: B
2016: A

12. Zaine Cordy

I'm on record as saying I love this kid because I love his aggression and I love his willingness to take on the game. Another year of strengthening and development and I hope we see something closer to the finished product in 2018.
2015: D
2016: D

13. Nathan Hrovat

I might be in the minority but I'm glad we kept him on the list. I like his decision-making and I like his calmness under pressure. Yes, he doesn't have a lot of speed and yes he doesn't have a lot of elite traits but he is a good "company man" and I think that the club is better for having him. No doubt it is an important year for him, though.
2015: D
2016: C

14. Clay Smith

I just type he has a clean run at it and doesn't hurt himself again

15. Tom Campbell
I always liked the way this boy projected but I have been very disappointed with the progress he has made, or not made, over the last two years. I suspect that this year will be a very important year in the life of Tom Campbell.
2015: D
2016: D

16. Toby McLean

On what we have seen, this boy could be anything, but equally he could be nothing. He burst onto the scene and he has a enormous athletic upside, but we need to see him do it for a full season. He's fighting for the most hotly contested position in our club and I hope that what we saw last year can be replicated this year and a cements a spot in our best 22.
2015: D
2016: C

17. Tom Boyd

Oh Lord, give me strength. I wasn't as disappointed as somewhere in his performances last year. Having come off a very limited pre season he showed that he does have elite traits and he does have a skill set that this club desperately needs. Not only that, but he has a pay packet that dictates that he must be successful. Whilst I expect him to make progress this year, I still think he is two years away. But I hope he performs well enough to that the naysayers STFU.
2015: C
2016: B

18. Fletcher Roberts

I'm not quite sure what to make of Fletcher. He strikes me as a third defender not a first or second defender. Hopefully the introduction of Adams And (possibly) Collins will allow him to play the role he wants to play. He may also be able to drift forward.
2015: C
2016: C

19. Lukas Webb

I love this kid. He's as pure a kick of the football as we have and I love his toughness and his decision-making. He is also a leader and a natural replacement for Matthew Boyd when he retires. How much game time he gets this year will come down to his development but I have high hopes for this kid.
2015: D
2016: C

20. Josh Dunkley

Having not been down to training I can only go on what others tell me. He comes to us as a leader of men and a tough as teak footballer who takes people along for the ride with him. Given what we saw last year I expect him to play around 10 games.

21. Tom Liberatore
This is a really tough one. Everything tells us that he's come back bigger and better than ever, but I am always skeptical of people coming back for a major reconstruction. If he can come back and play to a B standard, I will be rapt. Anything more than that will be a major bonus. I'm expecting a bonus!
2015: N/A
2016: A

22. Mitch Honeychurch

Like McLean, he's fighting for a hotly contested position in the team. He has the grunt and the aggression to be an important part of the club but his skills and decision-making at time can be poor. My gut tells me that if he plays more than 13 or 14 games we might be in a little bit of trouble. I just don't know what his point of difference is, compared to others on the list.
2015: C
2016: C

23. Jordan Roughead

I've always been a bit of a fan of Jordan. He's gone through a lot for the club and he's never been able to settle into one position. I hope that he'll be able to settle into that ruck position that we all desperately need him to be able to fill. He's the best mark of the football that we have in the team at his height (for around the ground play) so if he is able to make himself the long term ruck, we will be all the better for it.
2015: C
2016: B

24. Shane Biggs

He's never been one of my favourites but I will happily admit that I was harsh on him during the final series last year. His performances were pretty good but my problem with him is that he always takes the easy option and he is now competing with players who are younger than him and who I think are better than him.
2015: C
2016: C

25. Koby Stevens

He is continually lambasted yeah for his performances but his strength and his aggression was sorely missed during the final last year. I really consider him an important part of the team and hopefully if he can stay fit for the year we will be all the better for it.
2015: C
2016: B

26. Declan Hamilton

If he continues to struggle to put on weight I suspect this could be the last year for Declan. As I have mentioned previously the work that he does goes largely unnoticed, which means that in a good side he could be important but he is competing with a lot of other people at a similar hearts in the club for a position.
2015: E
2016: D

27. Will Minson

I I am a fan of Will's. His willingness to work at supporting his teammates and his tap work is very good, however last year his fitness and his ability to cover the ground, by any marker, pathetic. I've been told he's lost weight and he's worked very hard on his running so if that is true that will make a huge difference for both him and us.
2015: C
2016: B

28. Josh Prudden

Not a big fan. He is very vanilla and he is competing for a place with umpteen more talented kids. Nice kick, but slow, so he'll make a terrific suburban footballer.
2015: D
2016: D

29. Tory Dickson

Amazing last year, simply amazing. He is as opportunistic as there is an whilst I think it is hard to predict that he will have as good a year as he did last year I can't see any reason why he can't be a very very good B grade footballer. He is a natural footballer and he is in an age bracket that we don't have many in.
2015: A
2016: B

30. Joel Hamling

From the moment I saw him in Ballarat I thought "we have picked something up here" that we didn't have very much of; a rangy, athletic, quick defender with good hands. With greatest strength and natural improvement I can't say why he can't project up into a really good B grade defender.
2015: C
2016: B

31. Bailey Dale

I've rattled on about this kid ad nauseam. He has a unique skill set in that he is quick, he's tough, he's chronically under developed but he kicks darts and I love kids with talent who kick the ball properly. I always wanted WHE but he's our WHE IMO.
2015: D
2016: C

32. Kieran Collins

Who knows? If he's 10% of what we hope he will be, he will be a 25 year fullback for us and a linchpin of our future success. I'll reserve judgment until I've seen him play live but everything he has physically is exactly what we need. I'll be honest though I just wish he's better than Talia.

33. Marcus Adams
See above

34. Bailey Williams
I literally have no idea but from what I've heard and what I've been told he can at least play the guy which is a really good start. Like the others I will reserve judgement until I have seen him play, but if he can get 8 to 10 games out this year, that will mean that he is a very good footballer.

35. Caleb Daniel
A superstar in the making (I hope). I have enormous faith in him. Things happen when he has the ball, he's well built and runs and runs and runs. I expect him to move into a solid best 22 selection by season's end and prove himself a future 200 gamer.
2015: C
2016: B


38. Dale Morris
As consistent as the day is long he has been a stalwart in the back line for us and hopefully he can continue to pay for another one or two years. We need him to hang on for a little bit longer because it might take a year or two for those young players to come through and play to his level and that is what we need - we can't have a drop off.
2015: B
2016: B

39. Jason Johannisen

I was long a critic of his because he didn't take the game on and use his natural attributes to their best effect. He really turned the corner last year and projects as highly as anyone in our club for improvement. If we can keep him on the park and use his run off the wing or out of the backline, he will be extremely important to our success or otherwise.
2015: B
2016: A

42. Liam Picken

Still my first picked every week because of his consistency, his attitude and his wont to destroy the opposition. He was well rewarded last year for the efforts he put in the years before, and although I don't see improvement in him, if he can maintain a B level we will better.
2015: B
2016: B

43. Jack Redpath

I've waxed lyrically about him all summer. As a 1985 big bodied lead up marking option he is fantastic, as a modern day forward, he lacks mobility. He still projects to have improvement, but he does have a $7 million boy sitting under him, which will, at the very least, keep him on his toes. I'm not in the camp that says that he and Boyd can play in the same forward line, but it would make me very happy to be proven wrong.
2015: C
2016: C

46. Lin Jong

Wow, what a way to finish. As controversial a topic as that has been for the last two weeks here, I still see upside in him. He has physical attributes that stand him apart from others on the list, but clearly he has a lot to learn from a purely footballing way. Even if he is considered a depth player, he has the aggresion and he has the physical attributes which mean that he should be given a longer run at it than others. I'd rather give him 5 years to prove he can't do it, than some of the younger ones 2 years to prove they can.
2015: C
2016: B

Happy to discuss any of this.
Suspect Toby may jump even more, and Tom Campbell looks primed to take the next step. The rest is pretty bang on i'd suggest, good summary Pann.
 
Nice summary mate.

Very much agree with your assessments of Suckling, Hrovat, Biggs, Dale and Daniel.

Not so sure about your take on Campbell, McLean, Roberts and Honeychurch.

I think we need to get away from this idea that 'if player x plays y games, we're in trouble'. We aren't carrying players like Veszpremi, Barlow, Tutt (perhaps unfair), Jones, Pearce, Sherman etc anymore.
 
Nice summary mate.

Very much agree with your assessments of Suckling, Hrovat, Biggs, Dale and Daniel.

Not so sure about your take on Campbell, McLean, Roberts and Honeychurch.

I think we need to get away from this idea that 'if player x plays y games, we're in trouble'. We aren't carrying players like Veszpremi, Barlow, Tutt (perhaps unfair), Jones, Pearce, Sherman etc anymore.
I accept that, but we don't, at this stage, have ready made replacements for M Boyd, Murphy or Wood and we'd struggle to cover Morris. That doesn't mean we don't have people to physically play the position, but no to the level those guys performed last year and our "improvement" this year, driven by the youth in the club, will still be dictated by the output of the older brigade IMO.
 

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The D for Prudden was understandable , but the write up was harsh.
Suburban footballer ? He is better than that.
He at least has played some very good footy at VFL level.
I agree he has quite a few in front of him.
 
The D for Prudden was understandable , but the write up was harsh.
Suburban footballer ? He is better than that.
He at least has played some very good footy at VFL level.
I agree he has quite a few in front of him.
My point was that the lack of speed he has, but the good skills, will mean that once his AFL/VFL days are over, I think he would make a very good suburban footballer. But IMO he's not an afl standard player. Just my opinion.
 
My point was that the lack of speed he has, but the good skills, will mean that once his AFL/VFL days are over, I think he would make a very good suburban footballer. But IMO he's not an afl standard player. Just my opinion.
boooo
but acceptable
 
In terms of improvement, these are players who I think will have a better year in 2016 (in comparison to 2015):

Lin Jong, Jason Johannison, Lukas Webb, Lachie Hunter & Tom Boyd.

If these players can give us the same or similar output this year, we will be hard to beat:

Bob Murphy, Mitch Wallis, Tory Dickson, Luke Dahlhaus.

Still not quite sure if we will see massive improvement from Stringer & Bont. Very happy with both in 2015, but we keep hearing about their ceiling.
 
Bailey Dale is gonna go friggen nuts this year, he will take the competition by storm.

I don't see it. He's still a kid in a man's game. I was surprised Bev persisted with him at times last season, purely because of how under-developed he was.

I also don't see what separates him to other similar-build players like Hrovat, Hunter, Honeychurch and the like.

But (nearly) everybody seems keen on him.
 
I don't see it. He's still a kid in a man's game. I was surprised Bev persisted with him at times last season, purely because of how under-developed he was.

I also don't see what separates him to other similar-build players like Hrovat, Hunter, Honeychurch and the like.

But (nearly) everybody seems keen on him.
Surprisingly he actually seems to have been one of the biggest gainers over the off season.
 
I hope JJ takes the next step in his development and becomes border line AA

Sucking said JJ is the player he's been most impressed by in training, really looking forward to him becoming an even better player. Really missed him against Adelaide, looking forward to him making those 70m sprints off halfback at Etihad :)
 
My point was that the lack of speed he has, but the good skills, will mean that once his AFL/VFL days are over, I think he would make a very good suburban footballer. But IMO he's not an afl standard player. Just my opinion.

Fair enough Panna , I want to see him have a good run injury wise this year before I'm prepared to write him off.
There have been a lot of slow players with great skiills make a career out of AFL footy.
On paper anyway , there a lot of young boys in front of him no doubt !
 
I don't see it. He's still a kid in a man's game. I was surprised Bev persisted with him at times last season, purely because of how under-developed he was.

I also don't see what separates him to other similar-build players like Hrovat, Hunter, Honeychurch and the like.

But (nearly) everybody seems keen on him.

For me it's about his mentality. He's got everything right between the ears - competitive, courageous, confident. Then his natural skillset which Panna alluded to. As his body catches up he is going to become a weapon.
 
Disagree on McLeans ranking, should be C. His impact is higher than D. The champion data stats rate him higher per game than almost any other first year player. Players 20 games at that level and is a solid B. Any higher and is boarder line A.
Other rankings are good.
If Boyd gets to B grade and we have no significant injuries, we are top 4. IF he breaks out like he really could, could be an elite tall that requires double teaming and we are in the mix for the flag.
 
Fair effort, agree with a lot, personally I think Murphy is more likely to retain his A rating than Boyd though.

I don't think Biggs takes the easy option either, I think at times he tries too much but has clearly been given licence by the coaching staff to break the game open. Darley was the guy who always took the safe option and it led to his delisting.

Glad you rated JJ highly - I think he's going to be important for us this year.
 

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