Analysis Inexperience watch

Dlions

Norm Smith Medallist
Aug 12, 2016
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I agree, maybe Longmire will take over from him at North after he decides that a change is the best thing for Sydney.
 

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Gibbo_88

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Jan 19, 2009
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14 players with over 100 games experience?

If North don’t play finals then Scott is gone.
Interesting to see that we're not that far off that for next season. Assuming Hodge retires & Martin goes around for 1 more year & Lyons, Mcstay, Gardiner & Cameron play all of this year, we should have 13 players over 100 games experience.
 

Tom14

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Oct 13, 2015
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Interesting to see that we're not that far off that for next season. Assuming Hodge retires & Martin goes around for 1 more year & Lyons, Mcstay, Gardiner & Cameron play all of this year, we should have 13 players over 100 games experience.
Barring injury Harris will get there next year too (hard to believe he has played less than 100 games!).
 

Tom14

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14 players with over 100 games experience?

If North don’t play finals then Scott is gone.
Predictions they would struggle last year and needed to undergo a list renewal weren't really wrong imo. They had one of the most experienced 22s the last 2 years and barely avoided the spoon in 17 before landing a softer draw last year. They were reasonably lucky with injuries too.

It's hard to see them making a serious run this year, and as you say if they don't it is probably time to move on from Brad as he has been there for a decade.
 

Jivlain

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Sep 19, 2015
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Code:
Average Attributes
NM          Attribute   Brisbane
189.1cm     Height      188.5cm
88.4kg      Weight      88.2kg
26yr 1mth   Age         25yr 1mth
110.9       Games       94.5

Total Players By Games
NM  Games           Brisbane
5   Less than 50    8 
3   50 to 99        7
8   100 to 149      2
6   150 or more     5
From https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/afl_team_selections#9736
To add in the standard format:
  • (0 to 10 games - North Melbourne 3 vs. Brisbane 0)
  • 0 to 24 games - North Melbourne 3 vs. Brisbane 3
  • 25 to 49 games - North Melbourne 2 vs. Brisbane 5
  • 50 to 99 games - North Melbourne 3 vs. Brisbane 7
  • 100 to 199 games - North Melbourne 11 vs. Brisbane 6
  • 200+ games - North Melbourne 3 vs. Brisbane 1
Extra stats:
  • Average games played - North Melbourne 109.9 vs. Brisbane 93.5 (= +16.4 games on average)
  • Average age - North Melbourne 26 vs. Brisbane 25.4 (= +0.6 years on average)
  • Average height - North Melbourne 189.2cm vs. Brisbane 188.6cm (= +0.6cm on average)
  • Average weight - North Melbourne 88.3kg vs. Brisbane 89.5kg (= -1.2kg on average)
 

a mayes ing

Norm Smith Medallist
Dec 1, 2013
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More experienxed than us and at home so realistically they should beat us but hopefully our good form and their suspect form means we beat them and beat them convincingly.
 

Jivlain

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With late change:
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  • (0 to 10 games - North Melbourne 4 vs. Brisbane 0)
  • 0 to 24 games - North Melbourne 4 vs. Brisbane 3
  • 25 to 49 games - North Melbourne 2 vs. Brisbane 5
  • 50 to 99 games - North Melbourne 2 vs. Brisbane 7
  • 100 to 199 games - North Melbourne 11 vs. Brisbane 6
  • 200+ games - North Melbourne 3 vs. Brisbane 1
Extra stats:
  • Average games played - North Melbourne 107 vs. Brisbane 93.5 (= +13.5 games on average)
  • Average age - North Melbourne 25.8 vs. Brisbane 25.5 (= +0.3 years on average)
  • Average height - North Melbourne 189.3cm vs. Brisbane 188.6cm (= +0.7cm on average)
  • Average weight - North Melbourne 87.7kg vs. Brisbane 89.5kg (= -1.8kg on average)
 

Jivlain

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  • (0 to 10 games - Brisbane 0 vs. Port Adelaide 4)
  • 0 to 24 games - Brisbane 3 vs. Port Adelaide 4
  • 25 to 49 games - Brisbane 5 vs. Port Adelaide 5
  • 50 to 99 games - Brisbane 7 vs. Port Adelaide 4
  • 100 to 199 games - Brisbane 6 vs. Port Adelaide 4
  • 200+ games - Brisbane 1 vs. Port Adelaide 5
Extra stats:
  • Average games played - Brisbane 94.5 vs. Port Adelaide 100.9 (= -6.4 games on average)
  • Average age - Brisbane 25.5 vs. Port Adelaide 25 (= +0.5 years on average)
  • Average height - Brisbane 188.6cm vs. Port Adelaide 188.2cm (= +0.4cm on average)
  • Average weight - Brisbane 89.5kg vs. Port Adelaide 84.6kg (= +4.9kg on average)
Also I just got around to importing last year's Brownlow count so now that's accurate.
 

chopperduck

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Pretty close again. Port a few extra young ones but a few extra very experienced ones. We will need a good solid team performance to get over the line. Need some good defensive running to not let them use the ball at will on the outside and we need to take our chances when we get them. Sooner or later we will drop a game because we have a bad start or dont convert.
 

KissKiss

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Nov 26, 2012
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Wow someone has higher 1% average than Harris!!!!!!

Also lines up pretty even across the board on most measures. Being at home should give us the edge
 

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Jivlain

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  • (0 to 10 games - Essendon 2 vs. Brisbane 0)
  • 0 to 24 games - Essendon 2 vs. Brisbane 1
  • 25 to 49 games - Essendon 1 vs. Brisbane 6
  • 50 to 99 games - Essendon 7 vs. Brisbane 8
  • 100 to 199 games - Essendon 12 vs. Brisbane 6
  • 200+ games - Essendon 0 vs. Brisbane 1
Extra stats:
  • Average games played - Essendon 96.9 vs. Brisbane 95.9 (= +1 games on average)
  • Average age - Essendon 26 vs. Brisbane 25.7 (= +0.3 years on average)
  • Average height - Essendon 186.2cm vs. Brisbane 188.6cm (= -2.4cm on average)
  • Average weight - Essendon 87kg vs. Brisbane 90kg (= -3kg on average)
 

Nunez

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  • (0 to 10 games - Essendon 2 vs. Brisbane 0)
  • 0 to 24 games - Essendon 2 vs. Brisbane 1
  • 25 to 49 games - Essendon 1 vs. Brisbane 6
  • 50 to 99 games - Essendon 7 vs. Brisbane 8
  • 100 to 199 games - Essendon 12 vs. Brisbane 6
  • 200+ games - Essendon 0 vs. Brisbane 1
Extra stats:
  • Average games played - Essendon 96.9 vs. Brisbane 95.9 (= +1 games on average)
  • Average age - Essendon 26 vs. Brisbane 25.7 (= +0.3 years on average)
  • Average height - Essendon 186.2cm vs. Brisbane 188.6cm (= -2.4cm on average)
  • Average weight - Essendon 87kg vs. Brisbane 90kg (= -3kg on average)
Essendon will be hard to beat, but we've certainly beaten harder.
 

Jivlain

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Wouldn’t read too much into those averages.
Yeah it's an oddity. The numbers are from the club websites, but they're not necessarily up-to-date (has Kade Simpson's been updated this decade?), and they're not necessarily all done consistently (like if they weigh them the day after an intra-club practice match it'll be very different than just after they come back from their Christmas breaks). We do consistently tend to come out pretty high.

I find the distribution more interesting than the average personally.
 

jackess

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Aug 10, 2005
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Yeah it's an oddity. The numbers are from the club websites, but they're not necessarily up-to-date (has Kade Simpson's been updated this decade?), and they're not necessarily all done consistently (like if they weigh them the day after an intra-club practice match it'll be very different than just after they come back from their Christmas breaks). We do consistently tend to come out pretty high.

I find the distribution more interesting than the average personally.
Weights especially are a bit pointless. Players lose a lot of weight over the year but even heights our club wedsite seemed to exaggerate a few years.

Plus height or weight isn’t necessarily indicative of speed or marking about.
 

Dlions

Norm Smith Medallist
Aug 12, 2016
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With the new 6-6-6, Contested possessions and clearances are all important and we are well ahead in those 2 stats and the other one is goals kicked.
Three very important areas that will win us the game!
 

fanackapan

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Aug 4, 2008
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Its interesting that the average experience comes out so similar given that the Lions have a bunch more 25-49s and Essendon so many more 100+.

(Apologies for not posting stuff the last couple of rounds - work sending me all over the world at present)
 

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